WWE RAW 14th November 2011 - LIVE RAW GETS ROCKED Discussion

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It is pretty clear for most of the card. Mason Ryan has clearly been booked as a face yet no-one reacts, Hunico has clearly been booked as a heel yet no-one reacts. Too many fans trying to be cool by doing the opposite and not conforming.

Ryan whose had no storyline since coming in what so ever?

Hunico who everyone preferred as Sin Cara but now is an overused racist Mexican Stereotype?
 

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Sheamus is in the ring and he will face Jack Swagger.
 

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But the thing the WWE is always predictable, maybe if they surprised the fans they would react but what's the point in reacting if you can see everything coming? Plus it was painful.
 

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Swagger about to get ran over.
 

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It is pretty clear for most of the card. Mason Ryan has clearly been booked as a face yet no-one reacts, Hunico has clearly been booked as a heel yet no-one reacts. Too many fans trying to be cool by doing the opposite and not conforming.
It doesn't work like that. You can't just tell people to cheer or boo someone, you have to be able to emotionally invest in someone.
 

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I'm glad that piece of shit segment is finally over. I really can't blame the fans Troy it was god awful and painful to watch Foley try and put Cena over as a face more. Really what a waste.

I agree the segment just didn't work with Cena involved you could tell that Cena knew it would happen too. The guests weren't good aside from his dad I mean really Bull Buchanan...
 

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Ryan whose had no storyline since coming in what so ever?

Hunico who everyone preferred as Sin Cara but now is an overused racist Mexican Stereotype?

He has had a storyline built the past two months where he first came out to help Swagger and Ziggler but then he turned on them going face. Ever since then he has been face and he has defeated Ziggler before.

Hunico who has turned on one of the most popular wrestlers on Smackdown and has set his sights on injuring him along with two other heels making it 3 on 1.
 

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Sheamus/Swagger is a great match for Raw.
 

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It doesn't work like that. You can't just tell people to cheer or boo someone, you have to be able to emotionally invest in someone.

But fans are there to take part in the show and most of these fans seem to want to sit on their hands. WWE has booked most of these people okay but it seems like tonights crowd is only there for Rock and Foley. They don't care about the midcarders even though most are on tv every week.
 

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As for that this is your life segment should have been given a better reason as to why it happened but overall I didn't mind it even though it kind of dragged. That's pretty much how the Rock one went however.
 

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Back to the match and Sheamus has control over Swagger.

Not much wrestling so far tonight.
 

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Maybe if WWE made Mid Carders seem more important then the fans would care.
 

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He has had a storyline built the past two months where he first came out to help Swagger and Ziggler but then he turned on them going face. Ever since then he has been face and he has defeated Ziggler before.

Hunico who has turned on one of the most popular wrestlers on Smackdown and has set his sights on injuring him along with two other heels making it 3 on 1.

The first wasn't a storyline it was him turning in one match after that they did nothing with him he's not cut a promo or had any backstage segments related to it. Thats not a storyline that's him randomly changing alignment. I'm not cheering for a wrestler who looks like a Batista knockoff who doesn't talk or show emotion or hell even wrestle a good match just because one week he attacked a couple of heels.

Hunico I wont comment on because I don't follow Smackdown but from what I've seen on RAW I've no reason to care about him.