WWE Network is failing big time

[Red Rain]

I think they overjumped their boundaries. 667k isn't too bad considering they basically did a preview of the company for free for a very short period of time. What they need to do now is move more towards a ppv/the recording style of tv (cant remember the name) and let people choose what they want to watch, when they want to.

No one wants to turn on their online subscription and be told what they are going to watch, the entire concept should be based on control. Give me option on stars, matches, reigns, and feuds and I would gladly do it. Let's be honest, 10$ a month is dirt fucking cheap, and the main issue is that WWE needs to put this fucking thing to the adults instead of the 11 year old kids who beg their parents for it. If the kid is watching it after school and before bed, you have 2-3 hours max, with them not being interested in anything passed what they liked.

Now change that to unlimited ownership? Guys as old as Senhor are gonna be juiced to watch 1987 matches (when he was in high school) and possibly even watching it with their kids. You sell that, you can resell andre the giant and hoke ogan dolls, Ultimate warrior dolls could have been cashed in on like no ones business instead of expecting people to watch a fucking DVD for 60$ on his deal. If you want to really go for this market, WWE needs to go 100%. Heyman and WCW shit has to be accessable, and there need to be more biographies. I am not interested personally atm for only those reasons, as I piss 10$ (and how many of us dont? TGMI probably pisses 10 fucking dollars ffs) daily and would have 0 issue on the matches if they really gave 100% towards the fan. No, I don't even need DZ to be pushed or Zack Ryder (as an individual fan) what i need is the power between shows to be able to relive the experiences I really enjoyed, while having it somehow be connected to the modern era.

For Example, you watch an HBK heart pants 1994 biography on the matches, but halfway through there is a short commercial (and it better be the only one) letting me know there is a great interview with him on who he see's as replacing him in the future. That connects the users past to the present, while allowing WWE users to really look into the future without having to shove it down my throat. If I want to see HBK, sure, i'd love to see 25 minutes with a commercial in the middle on his training of Daniel Bryan and including their feud throughout the last 4 minutes. It would be a great way to connect the past to the present, and really give me a reason for a parent whose kid is a huge cena fan see why their dad loved Yokozuna, even if it only mildly relates.

I know it's a stretch, but to me the extra entertainment would make a lot of sense. Explain how Jerry the King was a great champion before he took power, where Paul Heyman got his start, why WWE beat WCW in the long stretch, and how guys like Austin were not always Stone Cold.

I'm intrigued by what Aids said. Part of the beauty of the internet is that we choose our entertainment.
I'd say 100% of the reason I don't even watch regular TV is because people choose all the shows for me
I f***ing hate it when I get used to a show only for the network to 'switch things up'. It p*sses me off

 

[Aids Johnson]

@GOAT Johnson

what do you mean, ppv/the recording style of tv, I put it into my Aids dictionary but even that failed :dawg:

What they need is to put content on people want to watch. I bet <1k of their 667k subscribers subscribed just to watch Legends house.

I bet you more douchebags torrented the shit than paid for it.

What I meant was have the option of watching what you want, when you want to, instead of pushing these shit ass shows down the throats of fans. Why do I want to plan on watching that dogshit at 7pm when I could watch it anytime?

They should focus on the aspect of having the fan have multiple categories to choose from to define certain moments for stars, programs, eras, etc. If you could put in HHH 2002 return and see the build for it with promos and such for 45 minutes before he comes out to the biggest pop of all time, tell me it wouldnt be much > anything else they wanted. Stunning Steve Austin WCW Loses = 35 mins of Austin before he meant jack shit, i'd watch that for an hour before watching Austin vs Vince series for a 2nd hour. That would be what I would want for the network.

 

[Aids Johnson]

I'm intrigued by what Aids said. Part of the beauty of the internet is that we choose our entertainment.
I'd say 100% of the reason I don't even watch regular TV is because people choose all the shows for me
I f***ing hate it when I get used to a show only for the network to 'switch things up'. It p*sses me off

I refuse to watch anything when it's on, it's why dvr is for morons. Oh you missed a show because you have a job/family/real life shit? Pay 15$ a month per receiver and still do the work.

No thanks, Pirate bay has my back, and i'd rather spend it on a higher mb/s rate.

 

[Aids Johnson]

Honestly even just the idea of the fan having it would make sense to me. Let me watch smackdown Wed afternoon. Let me cancel shows on my network and provide me with a search engine to find programs I would much rather have. I'd bay 19.99 a month for that kind of shit, granted Krispen Wah is available, but seriously The entire premise behind an internet based network is ownership.

You think people pay for porn sites on the interweb so that site can tell them what they can watch, when they can watch it?

 

[Jonathan]

Aids, they have on demand, just use the search bar. Sadly of course though they don't have the raw and smackdown's on from years ago, only the PPVs.

Any content that's on the live channel is also on demand, in which case apart from the ppvs and live shows, I have no idea why they have a live channel..

 

[Red Rain]

It appears from the onset that some of the same issues they were facing when bringing WWE network to TV, are biting them in the butt agan.
Time will heal this wound. In an era of instant gratification, everyone is expecting instant gratification.
WWE Network still doesn't offer what I want. What I want is a look into who the McMahon's are. They are largely closed off but that's where the real interest lies.
If Vince really wants this to take off, he needs to take risks and stop hiding behind the Universe. Fans, like myself, want to know who the McMahon's are. Until then, its all smokes and mirrors I've seen a thousand times

 

[Green Jesus]

I totally replied to the wrong thread. Gladly @Wacokid27 and @Leo C Rated it up anyways. Now hopefully it won't look like such a bad botch:facepalm:

 

[Red Rain]

I totally replied to the wrong thread. Gladly @Wacokid27 and @Leo C Rated it up anyways. Now hopefully it won't look like such a bad botch:facepalm:

I noticed that, too. Don't sweat, bro. I've done it. He**, I used to Instant Message the wrong chick in chat rooms all the time.
It's cringe, yes, but be happy 99% have a d*** and let it slide. We are.

 

[Leo C]

I totally replied to the wrong thread. Gladly @Wacokid27 and @Leo C Rated it up anyways. Now hopefully it won't look like such a bad botch:facepalm:

Well, it was a quality post nonetheless. This stuff happens. :dawg:

 

[leojay]

Well, assuming you're not broke or anything (otherwise you likely wouldn't own a television set or a computer with internet access anyway), $120 isn't a whole lot to take out of your yearly income. If you were being asked to put down $60 a month for the Network instead of every six months, I could see being skeptical about whether it was worth the money, but you're not. I just figure if so many millions of people can bother watching Raw and Smackdown every week that they would easily make the choice to purchase the Network as well at that low price.

Let me just copy paste what I said again:

The deal's great, but who wants the deal? Do they really have that many people willing to pay $120 a year for premium WWE content? How many casual fans are there as opposed to die-hard ones? Do casual fans want to pay $120 a year for premium WWE content?

$120 isn't a whole lot, but how many people want to spend that on the WWE? It may seem like a good deal (and it is a good deal), but how many people actually want it?

I think the WWE has a die-hard audience that will pay for their product no matter the price, but every other fan they have will stick to RAW and be happy with it. And I don't think that die-hard audience is much bigger than the WWE Networks current subscriber count. If Wrestlemania 30 didn't entice people to buy it, what exactly will? It's actually pretty scary how close Wrestlemania 29's American buy rate was to the original WWE Network Subscriber numbers, too. It speaks a lot.

 

[leojay]

I said that earlier but I still question why given that being hooked to the television show should naturally make you eager to watch the PPVs as a follow-up to it, especially at the offer of a low price.

But how many people are actually hooked to the television show and aren't just watching it out of habit?

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

But how many people are actually hooked to the television show and aren't just watching it out of habit?

Well I would say a lot of fans on WWEF are pretty "die hard" and my thread about current interest showed the vast majority of this forum is quite disinterested in the current product. So I would say at this point the ratio of "hooked" to "watching out of habit" would lean heavily toward the latter.

 

[leojay]

No question about it.

I really don't see how people can be surprised it's failing, to be honest. They set an overly high goal that they hyped as completely doable based on a "study" showing that over 90 million homes in America had a WWE fan in them. And they're now paying the price. They'll in the end make the Network profitable though through slightly raising the price and putting in adverts, but they still just killed a PPV business that was far from dead.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

No question about it.

I really don't see how people can be surprised it's failing, to be honest. They set an overly high goal that they hyped as completely doable based on a "study" showing that over 90 million homes in America had a WWE fan in them. And they're now paying the price. They'll in the end make the Network profitable though through slightly raising the price and putting in adverts, but they still just killed a PPV business that was far from dead.

Yea how can they ever go back to the PPV model? "Well we tried to hook you up with the netowrk, but oh well. Back to $60 a month to see our shitty PPVs in HD!"

Like Jononoob said, they never should have given every PPV away on the Network. Should have been reserved for the clear cut B PPVs. The Rumble, EC, Mania, ER, MITB and Summerslam should still be PPVs. The rest could be exclusive to the Network because nobody cares about the rest of the shit PPVs anyhow.

 

[Snowman1]

Another thing to bring is just to look at the Network subscribers from Wrestlemania this year. From the outside looking in I wouldn't be happy with Battleground's being the 3rd or 4th cold PPV in a row. They still need to do a better job building excitement for these shows.