Mike Santana no longer part of AEW

[Smart Marx]

Miro is actually kind of perfect for TNA, he loves working once a month

Then I think he’d love MLW even more because I think TNA do work three or four times over the span of a week but MLW they literally do both tapings on the same day.

 

[Cwalker]

He might’ve. I don’t think I specifically heard that story but like if you hear the way, he talks about it and then Konnan who is very close to Santana has also spoken on this, but it’s basically confirmed that he got disillusion that him and Ortiz were ever going to win the tag titles so he wanted him and Ortiz to leave but Ortiz said no I got a family and I’m getting a good paycheck. That’s honestly rather unfortunate how fast things fracture a relationship.

Jeff also mentioned his drinking and that probably played a role.

Maybe it was Konnan but I could’ve sworn somebody around PnP tweeted or went on a podcast where they said they were gonna win the tag titles on an episode of Dynamite

 

[Chris]

Maybe it was Konnan but I could’ve sworn somebody around PnP tweeted or went on a podcast where they said they were gonna win the tag titles on an episode of Dynamite

Ortiz said there were two times they were penciled in to win them but plans changed. He didn't go into specifics and said he wouldn't be

 

[Cwalker]

I low key wish Ricky Starks stayed in NWA back in 2020, but I totally get why he went to AEW and he's arguably better off for it.

He could be fighting Seth for the belt right now

 

[Smart Marx]

Maybe it was Konnan but I could’ve sworn somebody around PnP tweeted or went on a podcast where they said they were gonna win the tag titles on an episode of Dynamite

I mean it’s possible, but that would add to the issue if they were going to and then it just didn’t happen.

 

[Cwalker]

Ortiz said there were two times they were penciled in to win them but plans changed. He didn't go into specifics and said he wouldn't be

Okay I knew I wasn’t tripping

 

[Comrade Khan]

All the above.

Throw Ricky Starks in there too cause he should be a World Champion somewhere imo

he just got a nice tag title run, and got to work with a bunch of top talent this year. I actually think the Ricky should be world champ is overblown imo. I dislike this world champ or nothing mentality (not saying you are like this btw, just a general criticism )

 

[Smart Marx]

Okay I knew I wasn’t tripping

That makes me feel for Santana, even more than because if you were told twice, you were gonna win the belts and both times you had the rug pulled out from under you. I would probably say yeah Ortiz let’s go somewhere else.

 

[Cwalker]

he just got a nice tag title run, and got to work with a bunch of top talent this year. I actually think the Ricky should be world champ is overblown imo. I dislike this world champ or nothing mentality (not saying you are like this btw, just a general criticism )

I’m with you. And I’m definitely not like that.

I think he has World Championship potential but there’s some many people ahead of him on the depth chart.

That’s why I think he’s be better off fighting for the B or C World Championship in WWE. Main Event of Monday Night Raw weekly wouldn’t be a bad gig

 

[Smart Marx]

I think Tank Miro had that aura fwiw but I do think his ceiling is upper card gatekeeper

To be fair this is in Line with what I was also thinking. It’s like I’ve I’ve said a couple of times but I don’t think Miro would’ve been your five time world champion having 9 month runs but he would’ve been your big show. That’s your giant monster, that every once in a blue moon, you put the belt on them, so a baby can beat them for the belt.

 

[Comrade Khan]

That makes me feel for Santana, even more than because if you were told twice, you were gonna win the belts and both times you had the rug pulled out from under you. I would probably say yeah Ortiz let’s go somewhere else.

all perspective, lots of people would be pretty happy taking the stable tv time.

and these rumors are always dangerously one sided. ''we were supposed to win the belts a few times but stuff came up and i cant really or wont talk about the whys'' . to me that means there could have been perfectly reasonable reasons as to why but its framed as if AEW fucked them yknow

 

[Smart Marx]

all perspective, lots of people would be pretty happy taking the stable tv time.

and these rumors are always dangerously one sided. ''we were supposed to win the belts a few times but stuff came up and i cant really or wont talk about the whys'' . to me that means there could have been perfectly reasonable reasons as to why but its framed as if AEW fucked them yknow

And the paycheck which is why i don’t vilify Ortiz either.

 

[Deezy]

Come to NXT.......be named Pampero Firpo jr.

 

[Comrade Khan]

I’m with you. And I’m definitely not like that.

I think he has World Championship potential but there’s some many people ahead of him on the depth chart.

That’s why I think he’s be better off fighting for the B or C World Championship in WWE. Main Event of Monday Night Raw weekly wouldn’t be a bad gig

yeah im with u here, murderers row at the top in aew its crazy

 

[Comrade Khan]

And the paycheck which is why i don’t vilify Ortiz either.

money for less bumps is what some ppl like, others wantr the fame. i get it