If X were a Title: tracking the lineage of some strange stipulations

[Grimoire Lenin]

Who owns Kurt Angle's Gold Medal?

He lost it to Eugene in like 05 so I'm curious to see.

 

[Smart Marx]

Oh wait I'm an idiot I just realized that would still result in the same lineage as the others bc of Goldberg nvm ignore me Sky

According to my BTB, that's null and void now that Goldberg is in the WWF.

Kevin Nash mentions it in his promo.

 

[Leon TrotSky]

Okay, let's do a title history that starts in 2005. Except it doesn't. It starts in 1996.
Who owns Kurt Angle's Olympic gold medal?

Spoiler: Who holds the gold medal?

[1996-07-31 Kurt Angle - wins the men's freestyle wrestling (100kg) event at the Atlanta Olympics]
2005-07-25 Eugene - beats Angle in a Angle Invitational Challenge on WWE Raw by surviving 3 minutes, winning the medal
2005-08-12 Kurt Angle - beats Eugene at a WWE live event
2005-08-26 John Cena - beats Angle and Shawn Michaels in a Triple Threat match at a WWE live event
2005-10-24 Kurt Angle (2) - beats Cena on WWE Raw
2005-10-27 John Cena (2) - beats Angle at a WWE house show
2006-01-02 Kurt Angle (3) - beats Cena in a First Blood match on WWE Raw
2006-01-02 John Cena (3) - beats Angle and Triple H on WWE Raw (dark)
2006-01-08 Edge - beats Cena at WWE New Year's Revolution
2006-01-29 John Cena (4) - beats Edge at WWE Royal Rumble
2006-06-11 Rob Van Dam - beats Cena at WWE/ECW One Night Stand
2006-07-03 Edge (2) - beats RVD and Cena in a Triple Threat No Disqualification match on WWE Raw
2006-07-07 John Cena (5) - beats Edge in a Street Fight at a WWE live event
2006-07-17 Umaga - beats Cena on WWE Raw
2006-10-08 Kane - beats Umaga at a WWE live event
2006-10-09 Umaga (2) - beats Kane in a Loser Leaves match on WWE Raw
2007-01-07 John Cena (6) - beats Umaga at WWE New Year's Revolution
2007-04-23 Shawn Michaels - beats Cena on WWE Raw
2007-04-29 John Cena (7) - beats HBK, Edge, and Randy Orton in a Fatal Four-Way match at WWE Backlash
2007-05-28 The Great Khali - beats Cena on WWE Saturday Night's Main Event
2007-06-03 John Cena (8) - beats Khali in a Falls Count Anywhere match at WWE One Night Stand
[2007-06-24 John Cena wins the five-way at Vengeance, unifying the medal with the Viagra and Judy Bagwell]
2011-01-31 Edge (8) - beats Miz on WWE Raw

So even though John Cena broke the record for most reigns with a single object (11), Edge now has Judy Bagwell, a bottle of 20-year-old Viagra, and an Olympic gold medal. He even has the broken freakin' neck to go with it.

I think you should also know that Maria Kanellis had a chance of getting the gold medal at one point. Unfortunately her match with Umaga went to a no contest.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

 

[Chris]

Edge got all the good shit

 

[Leon TrotSky]

I might be stupid but I don't understand how this works lmao. How do you track it? What's the criteria?

I understand why it might be confusing, so I added a little explanation, as well as a tracker for how many things each wrestler has won.

 

[Leon TrotSky]

We're going back to 2000 WCW, for what was apparently one of the first "bad" pole matches in WCW. We're going to find out:
Who is the rightful owner of Tank Abbott's leather jacket?

Spoiler: Who holds the leather jacket?

2000-02-20 Tank Abbott - beats Big Al in a Leather Jacket on a Pole match at WCW SuperBrawl 2000. Big Al doesn't have a Cagematch page, so I'm glad the match went this way...
2000-02-28 Sid Vicious - beats Abbott on WCW Monday Nitro
2000-12-10 Scott Steiner - beats Sid at a WCW live event
2001-03-26 Booker T - beats Steiner on WCW Monday Nitro
2001-07-24 Kurt Angle - beats Booker on WWF SmackDown
2001-07-30 Booker T (2) - beats Angle in a No Disqualification match on WWF Raw
2001-08-19 The Rock - beats Booker at WWF SummerSlam
2001-10-21 Chris Jericho - beats Rock at WWF No Mercy
2001-11-05 The Rock (2) - beats Jericho on WWF Raw
2001-12-09 Chris Jericho (2) - beats Rock at WWF Vengeance
2002-03-17 Triple H - beats Jericho at WWF WrestleMania X-8
2002-04-21 Hulk Hogan - beats HHH at WWF Backlash
2002-05-19 The Undertaker - beats Hogan at WWE Judgment Day
2002-06-18 Kurt Angle - beats Taker on WWE SmackDown
2002-06-22 Rikishi - beats Angle at a WWE live event
2002-07-02 Lance Storm - beats Rikishi on WWE SmackDown
2002-08-12 Booker T (3) - beats Storm on WWE Raw
2002-09-29 Chris Jericho (3) - beats Booker at a WWE live event
2002-09-30 Kane - beats Jericho on WWE Raw
2002-10-20 Triple H (2) - beats Kane at WWE No Mercy
2002-10-28 Kane (2) - beats HHH in a Casket match on WWE Raw
2002-11-17 Shawn Michaels - beats Kane, Booker, Jericho, HHH, and Rob Van Dam in an Elimination Chamber match at WWE Survivor Series
2002-12-15 Triple H (3) - beats HBK in a 3 Stages of Hell match at WWE Armageddon
[2003-07-20 HHH beats Goldberg, unifying the jacket with the Viagra, Judy Bagwell, and eventually the Olympic gold medal...]
2011-01-31 Edge (7) - beats Miz on WWE Raw

Wow. Not only does Edge have Judy Bagwell, a bottle of expired Viagra and an Olympic gold medal... he has a nice leather jacket that's probably too big for him.

Will the reign of terror never end?

 

[Brandon Blaze]

Edge truly is one of the GOATS!

 

[Smart Marx]

We're going back to 2000 WCW, for what was apparently one of the first "bad" pole matches in WCW. We're going to find out:
Who is the rightful owner of Tank Abbott's leather jacket?

Spoiler: Who holds the leather jacket?

2000-02-20 Tank Abbott - beats Big Al in a Leather Jacket on a Pole match at WCW SuperBrawl 2000. Big Al doesn't have a Cagematch page, so I'm glad the match went this way...
2000-02-28 Sid Vicious - beats Abbott on WCW Monday Nitro
2000-12-10 Scott Steiner - beats Sid at a WCW live event
2001-03-26 Booker T - beats Steiner on WCW Monday Nitro
2001-07-24 Kurt Angle - beats Booker on WWF SmackDown
2001-07-30 Booker T (2) - beats Angle in a No Disqualification match on WWF Raw
2001-08-19 The Rock - beats Booker at WWF SummerSlam
2001-10-21 Chris Jericho - beats Rock at WWF No Mercy
2001-11-05 The Rock (2) - beats Jericho on WWF Raw
2001-12-09 Chris Jericho (2) - beats Rock at WWF Vengeance
2002-03-17 Triple H - beats Jericho at WWF WrestleMania X-8
2002-04-21 Hulk Hogan - beats HHH at WWF Backlash
2002-05-19 The Undertaker - beats Hogan at WWE Judgment Day
2002-06-18 Kurt Angle - beats Taker on WWE SmackDown
2002-06-22 Rikishi - beats Angle at a WWE live event
2002-07-02 Lance Storm - beats Rikishi on WWE SmackDown
2002-08-12 Booker T (3) - beats Storm on WWE Raw
2002-09-29 Chris Jericho (3) - beats Booker at a WWE live event
2002-09-30 Kane - beats Jericho on WWE Raw
2002-10-20 Triple H (2) - beats Kane at WWE No Mercy
2002-10-28 Kane (2) - beats HHH in a Casket match on WWE Raw
2002-11-17 Shawn Michaels - beats Kane, Booker, Jericho, HHH, and Rob Van Dam in an Elimination Chamber match at WWE Survivor Series
2002-12-15 Triple H (3) - beats HBK in a 3 Stages of Hell match at WWE Armageddon
[2003-07-20 HHH beats Goldberg, unifying the jacket with the Viagra, Judy Bagwell, and eventually the Olympic gold medal...]
2011-01-31 Edge (7) - beats Miz on WWE Raw

Wow. Not only does Edge have Judy Bagwell, a bottle of expired Viagra and an Olympic gold medal... he has a nice leather jacket that's probably too big for him.

Will the reign of terror never end?

Was that the match he pulled a switchblade out?

 

[Brandon Blaze]

What about the best in the world trophy that Shane won?


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[Smart Marx]

Edge truly is one of the GOATS!

You know it.

 

[Chris]

What about the best in the world trophy that Shane won?


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It feels like Shane is undefeated other than the KO match since this

 

[Leon TrotSky]

What about the best in the world trophy that Shane won?


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Let's do a short one, then.
Who is the rightful Best Wrestler in the World?

Spoiler: Who holds the Best in the World?

2018-11-02 Shane McMahon - inserts himself into a World Cup tournament featuring only American wrestlers, wins, and declares himself the Best in the WOOOOOOOOOOORLD. It's Crown Jewel 2018, we don't talk about it.
[2019-06-07 Shane additionally claims the Yoshi Tatsu figure leg with another win in Saudi Arabia]
2019-08-11 Kevin Owens - beats Shane at WWE SummerSlam
2019-08-13 Samoa Joe - beats KO on WWE SmackDown
2019-08-17 Kevin Owens (2) - beats Joe at a WWE live event
2019-08-20 Elias - beats KO on WWE SmackDown

Good to see Elias has another trophy.

 

[Chris]

Fuck Elias

 

[Leon TrotSky]

I'm going to calculate some ones that the guys at Reddit already did, for completion's sake.

Who holds custody of Dominick Mysterio?

Spoiler: Who holds custody?

2005-08-21 Rey Mysterio - beats Eddie Guerrero in a Ladder match at SummerSlam 2005, retaining custody of Dominick (though Eddie always insisted that he was Dominick's Papi)
2005-08-30 Randy Orton - beats Mysterio on WWE SmackDown
2005-09-12 The Undertaker - beats Orton on WWE SmackDown
2006-02-07 Kurt Angle - beats Taker and Mark Henry in a Triple Threat match on WWE SmackDown (dark)
2006-03-20 Mark Henry - beats Angle on WWE SmackDown
2006-03-25 The Undertaker (2) - beats Henry in a Street Fight at a WWE live event
2006-05-21 The Great Khali - beats Taker at WWE Judgment Day
2006-08-05 The Undertaker (3) - beats Khali in a Last Man Standing match at a WWE live event
2006-11-26 Mr. Kennedy - beats Taker in a First Blood match at WWE Survivor Series
2006-12-04 Batista - beats Kennedy and Finlay in a Triple Threat match at a WWE live event
[with Batista's win, the custody is unified with the Viagra/Judy/leather jacket...]
2011-01-31 Edge (7) - beats Miz on WWE Raw

This was no surprise, as it's actually from the Reddit post that started all of this. But yeah, it's official for the purposes of this thread.

Yup.