Terminator Genisys: Rise of the Machines Mafia Game Thread

[August]

There's a 98% chance that I'm wrong, however. My assumptions are generally hilariously bad and wrong.

thats what i like to hear

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Are you people referring to a Fuji Vice from WC, if so, he already has an account here, and he has a long history on this site too.

 

[Ekkologix]

I actually think that the Hider claim was the most believable claim of them all in D1. Chris' Kill Investigation seems like bull shit. Juice's bluff obviously got her killed. And the Time Traveller one I do believe but I have never heard of the role before. When I saw Blaze discussing their Hider ability, I didn't think that they believed they had unlimited shots, yet you decided to draw that conclusion and push based off of that. If you really were unsure about Blaze, I think I would have confirmed the nature of shots with that role before pushing like you did. It just looked irresponsible and mishandled.

yea i agree hider claim seems the most genuine, i mean i myself said that on day 1 and its why i told him to co-operate with town and tell us his targets. of course all of that on the basis of me thinking his ability is unlimited shots.

however what happened is he refused to use his ability so i got very sus over it. idk what mafia u play with but its soooo stupid for mafia to push a claimed hider start of the day if u truly think im mafia

i mean think about it. if blaze is town and i am mafia, then i know 100% blaze is not part of my faction and i know he is being genuine about his claim so why would i, ekko, who was perfectly hidden for the entire of day 1, suddenly... like an idiot... push the claimed hider and get myself lynched over it??

think sister thinkkk

 

[Sister Abigail]

well i havent read a good portion of day 1 so i skipped lots of your posts yes BUT the reason why i actually remember the stuff about blaze is cuz I WAS the one that told him to hide behind doddsy. in fact doddsy was my biggest suspect last day so i wanted our hider to hide behind him.

SOOOO i was hella surprised when i saw doddsy die and was speculating why would mafia kill him... ofc it could be vig kill and simply mafia failed their kills, but how do i know?? i dont want vig to claim so imma just speculate and give my thoughts on the night kill.

mafia doesnt need to try to chess anything this game when players like u are against pressuring inactives. sorry to break it to u but all mafia need to do is grab some popcorn and watch townies lynch each others rly lol

SK is not part of the mafia faction so they dont rly care eitherway

So you admit you missed a lot of D1, so instead of putting in some effort and isoing players, you just want to 'pressure' inactives? Yeah, real convenient how you were the one to tell Blaze to hide behind Doddsy and Doddsy magically died and then you come on and give the narrative that scum shot Doddsy because they thought Blaze was going to hide behind Doddsy. So are you trying to say you're going to take credit or baiting scum into shooting Doddsy? Because why would scum think Blaze would listen to your suggestion if by your own admittance you weren't around a lot for D1?

If Vig hit Doddsy that means that Doctor correctly picked out who scum was targeting and protected them. In a twenty player game, my logic dictates that that is probably fairly unlikely. Also, that's a shit Vig kill and they should be ashamed if that's the case. Talking about a Vig killing Doddsy is Occam's Razor to me.

Why are you trying to push the narrative that scum is solely among the inactives? This is a 21-player game meaning there is probably four scum since SK was in the game; 15-5 town vs anti-town seems somewhat balanced. And yeah, excuse me for following the game and acting on what I read from actual players instead of just hoping that scum is in the inactives. It is the most common misquoted idea in Mafia that scum just hide among the inactives. That's just lazy and I know you're better than that.

 

[Sister Abigail]

Are all four or five scum members in this game really inactives, Ekko?

 

[August]

Are you people referring to a Fuji Vice from WC, if so, he already has an account here, and he has a long history on this site too.

nah some guy called fuji from the site me/ekko/pein are from

known to be stubborn so ekko is accusing her of being him

just ignore ekko lmao

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

There's a high probability at least two scum are among the more active users, tbh.

 

[Sister Abigail]

one thing that surprises me is that sister is still alive

would have 100% shot her if i was scum

if you're still alive by day 4 ima just assume you're a power wolf

I don't necessarily believe this is a bad post, but again, why the hell are you revealing again at an inopportune time? Because this just gives scum more ideas on how to play this game. Clearly they shot Doddsy and don't give a fuck about the more active players in this game. I would hope that if I make it to D4 in this game, either someone has checked me by now considering your own thoughts on my skill level, or that I've hunted a wolf by then.

 

[Sister Abigail]

sooo @Sister Abigail wanna talk about what this narrative i am trying to create is exactly?

im interested

I don't know what narrative you're trying to create or what goal you're trying to achieve, but the Doddsy kill reeks of some sort of plan and the fact that you were the only one to tell Blaze to hide behind Doddsy and then you were the first to try and dissect the Doddsy kill reeks like wolf to me.

 

[Brandon Blaze]

Trying to keep caught up here while playing a game Damn this is going fast right now.

 

[August]

I don't know what narrative you're trying to create or what goal you're trying to achieve, but the Doddsy kill reeks of some sort of plan and the fact that you were the only one to tell Blaze to hide behind Doddsy and then you were the first to try and dissect the Doddsy kill reeks like wolf to me.

lmao my bad i talk a lot

if you see someone talking a lot in the all star game, you know who it is

 

[Sister Abigail]

Doddsy is a very skilled player here on WS, has risen many esteemed victories in his time. If he was the mafia's kill, then they would have some experienced players in their team knowing his potential danger to them. If he was the vig kill, then it could be someone eager to shoot their shot/s as ready as they want to (but with Blaze slightly hinting at hiding behind him, there's no town motive for the vig to shoot that way imo).

Scenario 1 - he was the mafia kill, which reveals not much, if anything.

Scenario 2 - he was the vig kill, which would suggest that the mafia were blocked - Barry hinted at being blocked when querying if Blaine went anywhere last night.

I'm going to mull on this further, and then do an iso of Mox Girl who has still not shared her other reads yet

Yeeting a dangerous but inactive player doesn't scream logical to me for scum. I feel like me or Jeff or even Barry (don't know how good he is) might have been bigger threats after D1.

 

[Ekkologix]

We are in D2 it's not like inactives are going to make or break us at this exact point in time. However you chose that to be one of your focuses in this game. You keep saying all actives feel townie to you and I just feel like that isn't true. With the amount of action we got in D1, as well as a few wagons that had a bit of speed, there's enough among the actives in D2 to do some work there, not push and question other players about players with ten combined posts. If you had simply pushed and voted inactives then maybe I would have said null. But the fact that you asked another player what they felt about Ace, Tpein, and Chimp, just doesn't sit right with me because I don't have a read on any of them, you admitted that Ace only had two posts, but then tried to squeeze a read on Ace from someone else (I think maybe it was Tweet?). It just doesn't feel right.

this is a semi vanilla game. every single lynch counts. i swear nothing would please me more than flipping and telling you "I TOLD YOU SOO" but i also dont wanna game throw for my town faction so i will defend myself to the last second and i will try to steer the lynch to anyone i find consensually suspicious

if we dont pressure the inactives now then when are we going to? they will soon start to become trouble as the game continues and u will regret not pressuring them early on. again i didnt say lynch them, i just said get them to talk.

also you say my feeling that the actives are mostly townie isnt true yet u refuse to provide me with who u think are wolves among the active players. i mean i'm here asking u again for the 4th time, who u think is a bad active player?? other than me ofc cuz that's not original read and i am only active rn anyway. why do u keep throwing sht at me yet never wanna answer what i throw at you?

of course i ask the other players what they feel about the inactives. i wanna get a mutal consensus of the game state. i wanna work together and see where we move. i really dont understand your thought process. like what do u think is the ideal towny play here?

 

[Ekkologix]

Are all four or five scum members in this game really inactives, Ekko?

no we have one deep wolf, 2~3 coasters and 1~2 inactives

 

[Mox Girl]

Why are we talking about people from other sites? Can't we just concentrate on this game? It's confusing when some of you are talking about other people from other sites who aren't here.

BTW I know I've been asked for my thoughts but the only people I've really made up my mind on are Blaze & Barry (town leaning) and Ekko, who I've decided is more scum leaning. I said town before but since I was last here like 2 hours ago, he's flipped back and forth between aggressive and nice too much for my liking.