If X were a Title: tracking the lineage of some strange stipulations

[Sky]

A quickie:
Who rightfully has Jeff Hardy as their personal assistant?

Spoiler: Who holds Jeff Hardy?

2015-07-28 Ethan Carter III - beats Matt Hardy on TNA Impact Wrestling, thereby forcing Jeff Hardy to be EC3's personal assistant
[but EC3 had Ric Flair's HoF ring and his cut of WWE at the time, so...]
2016-11-13 Mike Gibson - beats Toxic and Mitch Thompson in a Three-Way Elimination match at BATTLEWAR 39

This is for posterity honestly. Just showing that we have a third 3-time champion

 

[Chris]

There's some sort of victory convergence hypothesis theory that could be derived from this thread I'm sure

 

[Mitch Buchannon]

Not sure if this has been done yet but Scott Steiner beat Test at Bad Blood to win Stacy Keibler's managerial services. Now is the rightful owner of Stacy's contract? Also at Unforgiven Test beat Steiner for Steiner's services. Who does Scott Steiner rightfully serve?

 

[Sky]

I alluded to this one in the Baby Doll post, but it's another quickie:
Who has the right to bed Precious?

An initial note: the starting point is contentious but ultimately irrelevant. Wikipedia:

In the summer of 1987, Precious played a major part in a feud between the Garvins and Ric Flair, where Flair tried to woo Precious, even buying her a mink coat. After defeating Jimmy Garvin in a cage match, Flair won the right to spend the night with Precious, but she and the Garvins got the last laugh, as Flair instead spent the night with Miss Atlanta Lively (Ron Garvin in drag), setting the stage for Ron to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship from Flair.

Flair had three separate cage matches against Garvin in June 1987. I've gone with the earliest because it was on TV. It doesn't matter, really, because Flair couldn't have lost it between those matches anyway.

Spoiler: Who holds Precious?

1987-06-11 Ric Flair - beats Jimmy Garvin in a Steel Cage match on NWA World Championship Wrestling
1987-07-01 Dusty Rhodes - beats Flair in a 2/3 Falls match on NWA Southern Professional Wrestling
[Precious and Baby Doll's fates are now unified...]
2020-01-19 Zac Taylor - beats Zayne, ACH, and Chandler Hopkins in a Four Corners match at Inspire Pro New Ecstasy of Gold

Four-time champ. That victory convergence thing might be on to something.

 

[Chris]

I bet given enough time these will all converge onto one superstar barring early retiremets as some exceptions like that one Rick Rude won.

 

[Sky]

Thanks @Moscow Mitch :
Who rightfully holds the managerial services of Stacy Keibler (and Scott Steiner)?

Spoiler: Who holds Stacy and Steiner?

2003-06-15 Scott Steiner - beats Test at WWE Bad Blood, gaining Stacy's services (and her legs)
2003-08-01 Test - beats Steiner at a WWE live event (he reclaimed Stacy's services in an actual match on Raw on 2003-08-18)
2003-08-29 Scott Steiner (2) - beats Test at a WWE live event
2003-09-21 Test (2) - beats Steiner at WWE Unforgiven, reclaiming Stacy's services and gaining Scott Steiner's! It's a 2-in-1!
2003-09-28 Lance Storm - beats Test at a WWE live event
2003-11-02 Mark Henry - beats Storm at a WWE live event
2003-11-03 Shawn Michaels - beats Henry on WWE Raw
2004-02-07 Triple H - beats HBK at a WWE live event
[at this point, you should know where this is going, as HHH at this point has the Viagra, ownership of WWE and WCW, the leather jacket...]
2011-01-31 Edge (7) - beats Miz on WWE Raw

Fuck me. 11 times.

 

[Sky]

Let's stick with Steiner for a moment, as we ask:
Who has the right to use the chain mail headdress?

Spoiler: Who holds the headdress?

2009-02-09 Scott Steiner - beats Petey Williams in a Headdress on a Pole match on TNA Impact, ending the days of "Little Petey Pump"
2009-02-20 AJ Styles - beats Steiner at a TNA live event
2009-03-30 Scott Steiner (2) - beats Styles on TNA Impact
2009-04-21 Jeff Jarrett - beats Steiner in a Cactus Jack Smack Attack match on TNA Impact
2009-05-24 Sting - beats Jarrett, Kurt Angle, and Mick Foley in a Four-Way Ultimate Sacrifice match at TNA Sacrifice
2009-05-27 Kurt Angle - beats Sting on TNA Impact
2009-09-20 AJ Styles (2) - beats Angle, Sting, Hernandez, and Matt Morgan in a Five-Way match at TNA No Surrender
2009-11-03 Samoa Joe - beats Styles on TNA Impact
2009-11-06 AJ Styles (3) - beats Joe at a TNA live event
2010-01-20 D'Angelo Dinero - beats Styles on TNA Impact
2010-01-30 Desmond Wolfe - beats Pope at a TNA live event
2010-02-04 D'Angelo Dinero (2) - beats Wolfe at a TNA live event
2010-02-05 Desmond Wolfe (2) - beats Pope at a TNA live event
2010-02-06 D'Angelo Dinero (3) - beats Wolfe at a TNA live event
2010-02-11 AJ Styles (4) - beats Pope at a TNA live event
[2010-02-16 Styles gets Hulk Hogan's HoF ring by beating Abyss in a four-way, and so...]
2011-08-13 Strong Man - beats Suzuki at NJPW G1 Climax

Finally! I was wondering when he'd come back.

 

[Vegeta]

Thanks @Moscow Mitch :
Who rightfully holds the managerial services of Stacy Keibler (and Scott Steiner)?

Spoiler: Who holds Stacy and Steiner?

2003-06-15 Scott Steiner - beats Test at WWE Bad Blood, gaining Stacy's services (and her legs)
2003-08-01 Test - beats Steiner at a WWE live event (he reclaimed Stacy's services in an actual match on Raw on 2003-08-18)
2003-08-29 Scott Steiner (2) - beats Test at a WWE live event
2003-09-21 Test (2) - beats Steiner at WWE Unforgiven, reclaiming Stacy's services and gaining Scott Steiner's! It's a 2-in-1!
2003-09-28 Lance Storm - beats Test at a WWE live event
2003-11-02 Mark Henry - beats Storm at a WWE live event
2003-11-03 Shawn Michaels - beats Henry on WWE Raw
2004-02-07 Triple H - beats HBK at a WWE live event
[at this point, you should know where this is going, as HHH at this point has the Viagra, ownership of WWE and WCW, the leather jacket...]
2011-01-31 Edge (7) - beats Miz on WWE Raw

Fuck me. 11 times.

My god LOL


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[Sky]

Here's another women's one, another recent one, and another quickie:
Who is the current rightful Baddest Woman on the Planet?

Spoiler: Who holds the Baddest name?

2018-01-28 Ronda Rousey - makes her debut in WWE, and is referred to throughout her time with the company as "Baddest Woman on the Planet"
2019-04-07 Becky Lynch - beats Rousey and Charlotte Flair in a Triple Threat match at WWE WrestleMania 35
[Becky also has Brie Bella as her PA at this point, so...]
2020-05-12 Bayley (4) - beats Charlotte on WWE SmackDown

Bayley Two... uh... Belts

 

[Chris]

I hope we pick up on some obscure ones you can do for this that we've forgotten about during our 02 watch along

 

[Sky]

Here's one that's an actual belt:
Who is the current rightful WCW World Television Champion?

Spoiler: Who holds the TV Title?

2000-02-16 Jim Duggan - finds the title literally in the trash on WCW Saturday Night. Unlike the other belts during the Bischoff/Russo WCW reboot, this belt wasn't vacated, but just forgotten about. So, let's follow it.
2000-06-26 Goldberg - beats Duggan on WCW Monday Nitro
[2000-07-09 Goldberg wins Scott Hall's contract...]
2000-09-25 Vince Russo (!!) - beats Booker in a Caged Heat match on WCW Monday Nitro

...

I feel used.

 

[Sky]

Another belt!
Who is the current (WW)ECW Champion?

Spoiler: Who holds the ECW Championship?

2010-02-16 Ezekiel Jackson - beats Christian in an Extreme Rules match on WWE ECW, the night of the ECW brand's closure.
2010-02-21 Christian - beats Jackson at WWE Elimination Chamber (dark)
2010-02-28 The Miz - beats Christian at a WWE live event
2010-03-09 R-Truth - beats Miz on WWE SmackDown
2010-04-13 Dolph Ziggler - beats Truth on WWE SmackDown
2010-04-14 R-Truth (2) - beats Ziggler at a WWE live event
2010-05-01 Drew McIntyre - beats Truth at a WWE live event
2010-05-15 Kofi Kingston - beats McIntyre at a WWE live event
[2010-05-18 Kofi beats Swagger, wins the massive ball-o-stuff, which can only mean it ends up with...]
2011-01-31 Edge - beats Miz on WWE Raw

12

Twelve.

 

[Vegeta]

Edge DA GOAT

 

[Mitch Buchannon]

How about doing John Cena's stablerights since him joining the Nexus was a stipulation of him losing to Wade Barrett at HIAC 2010?

 

[Sky]

Of course, maybe you don't think any of WWE's reigns with the ECW Championship are canon. That's fine...
Who is the current (original) ECW World Heavyweight Champion?

Spoiler: Who holds the real ECW Championship?

2001-01-07 Rhyno - beats The Sandman at ECW Guilty as Charged, and continues to hold it until the last event before ECW's closure
2001-03-04 Raven - beats Rhyno at a WWF live event
2001-03-11 Justin Credible - beats Raven at a WWF live event
2001-04-16 Bubba Ray Dudley - beats Credible on WWF Raw
2001-05-29 Bob Holly - beats Ray on WWF SmackDown
2001-06-03 Raven (2) - beats Holly at a WWF live event
2001-06-05 Christian - beats Raven on WWF Sunday Night Heat
2001-06-10 Raven (3) - beats Christian at a WWF live event
2001-06-10 Rhyno (2) - beats Raven at a WWF live event
2001-06-12 Test - beats Rhyno on WWF SmackDown
2001-06-25 Rhyno (3) - beats Test on WWF Raw
2001-06-26 Raven (4) - beats Rhyno on WWF Sunday Night Heat
2001-07-01 Rhyno (4) - beats Raven at a WWF live event
2001-07-08 Test (2) - beats Rhyno at a WWF live event
2001-07-27 Tiger Ali Singh - beats Test at IWA Puerto Rico Summer Attitude
2001-07-28 Ricky Banderas (El Mesias) - beats Singh at IWA Puerto Rico Summer Attitude
2002-09-14 Rey Fenix (Ray Gonzalez) - beats Banderas at IWA Puerto Rico Golpe de Estado
2002-11-09 Apolo - beats Gonzalez at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2002-11-10 Abyss - beats Apolo in a No Rules match at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2002-11-17 Apolo (2) - beats Abyss in an Extreme Rules match at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2002-12-01 Rey Fenix (2) - beats Apolo at IWA Puerto Rico Hardcore Weekend
2002-12-08 Apolo (3) - beats Gonzalez at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-01-06 Ricky Banderas (2) - beats Apolo at IWA Puerto Rico Historia Boricua
2003-02-01 Shane Sewell - beats Banderas at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-03-08 Nord (Joe E. Legend) - beats Sewell at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-04-12 Ray Gonzalez (3) - beats Nord at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-07-19 Apolo (4) - beats Gonzalez at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-09-20 Shane Sewell (2) - beats Apolo at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-10-11 Bison Smith - beats Sewell at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-10-25 Shane Sewell (3) - beats Bison at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-11-01 Bison Smith (2) - beats Sewell at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-11-23 Ricky Banderas (3) - beats Bison at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-11-27 Slash Venom (Flash Flanagan) - beats Banderas at an IWA Puerto Rico live event
2003-12-11 Vampiro - beats Venom at IWA Puerto Rico Christmas in Puerto Rico
2004-05-03 Shocker - beats Vampiro in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Lunes Arena Puebla
2005-03-06 Hector Garza - beats Shocker at CMLL Domingos de Coliseo
2005-07-15 Lizmark Jr. - beats Garza on CMLL on Televisa
2006-03-31 Hector Garza (2) - beats Lizmark at CMLL Super Viernes
2006-03-31 Dos Caras Jr. - beats Garza at CMLL Super Viernes
2006-06-20 Ultimo Guerrero - beats Caras in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Martes de Coliseo
2006-07-14 Rey Bucanero - beats Guerrero in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Super Viernes
2006-07-16 Atlantis - beats Bucanero in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Domingos de Coliseo
2006-09-01 Mistico - beats Atlantis and 6 others in a Torneo Cibernetico at CMLL Super Viernes
2006-09-04 Black Warrior - beats Mistico at Wrestling In Puebla
2006-09-08 Mistico (2) - beats Black Warrior in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Super Viernes
2007-02-26 Averno - beats Mistico at a CMLL live event
2007-03-27 Dr. Wagner Jr. - beats Averno in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Martes de Coliseo
2007-04-10 Averno (2) - beats Wagner at CMLL Guadalajara Martes
2007-05-25 El Sagrado - beats Averno and 8 others in a Torneo Cibernetico at CMLL Super Viernes
2007-06-01 Mr. Aguila - beats Sagrado in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Super Viernes
2007-06-08 Mistico (3) - beats Aguila in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Super Viernes
2007-11-30 Averno (3) - beats Mistico in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Super Viernes
2008-03-07 Hector Garza (3) - beats Averno in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Super Viernes
2008-03-21 Perro Aguayo Jr. - beats Garza in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Homenaje a Dos Leyendas
2008-07-25 Mistico (4) - beats Aguayo in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Super Viernes
2009-03-20 Negro Casas - beats Mistico in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Homenaje a Dos Leyendas
2009-04-14 Mistico (5) - beats Casas at Wrestling in Oaxaca
2009-06-12 Ultimo Guerrero (2) - beats Mistico at CMLL Super Viernes
2009-07-20 Hector Garza (4) - beats Guerrero in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Lunes Arena Puebla
2009-07-27 Ultimo Guerrero (3) - beats Garza in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Lunes Arena Puebla
2009-10-18 Strong Man - beats Guerrero in a 2/3 Falls match at CMLL Domingos Arena Mexico
2010-03-14 Hiroshi Tanahashi - beats Strong Man at NJPW Circuit 2010 New Japan Cup
2010-03-20 Tetsuya Naito - beats Tanahashi at NJPW Circuit 2010 New Japan Cup
2010-03-22 Togi Makabe - beats Naito at NJPW Circuit 2010 New Japan Cup
2010-03-22 Hirooki Goto - beats Makabe at NJPW Circuit 2010 New Japan Cup
2010-04-04 Shinsuke Nakamura - beats Goto at NJPW New Dimension
2010-05-03 Togi Makabe (2) - beats Nakamura at NJPW Wrestling Dontaku 2010
2010-08-06 Tetsuya Naito (2) - beats Makabe at NJPW G1 Climax XX
2010-08-12 Toru Yano - beats Naito at NJPW G1 Climax XX
2010-08-13 Hiroshi Tanahashi (2) - beats Yano at NJPW G1 Climax XX
2010-08-14 Prince Devitt - beats Tanahashi at NJPW G1 Climax XX
2010-08-15 Toru Yano (2) - beats Devitt at NJPW G1 Climax XX
2010-10-11 Tajiri - beats Yano at NJPW Destruction
2011-01-29 Michael Kovac - beats Tajiri at SMASH.13
2011-02-18 Tatanka - beats Kovac at GHW Hurricane Havoc
2011-02-25 Joe E. Legend (2) - beats Tatanka at Wrestling Legends Tour
2011-03-18 El Ligero - beats Joe at an ASW live event
2011-03-26 Nathan Cruz - beats Ligero and RJ Singh in a Three-Way match at FWA New Frontiers
2011-06-18 El Ligero (2) - beats Cruz at an ASW live event
2011-08-06 Nathan Cruz (2) - beats Ligero and CJ Banks in a Three-Way match at DPW August Anarchy
2011-10-28 Shadow Phoenix - beats Cruz at an ASW live event
2012-02-12 Diablo - beats Phoenix at DEP Dojo Show
2012-07-15 Atsushi Kotoge - beats Diablo at NOAH Summer Navigation
2012-07-22 Kota Ibushi - beats Kotoge at NOAH The Great Voyage
2012-09-30 El Generico - beats Ibushi at DDT Who's Gonna Top?
2012-10-06 Stupified - beats Generico at NSPW 4th Anniversary Show
2012-11-24 Josh Alexander - beats Stupified in a No Disqualification match at C4 Five
2013-02-22 Ethan Page - beats Alexander, Michael Elgin, and Christopher Bishop in a Four Corners Elimination Match at Battle Arts Recipe for Disaster
2013-03-10 Josh Alexander (2) - beats Page in a No Disqualification match at SCW Adrenaline Cup 2013
2013-03-16 Mustafa Ali - beats Alexander and Mark Angelosetti in a Three-Way match at VWAA Adapt or Die
2013-03-17 Golden Dragon - beats Ali, Ovirload, and Matt Creed in a Fatal Four-Way match at a GALLI live event
2013-07-21 Ripper - beats Golden Dragon at a GALLI live event

... and this is where it ends. See, Ripper doesn't have a Cagematch page, or any info about him from after 2011 anywhere. The generic name makes it even more difficult. I searched GALLI's matches, but no one called Ripper had a qualifying match afterward. So, I guess this has to end here. Ripper, whoever you are, you're the ECW World Heavyweight Champion.

A wild ride with a disappointing finish.