Who should just retire?

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if it hurt his character or drawing power, I'd buy your theory, but nether is affected, so you're wrong.
 

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The Undertaker is not needed. He's not needed in the World Title hunt. He's not needed on Smackdown. He's not needed in the WWE. He needs to retire.

He is doing what he loves to do, is surrounded by his friends and family (his girlfriend).
If he loves what he is doing, then why would he himself talk about retiring for some time now? He knows it, I know it, and people should know that he is going to retire soon.

Why would anyone ever want to retire if they had a job like that?
Because he is a pro wrestler, a job which requires you to take serious bumps, take a steel chair and other various weapons, travel away from home most of the year, etc. Not an easy job imo.


He is there because he is the Undertaker, a hell of a worker.
Yes, because his constant vacations tells me he is one hell of a worker.


The WWE needs him more than ever and you are saying he should retire? He should walk away from his life?
The WWE does not need him more than ever. He needs to stay out of the title hunt because he has no business there. Look at it this way, if the Undertaker retires, another young star gets a chance on Smackdown.
 
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It's kind of nice seeing The Undertaker only once in awhile. That makes it special when he actually performs. I think he's earned the right to retire when he feels like it.

I don't think anybody in the WWE should necessarily retire right now if they can still do what they are doing.
 

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Undertaker needs to call it a day. Shawn Michaels has already retired and he was in way better shape and an all around better performer than Undertaker. WWE made the decision to bring back Undertaker knowing he wasn't 100% and this is what they get. Undertaker had 3 separate injuries in his first match back full time. Now I get they aren't major injuries, but still he is going to miss time.

Plus with HBK gone Undertaker look even older. With HBK there it sort of leveled the playing field in terms of veterans but now Taker really stands alone here. Don't even compare HHH and Jericho to Taker if that's what you're thinking.
 

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In my opinion, i feel it comes down to is he helping or hurting the product. I've been thinking about this for a while, and i'm leaning towards the direction that he is not helping the SD product. Partly WWE's fault, partly taker himself. He's part-time and the WWE likes to involve him in the same angles with different opponents every fued. The WWE wants to keep him at his main event spot, however I don't feel like his part time status, he should be involved with the title and main storyline of the show. More so, fueding with young guys, helping them establish their characters, and getting over. Like McFly said, what else is left for him to do in the WWE. After a 20+ year career in the WWE, not really sure why he would wrestle other than the love for the business and the money. In the WWE eyes, they see him as a great asset, and i agree with that as well. He is a BIG draw. I don't want Taker to retire, however it may be time to go into semi-retirement and come out for a 2-3 month fued per year.
 
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When it comes to have part-time feuds, I think a main problem is that on Smackdown (with the exception of CM Punk) there just aren't any really good heels right now. Nobody a person would look at and say "Wow, this guy's a great wrestler, but man do I hate him?!"

Maybe a move to Raw would be better...
 

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Rumor is SD is looking to turn Koffi, or MVP heel. Certainly the roster isn't that great, but moving to Raw to fued with guys Taker has already fueded with is useless.

I wouldn't mind a Undertaker vs. Drew McIntyre fued on SD. It's something fresh. It will give Drew a sporting chance for a credible fued. They could go with a storyline of Vince wants taker out of the wwe, and Drew wants to make his name at the Undertaker's expense. It will continue the Teddy Long / Vince Mcmahon angle too.
 

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Taker shouldn't retire until Wrestlemania where he passes the torch to a young star and ends his streak. As for the injury, its yet another on the long list of injuries WWE has been dealing with lately. This is also the second consecutive time Rey Mysterio has busted Taker open in a match, he needs to relax and not be so stiff
 

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The Undertaker is not needed. He's not needed in the World Title hunt. He's not needed on Smackdown. He's not needed in the WWE. He needs to retire.

If he loves what he is doing, then why would he himself talk about retiring for some time now? He knows it, I know it, and people should know that he is going to retire soon.

Because he is a pro wrestler, a job which requires you to take serious bumps, take a steel chair and other various weapons, travel away from home most of the year, etc. Not an easy job imo.


Yes, because his constant vacations tells me he is one hell of a worker.


The WWE does not need him more than ever. He needs to stay out of the title hunt because he has no business there. Look at it this way, if the Undertaker retires, another young star gets a chance on Smackdown.

I hate to break this to you, but Undertaker IS needed. He draws people to the shows, period. People show up to see Taker, he is an attraction & doesn't need a belt to have big matches or draw money. The man has put on great matches when limping & having hip pain, which is some of the worst pain you can have. Undertaker has earned his spot in the company 10 times over, he has been popular his entire career (face or heel) & has constantly sold merch, name another current WWE talent that has done that.

If he loves what he is doing, then why would he himself talk about retiring for some time now? He knows it, I know it, and people should know that he is going to retire soon.

How do you know he has been talking about retirement? Undertaker doesn't do interviews & that information is just hearsay from wrestling sites that aren't reputable. The man is older & the older you get, the longer it takes to heal up from injuries. He can take time off to rest when he wants to, he has done enough to deserve that respect.

Look at it this way, if the Undertaker retires, another young star gets a chance on Smackdown.

No, they would not. There would be a giant hole left in the roster by Undertaker leaving & some younger talent would never be able to fill that because they aren't in the same league as him in the minds of the public. Undertaker has a role, he is the last legend on the roster & he will put over young talent if he sees something in them.
 

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^ Agreed 200000000%, Undertaker is more than needed at this point especially with WWE's shitty roster after losing Batista and Shawn Michaels
 

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The man has put on great matches when limping & having hip pain, which is some of the worst pain you can have. Undertaker has earned his spot in the company 10 times over, he has been popular his entire career (face or heel) & has constantly sold merch, name another current WWE talent that has done that.
Which is why he needs to retire. Having hip pain isn't going to go away when you are doing the thing that aggrivates it. Sure I can name a person, John Cena.


How do you know he has been talking about retirement? Undertaker doesn't do interviews & that information is just hearsay from wrestling sites that aren't reputable. The man is older & the older you get, the longer it takes to heal up from injuries. He can take time off to rest when he wants to, he has done enough to deserve that respect.
Ive heard he was supposed to retire last year. The point is, he should retire soon because he's wheelchair bound if he keeps going.


No, they would not. There would be a giant hole left in the roster by Undertaker leaving & some younger talent would never be able to fill that because they aren't in the same league as him in the minds of the public.
Tell that to some of the SD talent and FCW talent who are younger, won't take months off, who are fucking hungry to get a chance to show that I'am the future of this company but old asses like the Undertaker are preventing me from doing that.
 

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You seriously are brain dead. Obviously the guy isn't doing it for the money, if that were the case we would have retired a long time ago. If you actually did a little research you'd know that the guy also runs a massive real estate firm, yet another reason why he isn't active a good deal of the year. He is literally the only legend left on the roster at this point and by far the company's single biggest draw... yes even more so than Cena. A win over Taker means more than a win over anyone else on the roster. A loss TO Taker by the same effect means absolutely nothing. There is not a single person on a the roster that could take a pin fall to Taker and suffer anything from it... it's simply expected at this point.
Undertaker is nothing more than the last novelty of a dead age of wrestling that WWE wisely holds on to. He's the only outlandish and "supernatural" character left on the roster and signifies to most people an age that seems lost to older fans. For that reason he's the most universally liked talent on the roster by fans of all ages. The guy works barely 3 months out of the year and yet you still find need to tell him he should retire because he broke his nose at no fault to himself. He's wrestled through more pain than probably anyone else on the roster and never makes a single complaint about it or allows it to affect his performance in any way.
 

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So is this guaranteed that Rey will be in the title match now? If so I am kinda relieved, I know Undertaker draws and is a massive fan favourite but I couldn't stand seeing him taking the place of Rey who is deserving of a push. Rey being left out of the match didn't even make sense, Rey gets a momentous win over Punk but Rey is left out of the next PPV and Punk is in a title match.

Undertaker definately seems to be on his last legs as a wrestler, he is getting very injury prone and is loosing his shine as a performer. As long as Taker is in the WWE he will make them some good money but it may be in his best intrests as a human being to hang up his boots and call it a day. If Taker continues to wrestle a bad hip or back could progress into a serious condition that could affect his walking or ability to move.
 

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I'm beating a dead horse. Nice insult. You really are a great admin for this forum

Obviously the guy isn't doing it for the money, if that were the case we would have retired a long time ago. If you actually did a little research you'd know that the guy also runs a massive real estate firm, yet another reason why he isn't active a good deal of the year.
So why doesn't he retire and stick to his real estate firm, than to take up useless air time on Smackdown which could of made a new star?

There is not a single person on a the roster that could take a pin fall to Taker and suffer anything from it... it's simply expected at this point.
So what's the use of him giving himself a rub over the young guys in the first place?

Undertaker is nothing more than the last novelty of a dead age of wrestling that WWE wisely holds on to. He's the only outlandish and "supernatural" character left on the roster and signifies to most people an age that seems lost to older fans
Which is why he needs to go. Cartoon gimmicks died a long time ago.

The guy works barely 3 months out of the year and yet you still find need to tell him he should retire because he broke his nose at no fault to himself. He's wrestled through more pain than probably anyone else on the roster and never makes a single complaint about it or allows it to affect his performance in any way.
THATS BECAUSE HE TAKES TIME OFF WHENEVER HE WANTS TO!!!