Who should just retire?

[Kizza]

Do you ever maybe think that maybe the Undertaker is HAPPY doing what he loves to do? Or maybe the fact that the WWE needs someone of his caliber to be a top star considering there aren't very many. How dare you tell someone to stop doing what they love to do and stop earning a living. People that make comments like that make me sick. Get out of the scripted world of storylines in pro wrestling. He is doing what he loves to do, is surrounded by his friends and family (his girlfriend). Why would anyone ever want to retire if they had a job like that? He is there because he is the Undertaker, a hell of a worker. The WWE needs him more than ever and you are saying he should retire? He should walk away from his life?

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He would obviously do anything for Vince. He loves what he does, loves WWE, and this has been proven with his longevity. God.

 

[gatesoftanhauser]

I want him to retire as well, but I want his streak to stay intact (FUCK YOU CENA, we KNOW it's bound to happen), and him to go out on a high note. With that said, he should retire at Survivor Series (that way it's an even 20 year career) and he should obviously give a younger guy a big rub by putting him over. That'd be a good way to get Cody Rhodes, DiBiase, Dolph Ziggler or whoever over.

"I RETIRED The Undertaker! Something countless men could not do".

That'd be a great character trait, kind of how Randy Orton had the "Legend Killer" gimmick years ago.

 

[Mike Chaos]

OK I did not watch Smackdown where Taker got injured. But it sounds to me from what I read that Rey hit a senton onto Taker which injured his nose. How is that in any way evidence that he should retire? I personally am not a fan of Taker due to his stale character, but I admire him and respect him. I was a fan when he was in the Ministry of Darkness and when he was Big Evil. But for anyone to say someone should retire when they obviously are giving 100% is just garbage. He has so much he can still offer if he works a light schedule and his career can be extended. Much like HBK, Sting, even Kurt Angle. And whoever said that Taker being a gm is a good idea needs a slap in the head.

For the record I think this thread and topic was very much more about two groups of people debating about a wrestling related discussion rather than McFly.

 

[Kaedon]

He's not needed? Smackdown is....Rey Mysterio, CM Punk, Big Show, and a guy who has a lisp. Man I know THAT spells compelling TV. Taker is more over than all of them put together.

 

[...god...]

It's not about his wrestling skills. He still has everything that made him great. But age catches up to anyone. Go look back on his matches from 5 years ago. back then he could still use his alethicism in his matches. Now he's going purely by skill. It's just like any sportsman. As they get older, they must rely on their skills more. He can't do it week in week out either. Look at how long he took time off after Wrestlemania. Perhaps him, the company and his fans should just accept that his tenure is coming to an end and not wait till an injury forces him to retire. Let a minor injury serve as a wake up call.

You have no idea of what you're talking about even further. You ignored all the matches I listed and now are just resorting to even more lies. Yeah, a guy his size and his age scaling the top rope isn't athleticism*, tons of people do that. How long have you even been watching wrestling? 2 years? He's far better now than he ever was in the ring and if you really had some basis on this matter you, like most of the IWC, would know this is common knowledge to all of us. He displays much more athleticism NOW than he did 10 fucking years ago, if you have even seen any of his matches.

And dude, it's just a discussion. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

caps lock =/= anger. And the fact that you continously post asinine things, like you just proved once again in this current post.

 

[phantomgerald]

You have no idea of what you're talking about even further. You ignored all the matches I listed and now are just resorting to even more lies. Yeah, a guy his size and his age scaling the top rope isn't athleticism*, tons of people do that. How long have you even been watching wrestling? 2 years? He's far better now than he ever was in the ring and if you really had some basis on this matter you, like most of the IWC, would know this is common knowledge to all of us. He displays much more athleticism NOW than he did 10 fucking years ago, if you have even seen any of his matches.

caps lock =/= anger. And the fact that you continously post asinine things, like you just proved once again in this current post.

No what I pointed out was that I wasn't doubting he can still wrestle at his best, but that he no longer can do it at such a consistent rate as he could in the past. You seirously think he displays more athleticism now than say 5 years ago? Look at how he moves in the past. He's the one pushing the pace but now he lets the other guy do the dirty work.

No caps lock does not equal. But calling a person names just for expressing his opinion is rather immature, especially when you're on a forum to DISCUSS wrestling. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you doesn't mean the other person has the wrong opinion.

And this is to all who argue that he does it because he loves it. Yes, so does all aging sportsmen. Their love for the game may never die out, but their ability to continue to excel at the highest level will dissipate. Undertaker should leave now before damaging his legacy.

 

[Mike Chaos]

When people express their opinions and those opinions are not backed up with facts it is fair to assume that person's intelligence will be questioned.

 

[Chuck Taylor's Grenade]

So by the blueberry's logic everybody 40 and above should retire? Ok so from WWE we'd lose

Undertaker
Triple H
Goldust
William Regal
Chris Jericho (turns 40 in November)
Kane

People should realize by now that age doesn't matter in professional wrestling. Just look at how many wrestlers in their 40s and 50s are still wrestling on the independent circuit. The WWE needs a wrestler like Undertaker not just because he's a massive draw but because he provides locker room leadership and guidance to the younger wrestlers. Should he retire soon? Yes but only for his health's sake and not because some dipshit on a message board thinks he should.

 

[21403]

So by the blueberry's logic everybody 40 and above should retire? Ok so from WWE we'd lose

Undertaker
Triple H
Goldust
William Regal
Chris Jericho (turns 40 in November)
Kane

People should realize by now that age doesn't matter in professional wrestling. Just look at how many wrestlers in their 40s and 50s are still wrestling on the independent circuit. The WWE needs a wrestler like Undertaker not just because he's a massive draw but because he provides locker room leadership and guidance to the younger wrestlers. Should he retire soon? Yes but only for his health's sake and not because some dipshit on a message board thinks he should.

I like how everyone bashes me yet they couldn't keep an open mind about my point. Try to respect one's opinion kay? Oh you can't so you call me a blueberry. Go back to middle school because apparently these are some of the people Iam talking to.


The Undertaker has done nothing lately but put HIMSELF OVER. He put himself over the younger World Champ Jack Swagger. Swagger could of benefited from going over Taker. He's put himself over Mysterio to go on to the Fatal 4 way for the title. Something that he doesn't need to do. If he is such a role model he would know that he is hogging up air time that could be used to give someone like Cody Rhodes some promo time to build his character. The reason he is such a good worker is because he takes so much time off to heal where as someone like Jericho doesn't take months off. The reason so many old wrestlers are wrestling on the indy circuit is because guess what, WRESTLING IS ALL THEY HAVE KNOWN AND THEY NEED MONEY. AND THEY ALSO DIDN'T MANAGE THEIR MONEY RIGHT WHILE THEY WERE WRESTLING. Undertaker is financially stable and has a job after wrestling so he doesn't need to stay.

Let me spell this out for the slow ones:


I-T-S M-Y O-P-I-N-I-O-N. Learn how to respect it instead of acting like jackasses.

 

[Mat Awesome]

Basically, what you are saying is that anyone who has it made in WWE should give it up for somebody who the fans are just getting to know. Let's say WWE calls up Joe Henning from FCW and he is a mystery Money in the Bank participant who wins the briefcase. He goes over Cena in a suprise cash in. You expect to have Henning defeat people like Cena, Edge, Orton, and Taker in that short time he's been noticable? No! What if he gets badly injured after he goes over a superstar? That makes the fans forget him and it punctures the established superstar's legacy. That is just one up and coming guy. What if afterwards they put the Title on Ziggler. Ziggler pins Cena cleanly. Ziggler gets fired for some reason. You are basically telling main eventers to become jobbers. You wanted me to reply, I did, and now you look Blue.

 

[21403]

Basically, what you are saying is that anyone who has it made in WWE should give it up for somebody who the fans are just getting to know.

Read. I thought I was talking about the Undertaker here, not "anyone who has made it in WWE". And yes, he's at a point now where he needs to retire and give the young guys airtime.

Let's say WWE calls up Joe Henning from FCW and he is a mystery Money in the Bank participant who wins the briefcase. He goes over Cena in a suprise cash in. You expect to have Henning defeat people like Cena, Edge, Orton, and Taker in that short time he's been noticable? No! What if he gets badly injured after he goes over a superstar? That makes the fans forget him and it punctures the established superstar's legacy. That is just one up and coming guy. What if afterwards they put the Title on Ziggler. Ziggler pins Cena cleanly. Ziggler gets fired for some reason. You are basically telling main eventers to become jobbers. You wanted me to reply, I did, and now you look Blue.

Now this is just plain idiotic right here. First of all again, Iam talking about THE UNDERTAKER. NOT JOHN CENA. NOT EDGE. NOT RANDY ORTON. Im talking about Undertaker retiring and giving air time, not a young star getting injured. If the Undertaker actually gives Joe Henning some air time then maybe fans wouldn't forget him if he does get badly injured. And how would that hurt the superstars legacy if they could even make a angle out of the injury, resulting in the young guy getting his payback in the long run when he comes back from the injury? God. Your lowly attempt to make me look Blue has failed. Try again.

 

[Lady Redfield]

lmao, give the young guys airtime? The young guys get quite a bit of fucking airtime.

How about you try and actually watch wrestling. If you did, you'd know guys like Swagger, Sheamus, Ted, etc. are appearing on TV quite a bit. The Undertaker usually shows up for a few minutes and fucks off, for the most part. He still wrestles when needed but it's not like he is stealing any time away from anyone. When you're that respected, you can't steal time, you've earned every second of it.

 

[21403]

lmao, give the young guys airtime? The young guys get quite a bit of fucking airtime.

Uh, 7 minute matches on Superstars with guys like Goldust doesn't necessarily count as getting airtime.

How about you try and actually watch wrestling. If you did, you'd know guys like Swagger, Sheamus, Ted, etc. are appearing on TV quite a bit. The Undertaker usually shows up for a few minutes and fucks off, for the most part. He still wrestles when needed but it's not like he is stealing any time away from anyone. When you're that respected, you can't steal time, you've earned every second of it.

The reason they are where they are at right now is not only because of their talent which other wrestlers get overlooked, but they also have somebody pulling for them backstage. Sheamus has HHH pulling for him. Ted has his dad pulling for him. Jack has Jim Ross pulling for him. When you think you need to put yourself over the young guys because you think you need to feel relevant when you were relevant the last 20 years, the WWE doesn't need you.

 

[Lady Redfield]

YEAH MAN, THE GUYS I MENTIONED ARE TOTALLY ON SUPERSTARS.

 

[21403]

And guys like Cody Rhodes, Primo, Yoshi Tatsu, JTG, Chris Masters, guys who actually have talent aren't Superstars mainstays. My bad.