If X were a Title: tracking the lineage of some strange stipulations

[Hoss]

Alright do my WCW Commissionership question next.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

I’m sad because Brie was Free at one point. Damn.

 

[Chris]

I’m sad because Brie was Free at one point. Damn.

She shouldn't have lost

 

[Leon TrotSky]

Thanks @Mr. Peanutbutter for this one:
Who is the rightful WCW Commissioner?

Spoiler: Who holds the commissionership?

2000-01-16 Kevin Nash - beats Terry Funk in a Hardcore match at WCW Souled Out, taking the position of WCW Commissioner from him
2000-01-24 Sid Vicious - beats Nash on WCW Monday Nitro
2000-02-14 Jeff Jarrett - beats Sid on WCW Monday Nitro
2000-02-20 Sid Vicious (2) - beats Jarrett and Scott Hall in a Triple Threat match at WCW SuperBrawl 2000
[2000-02-28 Sid beats Tank Abbott for his leather jacket, and you know what that means...]
2011-01-31 Edge (7) - beats Miz on WWE Raw

Edge now has control of one company and commissions the other. So he's basically this thread's equivalent of 2001 Vince.

Can this man ever be stopped?!

 

[Chris]

I guess everything's just coming up Edge.

 

[Hoss]

Well I have an issue with this because Mike Sanders, Ernest Miller and Lance Storm passed around the Commissionership after Nash had already lost it. In all honestly, I was hoping to see the lineage from the last WCW Commissioner who I think was Storm.

 

[Chris]

Yeah I support this, can you do it from the last time WCW had the commisionership up for grabs in a match Sky? Just to see if someone other than Edge gets it

 

[Leon TrotSky]

Okay, then.
Who is the rightful Commissioner of WCW, if you ignore all but the last match contended for the commissionership in WCW?

Spoiler: Who holds the commissionership*?

2001-02-18 Ernest Miller - beats Lance Storm at WCW SuperBrawl Revenge, snatching the title of commissioner from him.
2001-02-19 Buff Bagwell - beats Cat on WCW Monday Nitro
2001-03-12 Sean O'Haire - beats Buff, Lex Luger, and Chuck Palumbo in a Four Corners Elimination match on WCW Thunder
2001-05-30 Samoa Joe - beats O'Haire at UPW Power Play
2001-06-16 Michael Modest - beats Joe at NAW Summer Inferno
2001-06-23 Bruce Hart - beats Modest at a Stampede live event
2003-06-20 Duke Durrango - beats Hart at a Stampede live event
2003-07-26 Kirk Melnick - beats Durrango at a Stampede live event
2003-08-07 Duke Durrango (2) - beats Melnick at a Stampede live event
2004-05-07 Greg Pawluk - beats Durrango at a Stampede live event
2004-05-28 Duke Durrango (3) - beats Pawluk at a Stampede live event
2004-08-13 TJ Wilson - beats Durrango at Stampede King of the Mat
2004-11-20 Harry Smith - beats Wilson at a Stampede live event
2005-05-31 George King - beats Smith on WWE SmackDown (dark)

So, if we choose to ignore the times Kevin Nash actually lost the commissionership, it ends on a dark match where the winner retired after.

I hope you're happy

 

[Hidden Blaze]

I’m personally sad, because I liked Edge having everything.

 

[Leon TrotSky]

Hey, remember the Hulk Hogan WWE Hall of Fame ring? That wasn't the only ring Abyss gained in 2010. But tracking it from Abyss' win would be boring, as he loses it to AJ Styles on the next Impact who loses it to RVD on the next Impact after that, and Hogan's ring is unified with Flair's, and it ends up with Strong Man. So let's take a different approach. Abyss handed his ring to Jay Lethal before the next Impact, who handed it back to Flair. Let's see what happens now that Flair's got it back:
Who holds Ric Flair's first WWE Hall of Fame ring?

Spoiler: Who holds the ring?

2010-05-03 Ric Flair - gets his ring back on TNA Impact. Yeah.
2010-07-11 Jay Lethal - beats Flair at TNA Victory Road
2010-07-12 Jeff Hardy - beats Lethal on TNA Impact
2010-10-28 Matt Morgan - beats Hardy at a TNA live event
2010-11-07 Jeff Hardy (2) - beats Morgan at TNA Turning Point
2011-01-09 Mr. Anderson - beats Hardy at TNA Genesis
2011-02-13 Jeff Hardy (3) - beats Anderson at TNA Against All Odds
2011-02-24 Sting - beats Hardy on TNA Impact
2011-03-28 Rob Van Dam - beats Sting on TNA Impact
2011-04-07 Sting (2) - beats RVD and Anderson in a Three-Way Steel Cage match at TNA Lockdown
2011-06-12 Mr. Anderson (2) - beats Sting at TNA Slammiversary IX
2011-06-13 Gunner - beats Anderson on TNA Impact Wrestling
2011-06-23 Crimson - beats Gunner at a TNA live event
2012-06-10 James Storm - beats Crimson at TNA Slammiversary X
2012-07-05 Jeff Hardy (4) - beats Storm on TNA Impact
2012-07-21 AJ Styles - beats Hardy at a TNA live event
2012-08-09 Kurt Angle - beats Styles on TNA Impact Wrestling
2012-08-12 AJ Styles (2) - beats Angle, Samoa Joe, and Christopher Daniels in a Ladder match at TNA Hardcore Justice
2012-08-22 Bully Ray - beats Styles on TNA Xplosion
2012-08-23 Mr. Anderson (3) - beats Ray on TNA Impact Wrestling
2012-09-06 Kurt Angle (2) - beats Anderson at a TNA live event
2012-09-27 Christopher Daniels - beats Angle and Chavo Guerrero in a Three-Way match on TNA Impact Wrestling
2012-10-05 Kurt Angle (3) - beats Daniels at a TNA live event
2012-10-25 Jeff Hardy (5) - beats Angle on TNA Impact Wrestling
2013-03-10 Bully Ray (2) - beats Hardy in a Steel Cage match at TNA Lockdown
2013-07-18 Chris Sabin - beats Ray on TNA Impact Wrestling
2013-08-15 Bully Ray (3) - beats Sabin in a Steel Cage match on TNA Impact Wrestling
2013-08-29 Sting (3) - beats Ray in a No Disqualification match on TNA Impact Wrestling
2013-10-20 Magnus - beats Sting at TNA Bound For Glory
2014-04-10 Eric Young - beats Magnus on TNA Impact Wrestling
2014-05-07 Bobby Lashley - beats Young on TNA Impact Wresting
2014-05-31 Samoa Joe - beats Lashley at a TNA live event
2014-06-06 Bobby Lashley (2) - beats Joe at a TNA live event
2014-06-08 Samoa Joe (2) - beats Lashley at a TNA live event
2014-06-15 Bobby Lashley (3) - beats Joe at TNA Slammiversary XII
2014-09-18 Bobby Roode - beats Lashley on TNA Impact Wrestling
2015-01-07 Bobby Lashley (4) - beats Roode on TNA Impact Wrestling
2015-01-31 Kurt Angle (4) - beats Lashley on TNA Impact Wrestling
2015-03-16 Eric Young (2) - beats Angle in a Stretcher match on TNA Impact Wrestling
2015-05-08 Kurt Angle (5) - beats Young on TNA Impact Wrestling
2015-06-25 Ethan Carter III - beats Angle on TNA Impact Wrestling
2015-10-04 Matt Hardy - beats EC3 and Drew Galloway in a Three-Way match at TNA Bound For Glory
2015-11-13 Rey Mysterio - beats Hardy at NEW 20th Anniversary Show
2015-12-12 Matanza Cueto (Jeff Cobb) - beats Mysterio and 19 others in an Aztec Warfare match on Lucha Underground
2016-01-23 Tyson Dux - beats Cobb at PGP Ryan Buckley Memorial Tournament
2016-01-30 Psycho Mike Rollins - beats Dux at FPW Revelations
2016-03-20 Franky the Mobster - beats Rollins at SMASH Any Given Sunday 4
2016-04-09 Ivan Sullivan - beats FTM at NSPW All-Stars
2016-10-08 Matt Angel - beats Sullivan and Brad Alekxis in a Three-Way match at NSPW 8th Anniversary Show
2016-10-23 Oliver Strange - beats Matt Angel at BATTLEWAR 38
2016-11-13 Travis Toxic - beats Strange at BATTLEWAR 39
2016-11-13 Mike Gibson - beats Toxic and Mitch Thompson in a Three-Way Elimination match at BATTLEWAR 39

I had hope for it returning to Impact given that it's stuck in the Canadian indies. But Mike Gibson seems to have disappeared after winning the BATTLEWAR title. So, this is where it ends.

I learned two things:
- TNA World Champs didn't lose much
- Crimson's unbeaten streak really was legit

 

[Leon TrotSky]

From the Royal Rumble 2002 rewatch:
Who is rightfully "The Man"?

Spoiler: Who holds The Man?

1989-05-07 Ric Flair - first declares "To be the Man, you gotta beat the Man" at NWA/WCW WrestleWar
[oh wait, Ric Flair won the services of Baby Doll that night by beating Ricky Steamboat, which means...]
2020-01-19 Zac Taylor - beats Zayne, ACH, and Chandler Hopkins in a Four Corners match at Inspire Pro New Ecstasy of Gold

This is the shortest one yet.

 

[Leon TrotSky]

Again from the Royal Rumble 2002 rewatch (and spoilers for the 2002 watch along series):
Who owns Ric Flair's 50% of WWE?

Spoiler: Who owns Flair's 50%?

2002-06-10 Vince McMahon - beats Ric Flair on WWE Raw to regain the other half of his company
2003-03-30 Hulk Hogan - beats Vince in a Street Fight at WWE WrestleMania XIX
2011-10-16 Sting - beats Hogan at TNA Bound For Glory
2012-03-18 Bobby Roode - beats Sting in a No Holds Barred match at TNA Victory Road
2012-04-02 Mr. Anderson - beats Roode on TNA Impact Wrestling
2012-04-17 Rob Van Dam - beats Anderson and Jeff Hardy in a Three-Way match on TNA Impact Wrestling
2012-04-26 Bobby Roode (2) - beats RVD at a TNA live event
2012-05-01 Rob Van Dam (2) - beats Roode, Anderson, and Jeff Hardy in a Four-Way match on TNA Impact Wrestling
2012-05-13 Bobby Roode (3) - beats RVD in a Ladder match at TNA Sacrifice
2012-05-31 Sting (2) - beats Roode in a Lumberjack match on TNA Impact Wrestling
2012-06-10 Bobby Roode (4) - beats Sting at TNA Slammiversary X
2012-07-06 Austin Aries - beats Roode at a TNA live event
2012-09-20 Bully Ray - beats Aries on TNA Impact Wrestling
2012-10-26 Kurt Angle - beats Ray at a TNA live event
2012-10-27 Bully Ray (2) - beats Angle at a TNA live event
2012-12-09 Austin Aries (2) - beats Ray at TNA Final Resolution
2012-12-11 Jeff Hardy - beats Aries on TNA Impact Wrestling
[oh hey, Hardy was the holder of Ric Flair's HoF ring at the time, so...]
2016-11-13 Mike Gibson - beats Toxic and Mitch Thompson in a Three-Way Elimination match at BATTLEWAR 39

This Canadian indy nobody really has taken everything from Flair... of course, Edge is the sole owner of WWE technically, so what does it matter?

 

[Hidden Blaze]

WWE belongs to Canada no matter what

 

[Leon TrotSky]

Remember when Test won immunity from being fired? What if that was a title?
Who has immunity from being fired from WWE?

Spoiler: Who holds immunity?

2001-11-18 Test - wins a Battle Royal at WWF Survivor Series to win immunity from being fired for a year
2001-12-02 Rob Van Dam - beats Test in a Hardcore match at a WWF live event
2001-12-09 The Undertaker - beats RVD in a Hardcore match at WWF Vengeance
2002-02-05 Maven - beats Taker in a Hardcore match on WWF SmackDown
2002-03-05 Dean Baldwin (Shark Boy) - beats Maven and Matt Striker in a Three-Way match at an HWA live event
2002-04-10 Shannon Moore - beats Baldwin, Matt Striker, and Jamie Noble in a Four-Way match at an HWA live event
2002-05-08 BJ Whitmer - beats Moore, Jamie Noble, and Matt Striker in a Four-Way Elimination match at an HWA live event
2002-06-11 Ekmo (Umaga/Jamal) - beats Whitmer at an HWA live event
2003-01-12 Kane - beats Jamal at a WWE live event
2003-06-02 Rene Dupree - beats Kane on WWE Raw
2003-06-09 Rob Van Dam (2) - beats Dupree on WWE Raw
2003-06-27 Triple H - beats RVD at a WWE live event
[at this point HHH was the holder of the leather jacket, the right to date Stephanie, control of both WWE and WCW... yeah, you know where this is going.]
2011-01-31 Edge (7) - beats Miz on WWE Raw

NINE wins. NINE.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Edge has it all!