Guys, lay off the dude man. Stop having a pre conceived notion that what he says is stupid before you even read it. I actually agree with him. He should retire, not entirely because of this injury of course, but this should serve as a wake up call. His body is worn down by the years of work he has put in. I'm sure the WWE will keep him if he wants to work as a GM or a backstage role, but as far as wrestling goes, I no longer want to see him wrestle. His matches for the past 2 years have been good, but they only last 10 minutes at most! He can't go like he used to anymore, he's more succeptible to injury. It happens to the greatest of any sport when age catches up to them. They might still have the skill, but the body just doesn't let you do what you used to do anymore.
Undertaker has lasted on many matches longer than 10-15 minutes in the past 2 years... besides, find me more than Cena, Hunter, Batista, Orton, Edge... who go over that time limit anyways. Longer matches more often spell doom for ANYONE. You don't know his body is worn down. That's like saying Brett Favre's body is worn down... but he still performs at a level worthy of getting 1 step away from the Super Bowl, but I guess we should be pissed that he's stealing time off of Tavaris Jackson, right?
Uh.. the point is, YOU DON'T KNOW HIS BODY IS WORN DOWN. All of you idiots read news reports and pass it off as fact. I've made this observeration (using my brain, imagine that) countless fucking times, the most notable of which was at the MSG Raw where there was reports everywhere of how Undertaker is severely injured and can't wrestle so would be dropping the title soon. Yet in the match, he's running perfectly fine and moving perfectly fine, I swear some of the internet fans, like nou said, are brain dead. Nou basically covered everything, but the fact is that there has been absolutely NO INSTANCES (EVER) where Undertaker has shown that he is injured, worn down, or can't work a match. 10 minutes? His match with Rey? The EC? SHAWN MICHAELS? Those went 10 minutes? You're Blue. Even the one with Swagger recently went over that mark and the countless tag matches he had while he was champion. Undertaker is fine, and in one of the only interviews he did he stated that if he really can't go anymore, he'll step away, which was a very nice notion to know. He said that if anyone he works with questioned his ability to go that he'd definitely retire. On that note, this whole report is probably bullshit as well. He barely took any impact. If diving out to the ring and landing on his neck barely phased him, I doubt some shitty senton from a 120 pound boyish man will hurt him. Undertaker is fine.
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C'mon man. Favre might be the exception but most times, this guys just don't know that their time is up. Just ask Terrell Owens. Of course, his contribution to one company should mean that he gets a job for life, but maybe it's time someone tell him it's over.
It's not about his wrestling skills. He still has everything that made him great. But age catches up to anyone. Go look back on his matches from 5 years ago. back then he could still use his alethicism in his matches. Now he's going purely by skill. It's just like any sportsman. As they get older, they must rely on their skills more. He can't do it week in week out either. Look at how long he took time off after Wrestlemania. Perhaps him, the company and his fans should just accept that his tenure is coming to an end and not wait till an injury forces him to retire. Let a minor injury serve as a wake up call.
And dude, it's just a discussion. No need to get your panties in a bunch.
I want to see him wrestle at 100% where if they make him wrestle weekly for 20 minutes and is able to. I don't want to see a match where I can tell that it's shortened because he doesn't have it in him to carry off a long match anymore
TO? One down season... in BUFFALO? Be forreal dude. TO can still go, and he will go.
His athleticism is being questioned? Undertaker hits OVER THE TOP ROPE suicide dives still. He still gets over the top rope on the vintage legdrop! He's still keeping up with a REY MYSTERIO! Again, NOBODY is going to wrestle 20 minutes a week, for even 4 weeks, and come out of it alright. It's too much to ask out of anyone... athletes in other physical sports who do that tend to get 6-7 months off of the hardcore shit.
OK I did not watch Smackdown where Taker got injured. But it sounds to me from what I read that Rey hit a senton onto Taker which injured his nose. How is that in any way evidence that he should retire? I personally am not a fan of Taker due to his stale character, but I admire him and respect him. I was a fan when he was in the Ministry of Darkness and when he was Big Evil. But for anyone to say someone should retire when they obviously are giving 100% is just garbage. He has so much he can still offer if he works a light schedule and his career can be extended. Much like HBK, Sting, even Kurt Angle. And whoever said that Taker being a gm is a good idea needs a slap in the head.
For the record I think this thread and topic was very much more about two groups of people debating about a wrestling related discussion rather than McFly.
I'll assume you've since seen the match... he finished it off, and according to reports, he finished it the way it was scripted to finish. He was woozy as fuck with his concussion, and blinded by his tears, and was still able to finish the match off. It wasn't brilliant, was a bit sloppy, but I don't think you can ask for much more than that. The heart inside of the deadman (lolironicpun) far outweighs any "loss" his athleticism has taken over the years.
No what I pointed out was that I wasn't doubting he can still wrestle at his best, but that he no longer can do it at such a consistent rate as he could in the past. You seirously think he displays more athleticism now than say 5 years ago? Look at how he moves in the past. He's the one pushing the pace but now he lets the other guy do the dirty work.
No caps lock does not equal. But calling a person names just for expressing his opinion is rather immature, especially when you're on a forum to DISCUSS wrestling. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you doesn't mean the other person has the wrong opinion.
And this is to all who argue that he does it because he loves it. Yes, so does all aging sportsmen. Their love for the game may never die out, but their ability to continue to excel at the highest level will dissipate. Undertaker should leave now before damaging his legacy.
How has his ability to continue to excel dissipated? Undertaker still outperforms everyone. Shit, look at Kane, who hasn't gone through 1/8th of what Taker has over the last 10 years... and look at how sluggish and lame Kane is in the ring. Taker is still agile enough to walk a tightrope and perform oldschool on a (rumored) bum hip/knee(s). The guy still has it.
I like how everyone bashes me yet they couldn't keep an open mind about my point. Try to respect one's opinion kay? Oh you can't so you call me a blueberry. Go back to middle school because apparently these are some of the people Iam talking to.
The Undertaker has done nothing lately but put HIMSELF OVER. He put himself over the younger World Champ Jack Swagger. Swagger could of benefited from going over Taker. He's put himself over Mysterio to go on to the Fatal 4 way for the title. Something that he doesn't need to do. If he is such a role model he would know that he is hogging up air time that could be used to give someone like Cody Rhodes some promo time to build his character. The reason he is such a good worker is because he takes so much time off to heal where as someone like Jericho doesn't take months off. The reason so many old wrestlers are wrestling on the indy circuit is because guess what, WRESTLING IS ALL THEY HAVE KNOWN AND THEY NEED MONEY. AND THEY ALSO DIDN'T MANAGE THEIR MONEY RIGHT WHILE THEY WERE WRESTLING. Undertaker is financially stable and has a job after wrestling so he doesn't need to stay.
Swagger benefited from losing to Taker. Swagger lost to Cena in what most people thought was his most incredible performance. Believe it or not, you can lose gracefully to someone like the Undertaker. If you can stand in the ring with someone you probably idolized growing up, who has taken on the best of the best every year... and actually look good losing, you're going to get some props from McMahon. If Taker respects you as an opponent, the WWE loves you as an employee.
Taker doesn't need to retire because of a freak accident. Shit, Triple H needs to retire because Stephanie has to be backstage and Linda can't watch her grandbabies anymore so someone has to take time off on this 3-6 month vacation he's supposedly on while he heals from more injuries. Rey Mysterio doesn't need the vacation he had to be called back from because of Undertaker's injury! If he needed it to heal up and take some time off... he's in the same category as Taker and needs to go. Rey doesn't perform at the same elite level he did even during his championship run... he's a bit slower, doesn't perform as many pure hurricanrana's or head scissors or any of the other luchador shit he used to do. John Cena relies on power and not any of the athleticism he used to rely on... he's been injured a bit and taken some time off... he's on his way out the door too if Taker retires, miryte? Edge, well, he's supposedly already talking about his retirement in 2 years... he doesn't do spinning wheel kicks and suicide dives anymore.
Come on now!
