UPDATED! - WWE VS Saudi Arabia

[Grievous 3D]

Just this past July, I was trapped in an airport with my flight being delayed for around 9-10 hours due to mechanical issues. Was Dallas, TX holding me hostage and trying to kill me too?

I hope not...

Wait...where am I?

 

[Zardnaar]

So a AAA wrestler says Vince cut of the live feed for lack of payment, but the part I want to comment on is this:

"Savinovich asserted that this was not a hearsay rumor, and that he heard this from someone with direct knowledge of the situation."

Um, that is the very definition of hearsay.

Apparently he cut the live feed, is owed millions and one of the princes detained the plane to hold them up.

 

[InsaneAlphaBeta]

@Jeffry Fucking Mason @JacobFox @Seto-san @Beavie @Zardnaar @Grievous 3D @The Reagmaster

Here is what we know so far

 

[Redboy123@]

There are several people in the US who think that George W Bush ordered 9/11. There are several people who believe the moon landings were faked. There are even several people who believe the Earth is flat. None of that matters. It's human nature to jump to conclusions. The only people whose opinions matter about the mechanical issues are mechanics

Yeah well let's get the facts from these mechanics and then maybe we will stop asking questions. Let's actually have a legit investigation into 9/11 so we can actually find out what happened. Obviously if people are trying to cover something up then the opinions of the self employed investigators are not to be trusted. Gotta ask these questions and think for ourselves.

But yeah lol. Saudis are not harming any wrestler lol. Not in a million years. Most likely mechanical issue or they just wanted to inconvenience them

 

[Grievous 3D]

Bryan & Dave...

These guys have good chemistry...although Dave
can take AGES to actually say something.

"A real bad situation..."
~ Dave Meltzer

Wait...so Vince & his "top level" staff left...but the
rest of talent was stuck in Saudi Arabia for an extra
day?

And the talent actually felt like hostages?

You know what...

I'm not saying another word...

I don't think I need to.

 

[The Sheik]

All I heard was Vince abandoned his wrestlers in Saudi Arabia.

 

[The Gipper]

From Karl Anderson’s wife.

 

[Rosie]

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From Karl Anderson’s wife.

*Hot Asian Wife

 

[Jacob Fox]

Apparently he cut the live feed, is owed millions and one of the princes detained the plane to hold them up.

That is fine, but it's still hearsay. Anything that doesn't automatically come from the parties involved is hearsay. Vince McMahon could have told the AAA wrestler directly what happened. However, the moment that wrestler passes that information on to anyone else, it becomes hearsay if he doesn't provide a video clip, audio clip or a written statement as evidence of it.

 

[Grievous 3D]

?

 

[The Gipper]

So what I’m getting from this is that Vince did send a charter but only for the “top 20” wrestlers. The rest had to wait for the flight.

 

[bullyballmm]

Lol there is so much wrong with how this has played out ON HERE it is not even funny.

Whether Dave Meltzer is right (Alvarez is an idiot who spends more time bitching about wrestling then doing any actual journalism) remains to be seen. He has been wrong a lot this past year (sorta even 2), but even he wouldn't talk about something as big as this without really confirming his sources. So @InsaneAlphaBeta you are taking things apparent authority figures say at face value. While @Jeffry Fucking Mason your hatred for WOR is blinding you this time it appears.

Then there is the sharing of lame YouTube videos "explaining" the situation as if anybody but the people involved have any clue what is going on. @Grievous 3D don't take the word of nobodies on YouTube as gospel.

@JacobFox your inability to even consider that it wasn't a mechanical issue that is at play here is concerning. The null hypothesis shouldn't be that it is a mechanical issue just because people say it was. If the wrestlers were told to say that by Vince, who was told to say that by the Saudis, then yeah I am not going to consider "mechanical issues" to be the default explanation. And there is a good chance it could be what I just said, given that the wrestlers seem really unhappy (per Meltzer reports) - angrier than is warranted for just some "mechanical issues". You know what really makes workers unhappy? When they are forced to lie by their boss.

My position is just that we shouldn't really have one. Wait and see how this all plays out. Let the journalists do their jobs, and let IAB keep us up to date. But speculating is really unhelpful with a complex issue such as this one, at least right at the start of this news story. The same way constant speculation about a gunman in the beginning of a shooting event is unhelpful (Or is there a second shooter? I just asked the question therefore the second shooter exists. Be afraid. - You see what I mean?)

 

[Grievous 3D]

Then there is the sharing of lame YouTube videos "explaining" the situation as if anybody but the people involved
have any clue what is going on. Grievous 3D don't take the word of nobodies on YouTube as gospel.

I don't consider the words of "nobodies" as gospel...
& I've never said I did...and I don't think its a problem
share random videos on a current topic...I do it in
most threads.

And honestly...who the fuck are you to come in here
& take issue with how certain members have "reacted"
to this situation?

Talk about high & mighty...

I may be too negative for some...but at least I don't sit
on my high horse & declare how everyone else is wrong.

My position is just that we shouldn't really have one.

Which is fine...if that's your position...but don't strut
your way in here telling everyone how "wrong" they
are for their own opinions/reactions/position on the
subject.

Are you smelling your own fart as you type this stuff out?

But hey...at least your tagging people now...so I can at least
respect that.

 

[bullyballmm]

@Grievous 3D I can do whatever I want. There is no rule against having an opinion on how others react to wrestling news.

Also .... stop ..... (ab)using ..... ellipses .......................... by using ... them .. incorectly. You look like a boomer who went to the "School of Hard Knocks" when you type like that.

 

[Grievous 3D]

Grievous 3D I can do whatever I want. There is no rule against having an opinion on how others react to wrestling news.

That's a fair call...but I guess then I can have an opinion on how you react to those reactions right?

:idk3:

Also .... stop ..... (ab)using ..... ellipses .......................... by using ... them .. incorrectly.

No. Its how I type...& its how I've always typed since I joined.

You look like a boomer who went to the "School of Hard Knocks" when you type like that.

I have no idea what your talking about...so whatever insult
your attempting with that remark is completely lost on me.

Sorry.