AEW Dynamite May 3rd, 2023: MJF and Sammy Guevara vs Darby Allin and Jack Perry

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Your second paragraph summed up my point. If three rules is too complex we just fundamentally disagree.

No new match can realistically be created without at least 3 rules separating it from the other 80 matches.

And yes, King of the Mountain can also be explained in 20-30 seconds. You need a pin to be eligible to win, if you are pinned you take a timeout, hang the belt to win the match and the title.

It’s fine. We can disagree. I’ve had this discussion before with others. I think simplicity is vastly overrated.
Isn't there a time-out cage or whatever in the King of the Mountain match? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong match type that Impact has.
 

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Isn't there a time-out cage or whatever in the King of the Mountain match? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong match type that Impact has.
There is. That’s the timeout I’m talking about.

You get pinned, you go in there for a minute.

It adds to the strategy. The person who pinned them can now climb the ladder while they’re in the cage.

They honestly only added a pin and a penalty to a standard ladder match.
 

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Your second paragraph summed up my point. If three rules is too complex we just fundamentally disagree.

No new match can realistically be created without at least 3 rules separating it from the other 80 matches.

And yes, King of the Mountain can also be explained in 20-30 seconds. You need a pin to be eligible to win, if you are pinned you take a timeout, hang the belt to win the match and the title.

It’s fine. We can disagree. I’ve had this discussion before with others. I think simplicity is vastly overrated.
depends what you mean by new match types, because 99% of the time a new match type is just an extra stip thrown onto an already established match type. like that mma cage match aew had was just a cage match with an octogon shape
 

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I don't find the king of the mountain complicated fwiw, just too silly for me. It's very Impact though
 

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I don't find the king of the mountain complicated fwiw, just too silly for me. It's very Impact though
Honestly, it's not a match I think I ever enjoyed watching Granted I might have watched 3 or 4 that have ever happened. But they've always seemed sloppy to me.
 

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I invented a match that I think would cause aneurysms.

If I ever have a company, I’d probably try it.

It’s basically a 6-way round Robin in a single match.



In order to be eliminated you need to take a fall from all of the remaining opponents in the match.

If someone is eliminated and you’ve now been beaten by everyone remaining, you are automatically out of the match.

In order to win you need a fall over all of your
opponents and be the last one remaining.
 
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I invented a match that I think would cause aneurysms.

If I ever have a company, I’d probably try it.

It’s basically a 6-way round Robin in a single match.



In order to be eliminated you need to take a fall from all of the remaining opponents in the match.

If someone is eliminated and you’ve now been beaten by everyone remaining, you are automatically out of the match.

In order to win you need a fall over all of your
opponents and be the last one remaining.
DDT has done something like this
 

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It would be like survival of the fittest too where there’d be 6 qualifiers first and that’s the finals.
 

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I have a love/hate relationship with KOTM, I don't really care for the rules as a concept but I can't deny I've generally thought most I've seen were downright great matches
 

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I could take or leave the penalty box, but I think needing a win over someone to climb the ladder really ups the stakes in KOTM.

The only reason I don’t hate the box is it can theoretically be used for strategy if you pin the r last person available to stop you etc.
 

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They may offer yo a job. DDT has had some stupid wreslting match types
I honestly think if executed right it could be a great way to reward someone with a title shot.

It would probably be like an hour match with crazy spots and bumps to get 5 falls a piece.
 
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