UFC 150: Henderson vs. Edgar II

[No More Sorrow]

I dont' think there's going to be a rematch, I know it's close and people are going to complain about them not doing a third fight but this division has been clogged up for two years now with rematches.

Should've been either a draw or they should've gave the fight to Edgar.

Henderson vs Diaz is the next fight they're making though, i don't think there's any doubt about that.

 

[Dod Draper]

Missed this because I was drunk and probably looked like Shelton Benjamin Melvin Guillard stumbling round. I recorded it, though. Watched it this morning.

Don't like the decision, Edgar? In that case, fight to finish, not for a decision. I've got no sympathy. Especially considering how questionable this rematch was.

 

[Big Red Jericho Punk]

I like Bendo but it can't be justified that he won. Edgar was the aggressor and laid in more impact shots. I'm excited for Bendo vs Diaz though, can't wait to see a Diaz brother hold a title in the UFC.

 

[Slim]

Yeah I can say I'm disappointed in the main event that nobody finished the other. Edgar just seems to have a problem with finishing people. He won the match barely against BJ the first time. Then he faced a BJ that was barely there and couldn't finish him. He face Maynard the first time and fought to a draw, the second time he fought and won via KO. But then he fights towards a decision for the two fights against Henderson and loses both. Its time for him to move down. At least Aldo would fight for a finish and look to finish the fight.

But I am excited for Henderson vs. Diaz. That is gonna be a fight where someone should get finished.

But I am glad that Shields is back up at middleweight although he didn't look too good against Herman but he'll get better. Gonna start tapping people out.

And one more thing... what in the world happened to Melvin? Or as someone last night called him Sisqo. I mean the guy was at one point at the cusp of reaching the elites in the division and now he's just losing.

 

[Dod Draper]

There are only three places in life where a person's every action must be clear and obvious to even the stupidest observer: Junior High School, prison and mixed martial arts.

Those three environments do not tolerate nuance, subtlety, or irony. Those three audiences are not enamored of obfuscation, small strokes or fine calibration.

Nope, if you're in the pen, Middle School or the Octagon, the audience demands big, bold obvious gestures that cannot be misinterpreted.

Perhaps former UFC Lightweight champion Frankie Edgar has finally learned that lesson after dropping a decision loss to current champ Ben Henderson at UFC 150 last night in Denver. While a considerable majority of the fight cognoscenti who took to Twitter, Facebook and the Bloody Elbow comment section to voice their opinions thought Edgar won his rematch with Henderson, 2/3 of the judges didn't see things that way and Frankie lost the fight.

Good.

Frankie Edgar, skilled and capable as he is, has been boring the daylights out of the Lightweight division since taking the belt from B.J. Penn at UFC 112 in April 2010. Apparently he's been laboring under the misapprehension that fans and judges appreciate his elegant point-fighting style.

Alas Mr. Edgar we do not.

MMA fans thirst for clear conclusions. We want definitive answers, not 50 shades of Frankie Edgar. With the exception of his second title bout with Gray Maynard, every single Frankie Edgar LW title fight has left its outcome to the judges to decide and the fans to debate.

Heed the call Frankie, move on down to Featherweight where maybe you'll have the heft and muscle to force a stoppage on opponents instead of sending it to the judges.

I'm so looking forward to seeing Ben Henderson defend his title against Nate Diaz. I'm even happier that I don't have to worry about whatever skilled, subtle and nuanced approach Frankie Edgar would take to sucking all the fun out of Diaz' Stockton Brawl style and making sure the judges have a hard decision to render.

Good luck at Featherweight Frankie, fans of the Lightweight division won't miss you.

SOURCE

Fifty Shades of Frankie Edgar.

This article mirrored my opinion of Edgar.

 

[No More Sorrow]

So during the post fight press conference there was a fight in the hallway, everybody had wondered what was up. Apparently, Edgar and Bendo's manager got into a fist fight.

 

[Slim]

So during the post fight press conference there was a fight in the hallway, everybody had wondered what was up. Apparently, Edgar and Bendo's manager got into a fist fight.

Wonder what the judges score was on who won that fight.

 

[Ryan]

So we're all gonna bitch about Frankie not finishing when GSP does the same thing yet is considered one of the best P4P fighters in the world? Stop hating on Edgar for no reason. He did damn well in that fight last night and probably should have won. He could drop down to Featherweight and fight Aldo and he could probably beat Aldo. Sure, Aldo can throw the kicks but if Frankie drops down he's gonna be the one with the size/strength advantage. I think Frankie could win at featherweight, but he should just stay at lightweight. He's proven that he's more than capable of doing so. Stay at lightweight, work his way back up, and challenge for the title again.

 

[Slim]

So we're all gonna bitch about Frankie not finishing when GSP does the same thing yet is considered one of the best P4P fighters in the world? Stop hating on Edgar for no reason. He did damn well in that fight last night and probably should have won. He could drop down to Featherweight and fight Aldo and he could probably beat Aldo. Sure, Aldo can throw the kicks but if Frankie drops down he's gonna be the one with the size/strength advantage. I think Frankie could win at featherweight, but he should just stay at lightweight. He's proven that he's more than capable of doing so. Stay at lightweight, work his way back up, and challenge for the title again.

The problem with that comparison... GSP DOMINATES. Edgar doesn't. He didn't dominate against Henderson in both fights. He didn't dominate against Penn, he didn't dominate against Maynard. Whereas when was the last time GSP looked like he could possibly lose? Edgar leaves it up to the judges cause he can't finish. He only did that once against Maynard but other than that its like... oh crap who is gonna win who is gonna win and it winds up being "controversial" because one guy won over the other.

Nobody is hating on Edgar saying anything negative other than he can't finish and he'd be better suited in a lighter division. I mean really how is that considered hating? Edgar needs to leave lightweight cause right now he's out of the lightweight title picture and will be for quite a while now so what is he gonna do just fight different guys for the next 3 or so years? But if he were to move down to featherweight he could wind up with a title fight with his second fight in that division.

 

[The Cork]

I don't think he's boring at all and he did go for the finish a number of times, just happens you can't choke Bendo out.

The only big gripe I had was he didn't deserve this fight, which makes it hard to feel sorry for him.

 

[Dod Draper]

Agree with Slim, it's ridiculous to compare GSP to Edgar. GSP thoroughly dominates, Edgar doesn't. I'm happy to watch 5 rounds if you get a clear winner at the end of it. I just hate watching 5 rounds and still not having a clear conclusion, which is most of Edgar's title fights at 155.

 

[Ryan]

The problem with that comparison... GSP DOMINATES. Edgar doesn't. He didn't dominate against Henderson in both fights. He didn't dominate against Penn, he didn't dominate against Maynard. Whereas when was the last time GSP looked like he could possibly lose? Edgar leaves it up to the judges cause he can't finish. He only did that once against Maynard but other than that its like... oh crap who is gonna win who is gonna win and it winds up being "controversial" because one guy won over the other.

Nobody is hating on Edgar saying anything negative other than he can't finish and he'd be better suited in a lighter division. I mean really how is that considered hating? Edgar needs to leave lightweight cause right now he's out of the lightweight title picture and will be for quite a while now so what is he gonna do just fight different guys for the next 3 or so years? But if he were to move down to featherweight he could wind up with a title fight with his second fight in that division.

Okay, so you're right, GSP does often go into a decision a bit more confidently, but that's neither here nor there. First of all, I'm not taking anything away from GSP, his skill is phenomenal and I do like him a lot, in fact, I hope he beats Condit, but let's be honest here his fights suck to watch. That fight last night was well worth watching. I don't understand how you'd rather watch a fight with GSP dominating but boring everyone over what you saw last night because there wasn't a clear winner. That's just ass backwards. Edgar did try to finish, and he couldn't. All that proves is that Bendo is that good. Who cares if he hasn't finished against other opponents. If I'm not mistaken, he still beat both Penn and Maynard and isn't that what matters? Winning is all that matters and he still won so your argument is basically irrelevant to what I'm saying. You're bitching about him not finishing saying he should drop down in weight when he easily held his own against Henderson and probably should've won last night. There are guys that finish and guys that don't, but as long as they win that's what matters. If he drops down, he's basically gonna dominate the featherweight division sans for possibly Jose Aldo who I still think he'd beat.

 

[Dod Draper]

Okay, so you're right, GSP does often go into a decision a bit more confidently, but that's neither here nor there. First of all, I'm not taking anything away from GSP, his skill is phenomenal and I do like him a lot, in fact, I hope he beats Condit, but let's be honest here his fights suck to watch. That fight last night was well worth watching. I don't understand how you'd rather watch a fight with GSP dominating but boring everyone over what you saw last night because there wasn't a clear winner. That's just ass backwards. Edgar did try to finish, and he couldn't. All that proves is that Bendo is that good. Who cares if he hasn't finished against other opponents. If I'm not mistaken, he still beat both Penn and Maynard and isn't that what matters? Winning is all that matters and he still won so your argument is basically irrelevant to what I'm saying. You're bitching about him not finishing saying he should drop down in weight when he easily held his own against Henderson and probably should've won last night. There are guys that finish and guys that don't, but as long as they win that's what matters. If he drops down, he's basically gonna dominate the featherweight division sans for possibly Jose Aldo who I still think he'd beat.

Boring is an objective term. I don't understand how you can enjoy watching Edgar. Just because a fight is standing, it doesn't necessarily make it exciting.

Then there's the freaking rematches. I hate watching the same fight a few months after we saw it last time.

It's not a matter of hating Edgar, it's a matter of hating having to watch him fight.

 

[Dademo]

So we're all gonna bitch about Frankie not finishing when GSP does the same thing yet is considered one of the best P4P fighters in the world? Stop hating on Edgar for no reason. He did damn well in that fight last night and probably should have won. He could drop down to Featherweight and fight Aldo and he could probably beat Aldo. Sure, Aldo can throw the kicks but if Frankie drops down he's gonna be the one with the size/strength advantage. I think Frankie could win at featherweight, but he should just stay at lightweight. He's proven that he's more than capable of doing so. Stay at lightweight, work his way back up, and challenge for the title again.

GSP is A BEAST. He dominates. He doesn't give the judges a hard decision, at the very least, so both guys are non-comparable.

Nate will take the belt.

 

[The Cork]

Nate will take the belt.

rofl.