The Political Thread

[Comrade Khan]

if taiwan gets invaded however, prob goin to war lol

 

[Smart Marx]

pretty fine line too because really the US should concede nothing and neither should Ukraine (from their pov). Russia also is too all in to give up at this point outside of Putin getting an unfortunate fall from a tall building. its gonna be tighter sanctions and better weapons at a slow rate especially since Russia is losing ground. I don't really expect the US to escalate at all here

At this point I’d threaten military engagement but what do I know I’m just a Neocon.

 

[Comrade Khan]

At this point I’d threaten military engagement but what do I know I’m just a Neocon.

i mean hey, im not fucking opposed to that but i think there is no appetite in the us for that atm

 

[Comrade Khan]

id have entered the war the second they invaded crimea too

 

[Smart Marx]

pretty fine line too because really the US should concede nothing and neither should Ukraine (from their pov). Russia also is too all in to give up at this point outside of Putin getting an unfortunate fall from a tall building. its gonna be tighter sanctions and better weapons at a slow rate especially since Russia is losing ground. I don't really expect the US to escalate at all here

Outside of a threat though if you’re really trying to negotiate an end to the conflict the US is going to have to offer them something so I don’t know what.

 

[Smart Marx]

Ukraine should absolutely not concede though.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Outside of a threat though if you’re really trying to negotiate an end to the conflict the US is going to have to offer them something so I don’t know what.

I dont think the US actually wants to negotiate outside their own terms, is more what im saying. hence why its all posturing

 

[Comrade Khan]

the US is only going to do what is in its best interest, so I'm going to wildly speculate they are quite happy funding ukraine while russia goes bankrupt

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

and like what negations are there really to have if we are being honest. stop attacking ukraine. no. k bye

Cede Russian territories in Georgia and Ukraine, a treaty not to attack either lands for 70 yesrs and we'll end several sanctions and in fact offer cash considerations and a non-aggression pact indefinitely.

 

[Smart Marx]

i mean hey, im not fucking opposed to that but i think there is no appetite in the us for that atm

There’s definitely not. That might be the one bipartisan thing in the states. That’s why I have to say neocon now because the right is anti war as much as the hippies.

 

[Comrade Khan]

yeah I mean the only thing US is going to offer is to relieve sanctions, they'll never agree to recognize sovereign ukraine land as russian, im going to assume that is a complete non starter for USA. But ya sure I mean I think it's a given sanctions will be lifted if they fucked off. they just dont want to fuck off

 

[Smart Marx]

id have entered the war the second they invaded crimea too

Same. I’d be the fuck around find out President.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Same. I’d be the fuck around find out President.

I think if you are the strongest military in the world and another country straight up invades sovereign land, yeah you should probably do something about it with impunity

 

[Smart Marx]

yeah I mean the only thing US is going to offer is to relieve sanctions, they'll never agree to recognize sovereign ukraine land as russian, im going to assume that is a complete non starter for USA. But ya sure I mean I think it's a given sanctions will be lifted if they fucked off. they just dont want to fuck off

The US absolutely won’t concede Ukraine nor should they but I definitely think sanctions would be a start and then I think the other issue would be NATO. They will probably have to do some thing to downsize NATO possibly kick out those in the neighboring states etc.

 

[Comrade Khan]

The US absolutely won’t concede Ukraine nor should they but I definitely think sanctions would be a start and then I think the other issue would be NATO. They will probably have to do some thing to downsize NATO possibly kick out those in the neighboring states etc.

yeah and NATO is going to get bigger not smaller. Russia, ironically, made sure of that