Sammy Guevara Suspended

[Smart Marx]

Yeah I agree. Wrestlers also tend to be idiots a lot so I don't think it's bad to try and further idiot proof your system to prevent it either. Can't rate the Jeff point tho bc if he was actually concussed, well they try and keep working all the time, it's on the non-concussed to be the smart ones lol

No I agree. I’m I’m not one of the ones saying that Jeff should’ve gotten any trouble. I only mentioned it because now we know he wasn’t concussed so he was thinking straight so he probably shouldn’t have agreed to do the finish either but that’s not here nor there. Sammy should’ve knew better either way.

 

[BSE]

Oh one thing I feel is being lost in the miscommunication possibility aspect is that....let's also just examine common sense here lol you just landed on someone's face with your knee full force, the ref pauses action, checks on him, tells you (probably frantically) to go home....man I give some benefit of the doubt of this all happening so fast truly but you don't SMACK THE MAN IN THE FACE WITH YOUR KNEE AGAIN I don't really care what take it home might normally mean when looking at the facts here, but I have no bad feelings towards Sammy either, he just fucked up here and everyone is lucky it wasn't worse. Better to learn this way than the alternative

Why not have the ref specifically tell Sammy to "roll him up and pin him" instead of "go to the finish"

Sammy made a mistake but I do think the communication could be better

 

[Smart Marx]

I definitely think to further idiot proof the system. If it’s specifically a head issue just stop the match.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Why not have the ref specifically tell Sammy to "roll him up and pin him" instead of "go to the finish"

Sammy made a mistake but I do think the communication could be better

because at this point Sammy is a veteran and should know the verbiage and the protocol. While I agree better communication is always a thing that can be done, there has to be a sense of common sense as well.

 

[Smart Marx]

Why not have the ref specifically tell Sammy to "roll him up and pin him" instead of "go to the finish"

Sammy made a mistake but I do think the communication could be better

I’m sure they will in the future unless they just stop the next match. As I think they should.

 

[Comrade Khan]

I definitely think to further idiot proof the system. If it’s specifically a head issue just stop the match.

they did for 5 minutes tbh, they just clipped it out

 

[Smart Marx]

because at this point Sammy is a veteran and should know the verbiage and the protocol. While I agree better communication is always a thing that can be done, there has to be a sense of common sense as well.

See, this is the only reason why I keep pushing back on the verbiage point because go Home usually does mean to hit a finish now the protocol point you have a point on and that’s the reason why he should take his suspension.

 

[Chris]

Why not have the ref specifically tell Sammy to "roll him up and pin him" instead of "go to the finish"

Sammy made a mistake but I do think the communication could be better

We don't even know what the exact communication was for one lol and I never said it couldn't have, I just said they should have their own word for concussion protocol so everyone knows what's happening instantly. My point is even if it was worded as "take it home" that doesn't really make me feel for Sammy anymore than otherwise

 

[Comrade Khan]

the fact it was a taped match is even more baffling though lol

 

[Smart Marx]

they did for 5 minutes tbh, they just clipped it out

Ah I see. Shoulda just kept it that way then. No sure why they did a go home instruction if 5 minutes went by.

 

[Smart Marx]

the fact it was a taped match is even more baffling though lol

That’s a good point lol

Like at that point definitely just stop it and get Jeff help. It’s not live.

 

[Comrade Khan]

See, this is the only reason why I keep pushing back on the verbiage point because go Home usually does mean to hit a finish now the protocol point you have a point on and that’s the reason why he should take his suspension.

the thing is I'm assuming they've had presentations on head safety and the full protocol. I also could be wrong for sure

 

[Chris]

At that point Sammy should have won by referee stoppage and nothing is hurt bc he was the winner anyway, weird not to just do it yeah

 

[Comrade Khan]

Ah I see. Shoulda just kept it that way then. No sure why they did a go home instruction if 5 minutes went by.

yeah I mean we're also using 3rd hand info so we don't know what was actually discussed and what the verbiage is, so now that I'm thinking about it, I suppose there's not much point debating it too much. clearly some miscommunication happened in aew felt a suspension was needed. I suppose those are the only verifiable facts atm unless Sammy makes a statement

 

[Comrade Khan]

At that point Sammy should have won by referee stoppage and nothing is hurt bc he was the winner anyway, weird not to just do it yeah

yeah I can't really disagree here, taped match that was a tune up match too like who cares