Like the title says, Cena is the best worker in professional wrestling today. Anybody that says otherwise, doesn't understand the sole concept of pro wrestling. I'm willing to debate any poster who attempts to dispute this.
John Cena is the best wrestler today
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Well, there's more depth to it than this, but simply put, the sole concept of professional wrestling has always been to entertain the most audience as possible whilst making the most possible money. A wrestlers job to bring their repective promotion money. Thus, who does this best (bringing in the most revenue), is the best wrestler. Nothing more, nothing less.
Does everybody generally agree with this train of thought and therefore agree that John Cena is the best wrestler currently, or if you do not, please try to disprove it.
lol, this was debated at least 20000000000000000000000000000000000 times. those who like Cena will agree, those who doesn't , won't.
welcome to my ''ignore list''.
welcome to my ''ignore list''.
I'm on your "ignore list" becasue Iv'e tried to start desperately needed discussion and didn't explore one hundred pages ago? Those who don't like Cena and won't agree are wrong though, which was the point of the thread - to teach them why they're wrong. If any one can apply an ounce of objectivety, they'd agree that Cena is the best worker right now.
Why are you so sour if I did re-start an old debate considering i'm fairly new. Who the hell cares anyway? I'll jot you down on my "hard headed, ignorant, and massively blind list".
Why are you so sour if I did re-start an old debate considering i'm fairly new. Who the hell cares anyway? I'll jot you down on my "hard headed, ignorant, and massively blind list".
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By your logic, Meet the Spartans was a good movie. It made a lot of money, and reached a lot of audience. Therefore it's good.
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First off, this doesn't mean that I don't agree with you, but you trying to establish the fact that everybody that dont agree that Cena is the best is wrong, then that's just...wrong.
Going by the standards that you set to qualify how good a wrestler is, then you are right, Cena might be the best wrestler today (altough him being Number One on all of those categories you set as qualifiers is debatable), but this goes back to an old argument in here:
Why would us, as a fan, would care if X wrestler makes Vince Mcmahon money or sells merchandise?
No, determining how good a wrestler is and determining how good a film is is not a valid comparison. With a film, an audience does not know what he or she is getting, they just go by what they deem interesting through commercials and advertisments. They may or may not like and be entertained the movie.
Whereas with professional wrestling, the draw is the most entertaining. Fans turning over their money to watch a wrestler is directly proportional to the entertainment value of the wrestler. The fans wouldn't give over their money on a consistent basis to not be enetertained. And, since wrestling is purely about entertainment, then the draw (in this case, Cena) is the best.
See the difference?
You shouldn't care who's the biggest draw, everbody has their personal preference, but when discussing the best wrestler, you've got to be objective and say the wrestler who's doing the best at his job is, well, the best. In this case, Cena is the best - by bringing in money - which clearly indicates entertainment - the very basis of what wrestling is. See what I mean?
The Rated R CMStar
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You're wrong in that. Just because John Cena brings in the more money doesn't mean he is the man who provides more entertainment. In his case, it just means that the specific demograph he appeals invests more money into the WWE.
And again, you've got it all wrong. That's indeed what wrestling is all about...if you are the booker or the businessman behind all of it. You're a fan, you get no profit whatsoever, so when you are judging wrestling, things as bringing in money shouldn't be the prime aspect to check. If you were Vince McMahon, your logic would be correct, but as a fan, it doesn't.
See it like this, David Beckham brought to the LA Galaxy a shit load of money and a shitload of fans, does that make him the best soccer player in the MLS?
MikeRaw
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He's up there. Not the best though.
The thing about Cena, is he is too underrated, and as a result, too overrated.
People think just cause he's not a technical specialist, or because he's aimed at kids, that he sucks. They underrated him. But at the same time, Cena supported blow the "work ethic" thing out of proportion. Work ethic is great, but then supporters of Cena take it and blow it out of proportion, acting as if work ethic is the only important thing.
It's hard to see where Cena truly stands, because people are always either too far underrating or overrating him. People who come in saying "I'm not even a Cena fan, but you cant' deny blah blah blah" end up overratign him anyways.
He's near the top, and underrated by too many people, but he's also overrated by others. I wouldn't say he's the best though. He's not the only guy with a work ethic.
The thing about Cena, is he is too underrated, and as a result, too overrated.
People think just cause he's not a technical specialist, or because he's aimed at kids, that he sucks. They underrated him. But at the same time, Cena supported blow the "work ethic" thing out of proportion. Work ethic is great, but then supporters of Cena take it and blow it out of proportion, acting as if work ethic is the only important thing.
It's hard to see where Cena truly stands, because people are always either too far underrating or overrating him. People who come in saying "I'm not even a Cena fan, but you cant' deny blah blah blah" end up overratign him anyways.
He's near the top, and underrated by too many people, but he's also overrated by others. I wouldn't say he's the best though. He's not the only guy with a work ethic.
Hold on, so the fans that are willingly handing over their hard earned money are doing so to not be entertained?
Firstly, piss bucket comparison. You can't compare that, much like movies. Are you not comprhending that the best wrestler is the most entertianing? I said IF you discuss the best, the best would be the most entertaining - got it?
Btw, thanks for not spamming the thread with flames and debating correctly.
Mike Raw, while I largely agree, you can't say the only good quality Cena has is work ethic. How about the deeper aspects of pro-wrestling? Cena has great story telling, in-ring phychology, work rate, selling, and charisma. Out of the ring he has great promo ability.