Alexander Hammerstone requests MLW release: MLW does not intend to grant it

[Comrade Khan]

for sure he could be lying but with Court Bauers track record and the rest of the sketchiness around the company right now, I tend to believe him

 

[Smart Marx]

I dont see how he looks bad at all in this tbh, people are allowed to ask for their release and companies are within their rights to say no. if they are ghosting him and refusing to book him for asking, then yeah, he's kind of allowed to tell his fans in respectful ways. certainly more respectful than the stuff MLW put out about him imo. hes also made a lot of tweets where he praised his time there. so ya agree to disagree here, Hammerstone is not in the wrong here imo at all

Yeah, we’ll never agree on this take. Contracts are toilet paper if talent aren’t willing to honor them.

Ask for shorter term deals if you don’t want to commit or stay a freelance talent. I’ll die on this hill. I defended Tony and AEW when he got flack for this too.

 

[Comrade Khan]

if this was happening in Impact I would be giving Impact the benefit of the doubt - for example. unfortunately MLW has a long record of being sketchy as fuck

 

[Comrade Khan]

Yeah, we’ll never agree on this take. Contracts are toilet paper if talent aren’t willing to honor them.

Ask for shorter term deals if you don’t want to commit or stay a freelance talent. I’ll die on this hill. I defended Tony and AEW when he got flack for this too.

read my post again , I literally say the have the right to say no. What is not ok is ghosting talent and refusing to book them because they asked for a release. That's not professional, that becomes personal. As does going to the sheets to say the refused his request while telling him the opposite. He does also say there's a possibility its a miscommunication. Contracts are not toilet paper but they also aren't meant to be prison sentences, either. there is a middle ground for doing business the right way. If I didn't want to grant someone a release I wouldn't treat them poorly, either, I would show them on what they are missing out on. especially when its your cash cow

 

[Smart Marx]

read my post again , I literally say the have the right to say no. What is not ok is ghosting talent and refusing to book them because they asked for a release. That's not professional, that becomes personal. As does going to the sheets to say the refused his request while telling him the opposite. He does also say there's a possibility its a miscommunication. Contracts are not toilet paper but they also aren't meant to be prison sentences, either. there is a middle ground for doing business the right way. If I didn't want to grant someone a release I wouldn't treat them poorly, either, I would show them on what they are missing out on. especially when its your cash cow

I’m not gonna comment on the second part because you can’t take a disgruntled talent at face value. It might be true, it might not be true.

MLW could have been contiplating his release. You wouldn’t keep booking a talent if you were originally going to release them and perhaps something else happened in the meantime. The Samoan Swat Team were taken off TV ages ago and finally got their release. Court probably likes to wait like WWE does before letting them go. It’s hard to say.

My main point is he should have rode out his deal since the man got a monster push with them. The least he could do is ride out 2024 and be the feee agent story of 2025 instead of whatever this is.

And again I’ll disagree on the prison sentence comparison. You voluntarily agreed to the terms. It’s not a prison sentence. It’s an arrangement that if I book you a certain way or pay you a certain amount I don’t have to worry about you leaving me early. If an early release can be worked, that’s great, but I don’t agree that’s part of standard procedure.

We don’t know the whole story, but if Court is not properly communicating with Hammer, that’s entirely on him. Like I said both are not being professional, in my personal opinion. At this point Court probably should just release him unless him and Hammer can agree to better terms for him to stay. Use him or let him go. I agree on that much.

 

[Comrade Khan]

I think you give Court way, way too much benefit of the doubt given their history and I will leave it at that. If you think what Hammer did here is bad, that's fine, but to me he did the tamest stuff and just because you sign a contract doesn't mean you have to be quiet and shut the fuck up the entire time if you are getting dicked around.

 

[JakeYourBooty]

Yeah Cort has a history of being a turdball

 

[Smart Marx]

I think you give Court way, way too much benefit of the doubt given their history and I will leave it at that. If you think what Hammer did here is bad, that's fine, but to me he did the tamest stuff and just because you sign a contract doesn't mean you have to be quiet and shut the fuck up the entire time if you are getting dicked around.

Perhaps I am, but I also don’t think you put yourselves in the shoes of the being trying to run these companies, tbh. I’m not even saying one side is bad. I’m saying both fucked up because even if Court is ducking Hammer around, it’s only because the guy you booked like a monster champion for 600 days asked for a release the day he dropped the belt. I couldn’t tell you how upset that would probably make me in that situation.

Mind you I’d still communicate with him. But considering the Swat Team got their release this month, it’s hard to say what was going to happen here.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Perhaps I am, but I also don’t think you put yourselves in the shoes of the being trying to run these companies, tbh. I’m not even saying one side is bad. I’m saying both fucked up because even if Court is ducking Hammer around, it’s only because the guy you booked like a monster champion for 600 days asked for a release the day he dropped the belt. I couldn’t tell you how upset that would probably make me in that situation.

Mind you I’d still communicate with him. But considering the Swat Team got their release this month, it’s hard to say what was going to happen here.

I don't really care to put myself in people like Court's shoes and I don't think he has done business the right way very often. I don't really care that Swat Team got their release because of course they did, no one cares about them, apples and oranges. Again I am not saying he should grant the release, but if you are going to smear the guy to the dirt sheets, you can't really have the high ground anymore right? The fact he was booked good yesterday is irrelevant to all talent too for the most part, if you are not booking me today and not booking me tomorrow, you are wasting an asset. Now does that mean that asset should be granted a release every time, of course not. But you can't really play the shocked pikachu and you are ungrateful card either as a promoter. You also can't expect others to not take things public when you yourself take things public. If Alex was smearing the company and saying he was treated poorly and that he was above MLW, I would understand taking management side more, but that is just not the case here.

 

[Smart Marx]

I don't really care to put myself in people like Court's shoes and I don't think he has done business the right way very often. I don't really care that Swat Team got their release because of course they did, no one cares about them, apples and oranges. Again I am not saying he should grant the release, but if you are going to smear the guy to the dirt sheets, you can't really have the high ground anymore right? The fact he was booked good yesterday is irrelevant to all talent too for the most part, if you are not booking me today and not booking me tomorrow, you are wasting an asset. Now does that mean that asset should be granted a release every time, of course not. But you can't really play the shocked pikachu and you are ungrateful card either as a promoter. You also can't expect others to not take things public when you yourself take things public. If Alex was smearing the company and saying he was treated poorly and that he was above MLW, I would understand taking management side more, but that is just not the case here.

I think you are failing to grasp the timeline. He wasn’t booked badly at any point prior to asking for his release.

It’s honestly hard to have this discussion without knowing the full story. You’re coming from a Hammer’s side is 100% correct. And maybe it is. But the thing is even he doesn’t know if he is. He even said it might be miscommunication. He was taken off the video materials and everything so Court could have been preparing to grant the release. If that’s the case you wouldn’t book him in the meantime. No point in doing that.

Now if he’s not planning on releasing and not planning on booking him again, that’s stupid. Court is wasting an asset. I agreed.

This would be happening though if he didn’t ask for a release because he dropped the belt. I think if this was anyone else I don’t think this would even have the same weight, but it would be like if Roman Reigns asked for him release as soon as he drops the belt to Cody. I would be so mad if I was Hunter and Vince. You motherfucker lol

As for the dirts, isn’t the only it said was Hammer asked for his release? Did they say something else I missed?

 

[Comrade Khan]

I think you are failing to grasp the timeline. He wasn’t booked badly at any point prior to asking for his release.

It’s honestly hard to have this discussion without knowing the full story. You’re coming from a Hammer’s side is 100% correct. And maybe it is. But the thing is even he doesn’t know if he is. He even said it might be miscommunication. He was taken off the video materials and everything so Court could have been preparing to grant the release. If that’s the case you wouldn’t book him in the meantime. No point in doing that.

Now if he’s not planning on releasing and not planning on booking him again, that’s stupid. Court is wasting an asset. I agreed.

This would be happening though if he didn’t ask for a release because he dropped the belt. I think if this was anyone else I don’t think this would even have the same weight, but it would be like if Roman Reigns asked for him release as soon as he drops the belt to Cody. I would be so mad if I was Hunter and Vince. You motherfucker lol

As for the dirts, isn’t the only it said was Hammer asked for his release? Did they say something else I missed?

I dunno man you seem to be basing your argument that it's wrong to ask for your release so I just can't vibe with that.

the sheets sais hammer asked for his release and that MLW told them they had no intention of granting it. so obviously its MLW who told the sheets that...

 

[Comrade Khan]

and we don't know he asked for his release right after he dropper the belt, its MLW framing it that way, not him. From what he is saying is he hasn't been booked in months. the story of his release is not even weeks old.

 

[Smart Marx]

I dunno man you seem to be basing your argument that it's wrong to ask for your release so I just can't vibe with that.

the sheets sais hammer asked for his release and that MLW told them they had no intention of granting it. so obviously its MLW who told the sheets that...

I said from the beginning we wouldn’t agree. I think contracts are there for a reason. Especially if you’re the top guy who was champion for 600 days. I can’t side with you if you’re leaving because you out over the next top guy and you can’t just be a headliner in a slightly lower level. Jacob Fatu has always had something to do since losing the belt.

We don’t know who in MLW told the sheets, but my point is they only confirmed his asked for his release. You said they smeared him or something. They simply stated the facts of what happened.

 

[Smart Marx]

and we don't know he asked for his release right after he dropper the belt, its MLW framing it that way, not him. From what he is saying is he hasn't been booked in months. the story of his release is not even weeks old.

He dropped the belt about 100 days ago. He hasn’t been booked since.

 

[Smart Marx]

Alex Kane has been MLW Champion for 121 days.