Sammy Guevara Suspended

[Smart Marx]

Yeah, weird that they didn’t just do a referee stoppage also because that’s also a Kayfabe way to end a match.

Like I said a couple posts ago, though, I definitely think this situation just exposed a couple holes in the protocol and that can only be a good thing moving forward because now they can fix them.

 

[Chris]

the thing is I'm assuming they've had presentations on head safety and the full protocol. I also could be wrong for sure

I'm too lazy to look, it could have been on a media call but I thought after the Moxley one Tony was asked about it and said they had a new system in place and mentioned the fines. It would feel like they were picking on Sammy for being a repeat offender if not lol

 

[Smart Marx]

yeah I mean we're also using 3rd hand info so we don't know what was actually discussed and what the verbiage is, so now that I'm thinking about it, I suppose there's not much point debating it too much. clearly some miscommunication happened in aew felt a suspension was needed. I suppose those are the only verifiable facts atm unless Sammy makes a statement

This is true. We don’t know what the exact instruction is, but I will say, though, if five minutes went by though, I don’t think any verbiage should’ve been given to the wrestler. If the match had already been stopped and people were checking out for five minutes they should’ve just been wrong and Jeff been taken care of. You can figure out how to edit the match for the show later in my opinion.

Back to the verbiage though if Sammy wasn’t given vague instruction to go home and was specifically told to roll him up then I have no words for Sammy whatsoever. He’s just a moron.

 

[Chris]

I don't really give it much of a chance that he was told exactly "roll him up" fwiw, that would be ridiculous if he still hit the finish then

 

[Comrade Khan]

Deonna using an ankle lock to finish Madison the same week or wtv prob made him look worse too :s

 

[Smart Marx]

I want to preface this by saying I’m not one of the people that still holds a grudge against Jack Perry and I’m actually very much interested in what he’s gonna do in new Japan but I would absolutely love the memes if Sammy returns from his suspension first.

 

[writtenin1981]

I don't really give it much of a chance that he was told exactly "roll him up" fwiw, that would be ridiculous if he still hit the finish then

I keep going back to whatever he and Jeff discussed in their brief tie up before the finish. Did Jeff tell him "give me your finish and pin me"? That's what I am stuck on in all of this is that Jeff, having been a wrestler longer than Sammy has been alive, has some responsibility in this situation as well. If he is telling Sammy to do something, is Sammy in a position at this point in his career to say "no" to a 30 year veteran who is telling him what to do, even if that veteran maybe concussed at that moment?

Could it be a case where the referee gave them orders to finish the match and Jeff gave him the go ahead to do the spot?

And that is playing devil's advocate since none of us know what the discussion was or anything like that.

 

[Chris]

I mean quite frankly no one more than 2 years in the business should probably be letting Jeff do any calling in the ring regardless of concussions being involved

 

[writtenin1981]

I mean quite frankly no one more than 2 years in the business should probably be letting Jeff do any calling in the ring regardless of concussions being involved

You make a darn fine point there, my friend... Well played!

 

[Lady Redfield]

I’ve only seen it reported that he was told to pin Jeff. Assuming that’s what happened, Sammy shouldn’t be punished for this, the ref should have stopped the match or found a way to indicate there was a serious injury so he would know what to do. This should be pinned on the ref.

 

[Chris]

A response of sort at the end of the video

Thanks for watching. And to the people who support me whether it be from the beginning or in the middle or maybe this is your first video you’ve watched of mine, I just wanted to say thank you.
I understand that I am a person who has made mistakes but I am also a person who has tried to be better. “Roll with the punches" is a saying that I truly understand now at 30 years old. Life will throw a lot at you.
But it is how you deal with those adversities that make you who you are. I know who I am and I know what I’m going after.
See you at the top.

 

[Chris]

Update from this week's observer

Sammy Guevara is no longer suspended but there’s no word on when he’ll be cycled back into storylines. There has been stuff pitched but nothing confirmed