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I think that Randy Orton is still one of the most entertaining wrestlers in WWE.
 

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So, what you're saying is that you don't really watch current WWE.

TBF doesn't this describe you as well?

I think the Orton hate has gotten extremely old. It started about the time Orton and Triple H had that awful WrestleMania 25 main event.

Since then Orton has gotten a lot better in the ring. In 2011 had some of the better matches of the year that didn't feature CM Punk.

This year alone Orton has many, many MOTYC with Daniel Bryan. Currently his return to Evolution has proven to be highly entertaining as well.
 
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This year alone Orton has many, many MOTYC with Daniel Bryan. Currently his return to Evolution has proven to be highly entertaining as well.


hence why they are MOTYC due to DB. Now not to knock Orton what I think bothers everyone is how Orton just seems to be a robot and continues to do the same things over and over with no expression what made him great as the Viper was how he wanted things and had emotion. He now is an emotionless android.



Now I do see how he has done well in the ring but there is no fire in his eyes he just seems to be there.

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hence why they are MOTYC due to DB. Now not to knock Orton what I think bothers everyone is how Orton just seems to be a robot and continues to do the same things over and over with no expression what made him great as the Viper was how he wanted things and had emotion. He now is an emotionless android.



Now I do see how he has done well in the ring but there is no fire in his eyes he just seems to be there.

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You can't have a MOTYC with yourself. DB isn't having them with Batista or Cena. Orton also has great matches many other superstars.

As for his gimmick, that's entirely what his gimmick is. Also, it's changed several times almost once a year actually.

The idea that Orton of all people is the one who does the same thing, is highly hilarious.

I think if anyone is going through the motions, it's the guy getting paid to promote his movie, Batista.
 

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You can't have a MOTYC with yourself. DB isn't having them with Batista or Cena. Orton also has great matches many other superstars.

As for his gimmick, that's entirely what his gimmick is. Also, it's changed several times almost once a year actually.

The idea that Orton of all people is the one who does the same thing, is highly hilarious.

I think if anyone is going through the motions, it's the guy getting paid to promote his movie, Batista.


The matches are so good because of DB. I know DB can't make a MOTYC on his own. I am also not say Orton sucks. I think Orton is decent but I do feel that he seems to be a bit robotic. I just wished he had some fire in his eyes again.

Batista just sucks.

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The matches are so good because of DB. I know DB can't make a MOTYC on his own. I am also not say Orton sucks. I think Orton is decent but I do feel that he seems to be a bit robotic. I just wished he had some fire in his eyes again.

Batista just sucks.

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I simply disagree with you. I'll once again point out he couldn't make great matches that those with Batista or Kane or whoever.

Orton had MOTYC matches in 2011, and it was definitely not Christian carrying him then, too. I would go so far as to say he was the worker of the year in 2011.

Orton is supposed to be robotic, that's his gimmick. He takes people apart with Ron Garvin stomps and takes them out with calculated precision.

He tried the emiotional good guy thing in 2012 and everyone hated on him for it and his matches suffered as well. At this point he'll be hated regardless.

Orton doesn't need to sway his detractors anymore, he'll just go onto have a WrestleMania main event that everyone loves.

He'll just know he entertained the fans even if they won't acknowledge it.
 

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TBF doesn't this describe you as well?

I think the Orton hate has gotten extremely old.
Pfft, so has the Cena hate but you're still on that train.

I watch the PPV's and a lot of the matches and, sorry to say, I think Orton isn't all that good. I don't think he sucks, but he's not "one of the most entertaining wrestlers in the WWE" either.
 

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Pfft, so has the Cena hate but you're still on that train.

I watch the PPV's and a lot of the matches and, sorry to say, I think Orton isn't all that good. I don't think he sucks, but he's not "one of the most entertaining wrestlers in the WWE" either.

I rarely mention John Cena anymore and even praised him on his match with Bray Wyatt. Even if I did Cena hasn't done one thing to change the things people hate about him since 2006.

I don't know what it would take to please you guys but I guess putting on continual great matches and having one of the best WrestleMania main events in history isn't enough.

For the record, I just noticed you said you didn't think he "sucks," which is good enough for me actually. I don't necessarily think he's one of the most "entertaining" either, but he always delivers in the ring in the big matches.
 

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I really enjoy Orton's promos and his gimmick as a whole.

Don't get me wrong, I much preferred Legend Killer Orton but I still think he is very entertaining, despite all of the hate he receives.
 

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For the record, I just noticed you said you didn't think he "sucks," which is good enough for me actually. I don't necessarily think he's one of the most "entertaining" either, but he always delivers in the ring in the big matches.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to hate on Orton as there's certainly been matches of his over the last few years that I've enjoyed quite a bit. Hell, his series with Christian in 2011 was fantastic and he was a huge part of making those matches great. That being said, he ranks behind many in terms of entertainment value, which is all I was really trying to get at.

Do I like Orton? Sure. I'd rather watch Bryan, Cena, Wyatt (and family of course), Triple H, Big Dave (seriously), Lesnar, Cesaro or any member of the Shield rather than him though. Honestly, I think I'd rather watch 3MB than Orton. :lol:



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Yeah, I wasn't trying to hate on Orton as there's certainly been matches of his over the last few years that I've enjoyed quite a bit. Hell, his series with Christian in 2011 was fantastic and he was a huge part of making those matches great. That being said, he ranks behind many in terms of entertainment value, which is all I was really trying to get at.

Do I like Orton? Sure. I'd rather watch Bryan, Cena, Wyatt (and family of course), Triple H, Big Dave (seriously), Lesnar, Cesaro or any member of the Shield rather than him though. Honestly, I think I'd rather watch 3MB than Orton. :lol:



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I second this. I was not saying he sucked at all. I just find him boring and would rather watch Eric Young than him that's all not Santino though.

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Tbh I would also rather watch Santino.
 

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No offense, guys, but I think you're crazy if you'd rather watch Santino, 3MB or Eric Young over Randy Orton. Especially Santino.

I've considered giving up WWE entirely over the amount of air time they used to give him. To each their own I guess.