WS Christmas Mafia 2021

[Comrade Khan]

N still magic as indy. Amazing

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Like I think he copy and pasted his early list

 

[Comrade Khan]

That actually could be helpful if we see when he had them…. Because if it’s all the reindeer… they are 9 of those..

Please don't even joke

 

[Comrade Khan]

Like I think he copy and pasted his early list

Yup lol

 

[Ekkologix]

Why would scum need a lie detect though?

could be fake
point is we need to find the scum in tweet/sky
i dont think both r town

 

[Hidden Blaze]

Please don't even joke

Like it could just be a good guess. I need to go find when he first made a list and if it was 9… but I mean I had to check but they are 9 damn reindeer.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Like it could just be a good guess. I need to go find when he first made a list and if it was 9… but I mean I had to check but they are 9 damn reindeer.

There won't be 9 scum no matter what lol. Scum + indy account for 33% of the game. 9 scum would be just under 50% . Clukd realistically win off one mislynch n a a few good night actions

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Alright here’s the stuff that stuck out to me with Juice regarding the triangle of her, Junk, and Pete.

Juice jumped on Junk early and wasn’t interested in going anywhere else. Possibly TMI that Junk is scum. She basically threw the vote down, didn’t bother to do any additional solving (I recognize that from what I’ve seen of peoples comments on Juice that a lot of solving probably isn’t expected). But then Juice never really pushed Junk except for a random mention a few times or as an answer to someone specifically asking Juice for scum reads. Juice scum read Junk consistently but in doing so was never putting Junk in danger.

This is the first post - that raises my eyebrows. Not sure how anyone can honestly give solid reads, this early into a game - and then make a statement that they have provided more than anyone else. It is Day 1 - generally, most reads mean nothing but hot air.

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Vote: Junk

at this moment in time, only person that I would even be inclined to vote for.
Probably not my final vote though.

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All I know - is Junk is sussy af

Junk

my scum read is Junk....

plz keep up

Junk wanted Johnny over Juice when choosing between them.

Vote Johnny

im okay with this too, probably the most suspect of the two.

Says she thinks scum is in there but only focuses on Johnny.

i think the votes on me are shit so scum in there, i want a claim from johnny

we've had two claims already jeff, we're doing fine.

Junk is the first to suggest Juice as a Jester and uses it to try and pump the breaks on a Juice wagon.

i'll lol if juice is a jester or scum faking one.

this is a jester barry.

Tries to get votes on Johnny instead. Also this push on Johnny, before I even get to a 4th ISO. Suggest to me that 4th and Junk are not aligned.

more votes on johnny cause wtf was that and vote and explanation at that gamestate

Pete also wasn’t down for a Juice lynch. Even later EOD1 when he was in grave danger himself.

What's the actual case on Juice?

Like, going after Juice for shitposting while just ignoring Blaine, T-Pein™, Alibaba and Wang Chung is definitely a choice.

I'm not particularly interested in lynching Juice, nor am I particularly interested in lynching myself, so.

Juice actually moves her vote to Ekko by end of day and admits it’s a weird vote. Don’t know what to make of that but thought it was worth quoting in this.

If you think I'm town - then voting me is either you openly admitting you're stupid and anti-town or that you are scum aligned.

Unvote
Vote: Ekko

I gave more of a reason for voting Junk than Ekko.

Hoping no one is just allowing that rando vote to take place unanswered

Junk still is trying to go for Johnny over Juice even with Pete in danger and Juice being presumably the easier counter wagon.

the johnny wagon stagnated, probably cause he's scum, unlike the other fast wagons

Eventually Junk does decide Juice is better than Peter, but decides a no lynch might just be best.

honestly think he's the way, but i'd prefer juice over peter based on strenght of player alone and that's not a knock on Juice. Peter's lovely

I’d rather vote scum. I just don’t see it in Peter

Vote Juice

I’m fine with this.

But then Junk actually pulls off of Juice.

And because she’s not flipping out you’re thinking not stump got it.

Unvote

Don’t think a no lynch is the worst possible outcome here, given the options i’m left with.

15 minutes, i choose nothing at this point

Pete did not want to order this list Ekko gave. Kind of makes me think there’s probably a partner in there. Which Juice is a part of.

can everyone list their scummiest to least scummy off these players

jobber/peter/lethal/juice and a dead inactive slot bigman/alibaba

like

jobber
lethal
pete
juice
bigman/ali

Actually, of that group, I'd be broadly okay with pushing Lethal.

I think this could possibly be distancing from Juice with Junk knowing she’s about to get bussed.

Why is Juice obviously town?

I guess that’s fair. Still don’t see Juice being obvious town but whatever. Can you explain that?

Juice keeps asking who Peter is. Possibly playing dumb:

Peter who?

Seriously - who is Peter?

still no idea who Peter is

Juice giving Pete townie points:

This is a very town comment.

Drops the Junk vote and dips until some time after Junk’s flip.

VOTE: Junk

Interesting Tweet stuff from Pete:

This x 1000.

It's a literal 50/50 shot. Stop trying to waste the lie detect as some "test" that won't actually help us.

This read was pretty pingy. Possible early distance if Tweet is a scummate that ever gets caught? Especially weird after he was so against Ekko’s idea to test him with a 50/50.

Tweet - Would be in the Barry category if not for the claim. I don't get the point of a scum lie detector. Feel like SK would be bloodthirstier.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

There won't be 9 scum no matter what lol. Scum + indy account for 33% of the game. 9 scum would be just under 50% . Clukd realistically win off one mislynch n a a few good night actions

Ahh okay. Damn here I thought I caught the man slipping

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Dude those quotes got all out of order and I had to reorder them manually with copy and paste on mobile and I want to die now lol.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

That actually could be helpful if we see when he had them…. Because if it’s all the reindeer… they are 9 of those..

The scum flips indicate a 5 man scum team.

 

[Ekkologix]

these are tweet's relevant posts about peter/junk


he was against lynching peter on day 1 pretty firmly, towards end of day he wanted to lynch juice(on day 1), and he voted jonny/juice for voting scum junk.

on day 2 he was more on board with the junk/peter stuff, but focused more on removing junk.

removing junk was the plann they staged in scum chat

it was gna work, we were all gna lynch junk today and they get massive cred off it, but lil things went off plan

1. i subbed into big man slot and revealed i have a day kill which cucked their entire plan since an additional kill means both players in PoE can be wiped today.

at that point, they tried to improvise the plan and have me vig junk while they set up a lynch on barry/tpein, so everyone started voting junk

2. this failed again because i decided to go against the consensus and just shoot peter anyway, which forced the rest of the team to continue their bus on junk or they will look really really bad

now they lost their most active players, they r kinda scattered and im sure they are just inactives rn. retep was their head. this is a spider with no head and half its limbs torn apart. we can probably end the game in next 2 cycles if we use the vigs/lynches correctly tbh

the gamestate rn is hard town controlling the thread. mafia is getting destroyed

 

[Hidden Blaze]

The scum flips indicate a 5 man scum team.

Ahh. Okay I missed that in the flips

 

[Comrade Khan]

Alright here’s the stuff that stuck out to me with Juice regarding the triangle of her, Junk, and Pete.

Juice jumped on Junk early and wasn’t interested in going anywhere else. Possibly TMI that Junk is scum. She basically threw the vote down, didn’t bother to do any additional solving (I recognize that from what I’ve seen of peoples comments on Juice that a lot of solving probably isn’t expected). But then Juice never really pushed Junk except for a random mention a few times or as an answer to someone specifically asking Juice for scum reads. Juice scum read Junk consistently but in doing so was never putting Junk in danger.






Junk wanted Johnny over Juice when choosing between them.

Says she thinks scum is in there but only focuses on Johnny.

Junk is the first to suggest Juice as a Jester and uses it to try and pump the breaks on a Juice wagon.




Tries to get votes on Johnny instead. Also this push on Johnny, before I even get to a 4th ISO. Suggest to me that 4th and Junk are not aligned.

Pete also wasn’t down for a Juice lynch. Even later EOD1 when he was in grave danger himself.



Juice actually moves her vote to Ekko by end of day and admits it’s a weird vote. Don’t know what to make of that but thought it was worth quoting in this.


Junk still is trying to go for Johnny over Juice even with Pete in danger and Juice being presumably the easier counter wagon.

Eventually Junk does decide Juice is better than Peter, but decides a no lynch might just be best.


But then Junk actually pulls off of Juice.




Pete did not want to order this list Ekko gave. Kind of makes me think there’s probably a partner in there. Which Juice is a part of.



I think this could possibly be distancing from Juice with Junk knowing she’s about to get bussed.


Juice keeps asking who Peter is. Possibly playing dumb:





Juice giving Pete townie points:

Drops the Junk vote and dips until some time after Junk’s flip.



Interesting Tweet stuff from Pete:


This read was pretty pingy. Possible early distance if Tweet is a scummate that ever gets caught? Especially weird after he was so against Ekko’s idea to test him with a 50/50.

 

[Ekkologix]

like look at tfw trying his best to get our attention from tweet to tpein/barry

its pretty cute tbh