Terminator Genisys: Rise of the Machines Mafia Game Thread

[Ekkologix]

btw abigail knows my role

dont say what it is though

this is interesting
u guys town read each other?

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Why are we talking about people from other sites? Can't we just concentrate on this game? It's confusing when some of you are talking about other people from other sites who aren't here.

BTW I know I've been asked for my thoughts but the only people I've really made up my mind on are Blaze & Barry (town leaning) and Ekko, who I've decided is more scum leaning. I said town before but since I was last here like 2 hours ago, he's flipped back and forth between aggressive and nice too much for my liking.

Just know if you're gonna vote for him to bold it.

 

[Sister Abigail]

yea i agree hider claim seems the most genuine, i mean i myself said that on day 1 and its why i told him to co-operate with town and tell us his targets. of course all of that on the basis of me thinking his ability is unlimited shots.

however what happened is he refused to use his ability so i got very sus over it. idk what mafia u play with but its soooo stupid for mafia to push a claimed hider start of the day if u truly think im mafia

i mean think about it. if blaze is town and i am mafia, then i know 100% blaze is not part of my faction and i know he is being genuine about his claim so why would i, ekko, who was perfectly hidden for the entire of day 1, suddenly... like an idiot... push the claimed hider and get myself lynched over it??

think sister thinkkk

The Hider role I'm accustomed to seems different than what is used on this site. I am used to seeing a Hider survive kills if they hide behind scum and die if they hide behind town. I have no idea why people are talking about Hider being able to instantly clear someone or prove someone is scum.

There wasn't anything in Blaze's posts where I thought 'wow this guy has unlimited Hider'. So if that was your first thought, that's on you. Besides, asking Blaze is your ability x-sot or unlimited, then waiting for an answer, would have been appropriate. Yet you seemed to rush Blaze, a newbie, and tried to suss them before they could properly explain. I'll be the first to admit that I had suss on Blaze and haven't loved there game, but this whole Hider stuff really seems like a newbie struggling to grasp their role and this game. Unless you think Blaze is some sort of mastermind first time player who is able to discuss a fake Hider claim so confidently?

Come on now Ekko, I ain't doing WIFOM on your meta. I'm an experienced enough player to know that scum worth their salt and switch things up and do different things. If we really want to discuss the subject, I think a newbie like Blaze bungling their claim and then going after them, especially in a case where you're scum and know Blaze is town, makes a lot of sense. Isn't Hider a dangerous threat to scum and hard to kill at night because of the uncertainty? of what they'll do? Then yeah, of course lynching the Hider would be the best way to go about getting rid of that role if that was possible. If you want to play some more hypothetical games as well, I could accuse you of fishing for Blaze's shot count on their Hider ability as well to see if lynching was the best plan, or if Blaze had burned their shot and was no longer a threat, or to see how many shots Blaze has exactly and then make a move at night based on that information.

 

[Ekkologix]

SA pls understand that what u did day 1 does not reflect on what ur doing day 2

ty

 

[August]

this is interesting
u guys town read each other?

she has no choice but to town read me

as for me, null read. but im the kind of player who loves taking risks

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Yeeting a dangerous but inactive player doesn't scream logical to me for scum. I feel like me or Jeff or even Barry (don't know how good he is) might have been bigger threats after D1.

Wildly inconsistent. I'm good enough to make it to end-game but not good enough to carry either team.

 

[Mox Girl]

Just know if you're gonna vote for him to bold it.

I haven't fully made up my mind yet but I'm leaning that way.

 

[Sister Abigail]

lmao my bad i talk a lot

if you see someone talking a lot in the all star game, you know who it is

D3 just ended there and it has 10000+ posts; too many people there talk too much.

 

[Doddsy]

So you admit you missed a lot of D1, so instead of putting in some effort and isoing players, you just want to 'pressure' inactives? Yeah, real convenient how you were the one to tell Blaze to hide behind Doddsy and Doddsy magically died and then you come on and give the narrative that scum shot Doddsy because they thought Blaze was going to hide behind Doddsy. So are you trying to say you're going to take credit or baiting scum into shooting Doddsy? Because why would scum think Blaze would listen to your suggestion if by your own admittance you weren't around a lot for D1?

If Vig hit Doddsy that means that Doctor correctly picked out who scum was targeting and protected them. In a twenty player game, my logic dictates that that is probably fairly unlikely. Also, that's a shit Vig kill and they should be ashamed if that's the case. Talking about a Vig killing Doddsy is Occam's Razor to me.

Why are you trying to push the narrative that scum is solely among the inactives? This is a 21-player game meaning there is probably four scum since SK was in the game; 15-5 town vs anti-town seems somewhat balanced. And yeah, excuse me for following the game and acting on what I read from actual players instead of just hoping that scum is in the inactives. It is the most common misquoted idea in Mafia that scum just hide among the inactives. That's just lazy and I know you're better than that.

I don't know what narrative you're trying to create or what goal you're trying to achieve, but the Doddsy kill reeks of some sort of plan and the fact that you were the only one to tell Blaze to hide behind Doddsy and then you were the first to try and dissect the Doddsy kill reeks like wolf to me.

I quite like both of these posts, town for me

 

[Ekkologix]

I actually like Ekko so I don't want to break them like I broke Juice. But to call me unoriginal with my posts is just a lie.

i will break u b4 u come close to breaking me

 

[Ekkologix]

Big brain plan by Mafia to cause confusion and let misdirecting narratives be written by wolves.

cool, misdirecting narratives like what exactly? please dont be vague

u think im a wolf with a narrative and big bad idea to destroy town

whats the idea? what do i gain from speculating the night kill? how does that benefit my scum team exactly?

100 words pls minimum

 

[Ekkologix]

also the doddsy kill is funny

because nobody talked about him last phase but ekko

but nobody knows ekko well enough here to try and frame him like that

ekko you can fess up if that doddsy kill was you

i dont think its frame, i think scum maybe thought hes a dangerous player, or an easy unprotected kill, or they wanted to waste a hider check, or it was a vig kill

lots of possibilities

 

[August]

D3 just ended there and it has 10000+ posts; too many people there talk too much.

ill give you 72 hours to guess then ill tell you

thats the deal

 

[Ekkologix]

Doddsy is a very skilled player here on WS, has risen many esteemed victories in his time. If he was the mafia's kill, then they would have some experienced players in their team knowing his potential danger to them. If he was the vig kill, then it could be someone eager to shoot their shot/s as ready as they want to (but with Blaze slightly hinting at hiding behind him, there's no town motive for the vig to shoot that way imo).

Scenario 1 - he was the mafia kill, which reveals not much, if anything.

Scenario 2 - he was the vig kill, which would suggest that the mafia were blocked - Barry hinted at being blocked when querying if Blaine went anywhere last night.

I'm going to mull on this further, and then do an iso of Mox Girl who has still not shared her other reads yet

good post tbh, looks good on u

 

[Sister Abigail]

this is a semi vanilla game. every single lynch counts. i swear nothing would please me more than flipping and telling you "I TOLD YOU SOO" but i also dont wanna game throw for my town faction so i will defend myself to the last second and i will try to steer the lynch to anyone i find consensually suspicious

if we dont pressure the inactives now then when are we going to? they will soon start to become trouble as the game continues and u will regret not pressuring them early on. again i didnt say lynch them, i just said get them to talk.

also you say my feeling that the actives are mostly townie isnt true yet u refuse to provide me with who u think are wolves among the active players. i mean i'm here asking u again for the 4th time, who u think is a bad active player?? other than me ofc cuz that's not original read and i am only active rn anyway. why do u keep throwing sht at me yet never wanna answer what i throw at you?

of course i ask the other players what they feel about the inactives. i wanna get a mutal consensus of the game state. i wanna work together and see where we move. i really dont understand your thought process. like what do u think is the ideal towny play here?

Hey, they wouldn't call you Sussop for nothing if you didn't defend to the death as scum, right? They say no one defends themselves harder as scum than you do.

Because the more I play in a game the better I start to read players. That surely happens with you as well, yeah? So as I play more and get better reads and hopefully flip some wolves, the game starts to really open up for me. I mean, it's D2 and you want me to focus on inactives which is just weird. Because if I do lynch scum then I'm left with a strong town core that will help me go after inactives then. If I simply go after inactives with no reads on them and lynch them and they flip town, well oopsy I'm left with only wolves. I'd rather interact with players that are active and either town or scum read them and then lynch accordingly from that pool. I've been playing Mafia for a long time and I've never just seen scum sit in the inactive pool. Are you honestly telling me this is the norm? Because I'll call you a liar if you do. I also never said ignore inactives for ever which is kind of what I think you're trying to paint here. I'm saying that on D2 when we had an active D1, there's enough information and activity from players to hunt there, not directly and firstly go to inactives, which you did. My issue is that in a game where you have admitted you didn't really read D1, instead of doing some work to catch up, you first just go to the inactives. Not really sure how going after inactives or Blaze's Hider claim would count as original thoughts from your perspective, yeah?

Yeah I think this makes you a bad active player because I'm not going to give my reads again to someone I think is scum. Want to know something? I'm not the one being pressured here, you are. You want my reads? ISO me and find them because I've made a lot. Barry even told you that saying I was parroting was incorrect yet you kept that narrative up. You don't understand my thought process? I THINK YOU ARE WOLF. Not really sure what's hard to understand here? Do you think I'm still parroting this case after witnessing me go this hard? If you actually want to work together, how about you do some townie stuff like catch up with the game and provide actual reads instead of just saying all inactives are scum and all actives are town.