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Raw Thread June 11

Chris

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None of that changes the FACT that Brock is the longest reigning world champion since the 80s though lol like do you disagree with that at all? Bc it sounds like you just disagree with how WWE presents it

No ones saying he broke a WWE championship record at all bruh but since there's been so few Universal Champions just saying Brock is the longest doesn't mean as much as saying he's the longest reigning of ANY world title in the last 30 years. Once again ITS NOT A REAL RECORD but that doesn't change it being an actual fact
 
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None of that changes the FACT that Brock is the longest reigning world champion since the 80s though lol like do you disagree with that at all? Bc it sounds like you just disagree with how WWE presents it
But why is that a record? I agree with Cwalker when he says it was stupid when CM Punk did it. I don't think WWE, World Heavyweight and Universal should be lumped together like they were all one belt. Just talk about the records of any of those individual belts.

If Brock wants to talk about being the longest reigning "world" champion since the 80s while barely defending the belt and being on the show, go for it. And this from a person that is normally fine with the arrangement, just silly when comparing it to other champions.
 

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But why is that a record? I agree with Cwalker when he says it was stupid when CM Punk did it. I don't think WWE, World Heavyweight and Universal should be lumped together like they were all one belt. Just talk about the records of any of those individual belts.

If Brock wants to talk about being the longest reigning "world" champion since the 80s while barely defending the belt and being on the show, go for it. And this from a person that is normally fine with the arrangement, just silly when comparing it to other champions.
Oops I edited my post after you quoted it but go back and read what i said to add and let me stress again ITS NOT A REAL RECORD it's just a fact, like a little fun fact that isn't causing very much fun here
 
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Oops I edited my post after you quoted it but go back and read what i said to add and let me stress again ITS NOT A REAL RECORD it's just a fact, like a little fun fact that isn't causing very much fun here
I mean if it's just a piece of trivia that Brock held his belt longer than Punk held his, then that's true. It's just being presented as a record by everyone that is the issue. Other than that it's whatever. Punk is still unmoved from wherever he was on the WWE Title reign lengths, I think he was maybe 8th or something.

One thing I'll say for Brock is he will probably hold the longest reigning Universal title reign. I don't see anyone else holding the red belt for 435 days, kudos to him for getting it and getting paid for it.
 

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Punk's reign was better.....yeah that Triple H fued was a game changer :lmao

Or that whole Ryback clusterfuck :MJ:

Oh wait, the Daniel Bryan feud that was all about AJ Lee :TI:

The only highlight he had was Jericho. That reign was flatter than Arianna Grande's boobs.
 

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I didn't think semantics was this big of an issue lol let's say hypothetically Brock holds this dsmn belt until he passes Bruno's title run, would it upset you so much if they called him the longest reigning world champion ever? Because he would be and it's the same "mixing belts" thing you seem to hate
 

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I didn't think semantics was this big of an issue lol let's say hypothetically Brock holds this dsmn belt until he passes Bruno's title run, would it upset you so much if they called him the longest reigning world champion ever? Because he would be and it's the same "mixing belts" thing you seem to hate
If WWE were to get to that point unify all the world belts and let him actually surpass Bruno's reign.

Because having a guy hold on the belt for 2804 days not be the WWE Champion would just be a crime.
 

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Just because I want to take the piss out of this entire conversation if we're straight up talking world champions and not WWE, World Heavyweight or Universal: Hulk Hogan held the WCW Championship for 469 days. And if you count the IWGP Championship as a "world" title, that Okada guy just held his belt for like 720 days. Brock got a ways to go!
 

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But Bruno was the WWWF champion.

A name is just a name.

Whats considered the top title and what's closing the big shows?
 

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But Bruno was the WWWF champion.

A name is just a name.

Whats considered the top title and what's closing the big shows?
The World Title closed many shows when it was Raw's main title. But WWE always goes back to the WWE Title eventually.
 

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The World Title closed many shows when it was Raw's main title. But WWE always goes back to the WWE Title eventually.
And the world title was th top title when it was on Raw.

Raw champ always gets top billing. Could call it anything and it's still the top title.