Roman Reigns being rejected

[Stopspot]

Just because Stone Cold said it, doesn't necessarily mean he's right either. Think you're using that as a way to claim that because he said it, it must be true.
Out of curiosity, who would be ready at this moment in your mind?

Who's to say what is right here? The fans who pay for the product (of which there are so many that it would be very hard to find one guy who is universally loved, every one has haters). Or industry veterans with experience of being in that position? Or Vince McMahon?

No one. No one outside of the established main event sphere is 100% ready. But there is nothing wrong with that. Closest out of the new generation is Rollins as a challenger, not a winner. But a challenger. He's established himself as a top act in the WWE since the split of the Shield. Carried the show on multiple occasions and proven that when put into PPV main events he delivers. Not to mention that he and Brock has chemistry. Not to mention that the mania fans would love to see Brock rip him to shreds.

Ziggler could have been had he not been misused for most of the year. So at the end of the day in my mind the final pick comes down to either Bryan, Orton, Cena or had the story between Lesnar and the Authority panned out differently Triple H comes off as good opponents for Brock at Mania.

I want Roman to succeed, but I also don't want him flying too close to the sun.

You don't buy your son a corvette until you know he can drive a Volvo.

 

[Just Kevin]

Just because Stone Cold said it, doesn't necessarily mean he's right either. Think you're using that as a way to claim that because he said it, it must be true.
Out of curiosity, who would be ready at this moment in your mind?

Ziggler is not only ready but was the person who was best set up to win the Rumble... from SS on he was building up a great story and WWE just threw it all away in favor of Reigns. Bryan and Reigns had both just came back from absences.. neither had put in the work to have a legitimate reason to win the Rumble.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Obviously I ain't the one to make the call. But I can only speak from my own perspective and viewpoints right?

And I personally do not consider Roman Reigns ready for the role bestowed upon him. He's 1 or 2 years from it in my mind.

Besides, it's not like it is just the IWC that says that Reigns isn't ready. Stone Cold himself has said it.

It's like Triple H said in 2013: The fans pick who they roll with. WWE throws guys out there to see what sticks and then adapt. Vince McMahon didn't pick Austin, the fans did. Just like the fans picked, Rock, Cena and Edge as top guys after. The fans will pick the top guys going forward.

Just seems incredibly arrogant to say things like "he's not ready"

Will he put on a good match or no? I lean to yes. It cannot be worse than Rock/Cena I or II. It won't be worse than Miz/Cena. People need to chill on the "he's not ready". Fans are so damn fickle lol

 

[CM Punk]

Who's to say what is right here? The fans who pay for the product (of which there are so many that it would be very hard to find one guy who is universally loved, every one has haters). Or industry veterans with experience of being in that position? Or Vince McMahon?

No one. No one outside of the established main event sphere is 100% ready. But there is nothing wrong with that. Closest out of the new generation is Rollins as a challenger, not a winner. But a challenger. He's established himself as a top act in the WWE since the split of the Shield. Carried the show on multiple occasions and proven that when put into PPV main events he delivers. Not to mention that he and Brock has chemistry. Not to mention that the mania fans would love to see Brock rip him to shreds.

Ziggler could have been had he not been misused for most of the year. So at the end of the day in my mind the final pick comes down to either Bryan, Orton, Cena or had the story between Lesnar and the Authority panned out differently Triple H comes off as good opponents for Brock at Mania.

I want Roman to succeed, but I also don't want him flying too close to the sun.

You don't buy your son a corvette until you know he can drive a Volvo.

Can we please not relate wrestling to weird car analogies that aren't even needed in this discussion? Alright cool.

Moving along, I'm not saying who's right or who's wrong. I'm saying just because Austin or others says that he's not ready doesn't necessarily mean that.
It's my right mind to believe that if Bryan didn't return, no one would complain as much about Roman Reigns winning or say that he's not ready.
Who is to say that CM Punk was ready in 2008 when he won his championship? Or that Daniel Bryan was ready in 2011?

The way Reigns has been booked the past year and a half all came to fruition at the Royal Rumble. Who is to say he's not ready? He's had decent/good matches during his single run. It was unfortunate that he got injured which halted his momentum, but he came back slightly improved in the promo area.
And people are expecting the worst out of this match, but I don't see that. There is no way this can be worse than Brock/Taker or Rock/Cena as D'Z said.

Again, this is WWE. They're never going to see Bryan as the face of the company, so to give him that match would be a waste.

 

[Stopspot]

Just seems incredibly arrogant to say things like "he's not ready"

Will he put on a good match or no? I lean to yes. It cannot be worse than Rock/Cena I or II. It won't be worse than Miz/Cena. People need to chill on the "he's not ready". Fans are so damn fickle lol

I just have another way of thinking I guess. Because I want Roman to be as polished and built as possible before being handed the crown. I would have spent better part of a year building him with a midcard title and developing a character/gimmick to make as large a part of the fanbase embrace him as possible. So that when he does get crowned king it becomes bigger than it is. It'll be the end of a emotional and trying journey.

Had Daniel Bryan circa 2010 closed out mania 30 it would have bombed. Same if 1992 Chris Benoit or Ruthless Aggression Cena had closed out their years. But the versions that did win their first mania main events didn't bomb. They elicited big reactions because of their connections with the fans and the context of their wins.

When I look at Roman Reigns. I as a fan only see half of that formula. He'll be conquering Brock Lesnar at the biggest stage of them all. But I have no reason to care about why he is doing this. Because Roman Reigns the singles act is non existent. Why should I care that this guy is facing Brock at mania?

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I just have another way of thinking I guess. Because I want Roman to be as polished and built as possible before being handed the crown. I would have spent better part of a year building him with a midcard title and developing a character/gimmick to make as large a part of the fanbase embrace him as possible. So that when he does get crowned king it becomes bigger than it is. It'll be the end of a emotional and trying journey.

Had Daniel Bryan circa 2010 closed out mania 30 it would have bombed. Same if 1992 Chris Benoit or Ruthless Aggression Cena had closed out their years. But the versions that did win their first mania main events didn't bomb. They elicited big reactions because of their connections with the fans and the context of their wins.

When I look at Roman Reigns. I as a fan only see half of that formula. He'll be conquering Brock Lesnar at the biggest stage of them all. But I have no reason to care about why he is doing this. Because Roman Reigns the singles act is non existent. Why should I care that this guy is facing Brock at mania?

Why should you care about anything? Maybe watch the build and then decide if you care to see him at Mania? We've seen one segment of build up and it was amazing.

 

[Stopspot]

The way Reigns has been booked the past year and a half all came to fruition at the Royal Rumble. Who is to say he's not ready? He's had decent/good matches during his single run. It was unfortunate that he got injured which halted his momentum, but he came back slightly improved in the promo area.
And people are expecting the worst out of this match, but I don't see that. There is no way this can be worse than Brock/Taker or Rock/Cena as D'Z said.

How has Reigns been booked this year? Because I don't remember any memorable feuds or angles from him once the Shield split up.And if we are basing it off of the Shield stuff there are 2 more guys who were part of that unit. Why aren't they in contention?

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

How has Reigns been booked this year? Because I don't remember any memorable feuds or angles from him once the Shield split up.And if we are basing it off of the Shield stuff there are 2 more guys who were part of that unit. Why aren't they in contention?

Reigns was always booked as the Kingpin of the Shield when it came down to getting shit done. No?

 

[Trip in the Head]

One of the things I noticed that kind of blows my mind is Daniel Bryan got injured and was out for what....6 months? He returned and his momentum was as high as ever (with the crowd anyway).

Reigns comes back from a 2 month absence - kills his momentum with the crowd. Sup with that?

 

[Stopspot]

Reigns was always booked as the Kingpin of the Shield when it came down to getting shit done. No?

And?
Does that mean that he has the better character or better track record?

 

[Danielson]

Add prophet to the list of amazing that is DB
3:30-4:30

NUFF SAID!

 

[CM Punk]

How has Reigns been booked this year? Because I don't remember any memorable feuds or angles from him once the Shield split up.And if we are basing it off of the Shield stuff there are 2 more guys who were part of that unit. Why aren't they in contention?

Lets see.
- He was in the WWE Championship ladder match
- He feuded with Orton in which he won
- He beat Rollins twice in single matches.
- He's beaten Kane and Show
- He speared HHH the night after Mania
- He got 12 eliminations in the Royal Rumble (Most to date)
- Most likely undefeated in Single matches as of last year till now

And what about Ambrose? He hasn't won a PPV since The Shield's breakup. What makes you think he would be a candidate for the Rumble win?
And Rollins is possibly getting his biggest push currently. He was in the WWE Championship match with two of the biggest stars in the company at Royal Rumble, no?
He's aligned with HHH, he has MITB, his future is already set in motion.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

And?
Does that mean that he has the better character or better track record?

And? You just asked why Reigns compared to the other two ffs.

 

[Danielson]

It doesnt matter how Reigns was booked in the shield. Since leaving his matches are pretty vanillia, followed by and injury(during which point he took acting classes) His first promo was terrible, following week he said a nursery rhyme. He is supposed to be a badass, but do you believe it? His singles career is the worst of the 3 in every aspect besides the rocket shoved up his ass.

It doesn't matter though, he is the guy.

Believe that

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

It doesnt matter how Reigns was booked in the shield. Since leaving his matches are pretty vanillia, followed by and injury(during which point he took acting classes) His first promo was terrible, following week he said a nursery rhyme. He is supposed to be a badass, but do you believe it? His singles career is the worst of the 3 in every aspect besides the rocket shoved up his ass.

You are looking at this entirely too smarky. Look at the list of kayfabe shit Punk just posted. He has done a lot more than Rollins or Ambrose in that capacity.