What the hell has happened to Randy Orton?

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He pissed me off once he started doing the Austin pose on the turnbuckle (for no fucking reason, why stop your own? Although he finally did his own last night afterwards..) and using the Lou Thesz press. And the OLYMPIC SLAM, WTF?!
 

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Also, as far as Orton goes in the future. I want Sheamus and Drew McIntyre (Wade Barrett before, but he can't do it anymore) to take their alliance thing further and feud and dominate Orton just until he can find a 'mystery partner' for a PPV in which it'll be a returning Triple H and reuniting Evolution thing. Evolution vs. the Celtic Connection I think they call themselves. Can put those two over big time.
 

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I don't know how you can not like Orton. He's not really put over as a super face like Cena is and yet he continues to dominate. You all can claim that Cena is better but Cena is nothing more than a great talker and gimmick wrestler who drops a fist and throws someone off his shoulders. There is no in there right mind who would look at funny boy Cena than look into the cold eyes or Orton and tell me theyd rather face Orton. He's not being used properly as his best use is the maniacal heel who punted everyone in sight. Don't take away from the best wrestler in the WWE though
 

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We have a rule at IWF that you may only speak if you know what you're talking about.
 

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Orton isn't put over as a super face? He didn't do a clean loss to Miz once in three matches.

I'd say that that kind of protection is only afforded to super faces.
 

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Actually now that I think of it, I don't think Orton ever lost to Sheamus clean either. When the hell was the last time Orton lost clean in a title match as a face?
 

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Actually now that I think of it, I don't think Orton ever lost to Sheamus clean either. When the hell was the last time Orton lost clean in a title match as a face?
To Jack Swagger. Yep.
 

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I'm saying Orton doesn't do anything to be a face. His character changed very little except that he was placed against the heels. Its not like hes eliminating the nexus or saying things to make the masses of ignorant WWE fans like him. He goes out there as the unemotional psycho path and looks out only for himself and the fans love it. He could punt Cena at this point and get a huge pop from the crowd
 

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Orton isn't put over as a super face? He didn't do a clean loss to Miz once in three matches.

I'd say that that kind of protection is only afforded to super faces.

To be fair, no one who matters has lost clean to Miz....ever. Aren't you glad we have such a dominant champion who is so believable, he could conceivably beat someone on his own?
 

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To be fair, no one who matters has lost clean to Miz....ever. Aren't you glad we have such a dominant champion who is so believable, he could conceivably beat someone on his own?

And this is Miz's fault how?
 

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Monkeystyle said:
Orton isn't put over as a super face? He didn't do a clean loss to Miz once in three matches.

I'd say that that kind of protection is only afforded to super faces.
Alas that just sounds like typical WWE main event face booking these days to me.... Nothing on the 'protection' front that a guy like Mysterio doesn't get.

Been a major prob with the big fueds/storylines over recent years, too many guys getting protected so the bookers have nowhere to interesting to take the fueds... (Punk v Taker, Rey v Punk, Legacy v HHH, Sheamus v Cena, Nexus v Cena; the list goes on.)


Just 'once' I'd like to see something like the Rock/Mankind fued again - i.e. Have them lose, bounce back for a win, and so on....


IMO putting the title on Orton late last year was too soon.... The fans got what they wanted and there's nowhere else to go. Imagine, if they'd just continued his push as a face, got him embroiled in a couple of heavy non-title fueds, evolved the character a little and eventually had him win the belt at this years Mania? ...I believe he'd still be hot as fuck.