AEW All Out 2022 Media Scrum and fallout Megathread *DYNAMITE SPOILERS*

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Sorry bud, next time I'll just say "you're so right, I agree" when I don't think a criticism is fair since that's all anyone wants to hear anyway I guess

Wait how did I get Chris upset with me?


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Didn't you say people were blowing smoke up people's ass for not thinking Khan 100% sucks? Also you didn't even respond to Jeff's points. There is signs AEW has grown but you refused to acknowledge them
No, I said "You can’t just use the “bad faith” argument whenever someone asks real questions instead of just blowing smoke up Tony’s ass."

I never meant to imply that Tony Khan 100% sucks. Far from it. He's obviously a nice guy, and I think he's done some good things, like the recent hotel story, his work with charities (Martha Hart's comes to mind immediately) as well as the fact that it's clear the man has an absolutely ardent passion for professional wrestling. At the same time, there are things he can do better, and being above criticism isn't going to help him realize that.
 

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You all can’t be happy with the W?


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Oh wait I 40’ed to quick


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I do genuinely feel bad if we've ran off another one of your friends you brought back :lol just not enough to give a non-sarcastic apology and idc if Fuji hates it here or not personally
 

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No, I said "You can’t just use the “bad faith” argument whenever someone asks real questions instead of just blowing smoke up Tony’s ass."

I never meant to imply that Tony Khan 100% sucks. Far from it. He's obviously a nice guy, and I think he's done some good things, like the recent hotel story, his work with charities (Martha Hart's comes to mind immediately) as well as the fact that it's clear the man has an absolutely ardent passion for professional wrestling. At the same time, there are things he can do better, and being above criticism isn't going to help him realize that.

You can't call bad faith arguments when you are doing the same. New tv deals are a sign the company is growing because where does most of the money come from? TV. Their biggest pay check will come from the network resigning them so if they get more TV they are likely growing.

None of us know their finances. Is TK perfect? Fuck no. But acting like AEW isn't growing and doing well is false imo. Could they do better? Yes. Are they failing? God no. And I'm pretty sure when TV deal time comes around, they will be getting a lot more money. Most starts up also struggle to make profit early on
 

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No bc he never responded to what I disagreed with once, he just kept going back and forth with Jeff about whether one was a bad faith criticizer and the other was a Tony simp instead lol
 

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I do genuinely feel bad if we've ran off another one of your friends you brought back :lol just not enough to give a non-sarcastic apology and idc if Fuji hates it here or not personally

Oh he’s not leaving me, he’ll do BOTS


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No bc he never responded to what I disagreed with once, he just kept going back and forth with Jeff about whether one was a bad faith criticizer and the other was a Tony simp instead lol
he didn't address any of my points either, just move goals posts. no regrets, im just a dumb white knight sycophant anyways!
 

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You can't call bad faith arguments when you are doing the same. New tv deals are a sign the company is growing because where does most of the money come from? TV. Their biggest pay check will come from the network resigning them so if they get more TV they are likely growing.

None of us know their finances. Is TK perfect? Fuck no. But acting like AEW isn't growing and doing well is false imo. Could they do better? Yes. Are they failing? God no. And I'm pretty sure when TV deal time comes around, they will be getting a lot more money. Most starts up also struggle to make profit early on
Believe me, I know all too well how difficult it is to make money as a start up. Then again, I also didn't have the backing of a billionaire father when I started my business, so in a way I'm probably just jealous of Tony for being richer than I am. On the flip side, I think I can drink out of a water bottle more normally than him, so who's the real winner eh?:lol

I do think the addition of the reality show is a sign that they're probably going to come out ok in the next round of television negotiations, which I do agree is the clearest indicator of their growth. We shall see how things shake out whenever that's finished, which I imagine should be soon considering the deal expires this year. I believe they're pulling 40+ million from WBD at the moment, so anything above that can only be seen as a win.

I also wasn't calling anything the other guy with the cool name was saying a "bad faith argument". I was just trying to say that my original intention here was not to be arguing in bad faith, or to concern troll (that term sucks and should be retired immediately) but rather to address concerns I had over Tony trying to take on too much responsibility and how that may affect the operation of the business. That's really all it was. No hidden agenda.

By the way, I remember you from WC. Good to see you here.