Clash of Champions RATE CLASH OF CHAMPS! '19

[edge4ever]

Gave it a 9/10.

Reasoning? Well, although I didn’t like or get some outcomes, I enjoyed the matches overall. Each one honestly felt like it was well paced and fun to see. The only one that felt very odd was Charlotte losing so quickly in the way she did, but other than that, it felt good.

And, the main reason I gave it a 9, is because of the fiend ending. I love the way they’re pushing bray Wyatt finally and the methods they’re doing it so far is superb.

It’s as if he’s just forcing himself to top and has no regard for who’s there, he just wants to be the top dog and beat the hero’s. The ending of the show was perfect, it even showed the logo like it was about to end and then the lights go out and the fiends errrry unsettling music plays as he hits sister Abigail on the ramp. Loved it.

 

[white crow]

And, the main reason I gave it a 9, is because of the fiend ending. I love the way they’re pushing bray Wyatt finally and the methods they’re doing it so far is superb.

There was a Fiend ending? Ah shit, shouldn't have turned it off as soon as slaying the monster ended.

 

[Jay-Ashley]

I give it a bowl full of soggy rice out of 10

 

[edge4ever]

There was a Fiend ending? Ah shit, shouldn't have turned it off as soon as slaying the monster ended.

Yes. You need to see the end. Everyone thought it was the perfect hero’s ending and the bam, lights out and he has Seth by the head when a spotlight shines on them and he nails sister Abigail and then begins using the mandible claw until Seth is out cold.

 

[Snowman1]

I actually watched this show. 3/10 from me. The bad definitely outweighed the good.

Positives:
-Sasha/Becky. Knowing going in this was going to be a fuck finish, this was by far the best match on the show. There was emotion, intensity, athleticism. Stuff many matches on the show needed. And the postmatch was fun.

-Raw tag titles match. Best kind of Revival match, where they're a break from mere formula tags and with a finish of "We're going to beat you to dust, then not pin you and beat you up more because we can". A+

-Bray Wyatt and Luke Harper, plus the possible weird ass Bryan/Reigns team, because Roman is getting too loved

-Women's Tag Titles, honestly. This overdeliveres and they told a solid story after the 24/7 goofs left

-The main event was OK. They tried to have a match with some emotion but nobody bought it. Plus this show killed the crowd by then. In 2019, main eventing WWE PPVs (especially Mania) gets you the worst reaction.

Negatives:

-By God the opener pissed me off. You're WWE. They HAVE to start getting stuff like this right. They're formula tagging it up and we're just waiting for the issues between the champs to play out, but...that was it? AEW is coming. Things like this, and big moments, is your identity.

-Charlotte vs Bayley can fuck right off.

-I want to go back in time to 2014. And not just say to my past self that the IC title is still around but... Maybe most people didn't watch 2014 NXT, but how the hell is Sami Zayn beyond repair? Why is he a heel? Why is Shinsuke Nakamura in WWE? Why is the Miz a baby face? I couldn't pay attention to this match over how screwed up this all is. Hey Gargano, this is your future. Enjoy NXT while it lasts.

-Speaking of futures, Randy Orton has done nothing since 2009 and is still stinking up main events in 2019. Go away. This match was dreadful. Kofi's part was decent but the agenting was terrible.

-The match between Roman and Rowan and just the overall lack of emotion on the show was just jarring to me.

Thank you, Becky and Sasha.

 

[TheprofileofJericho]

5/10 from me. Very mediocre and boring PPV. The first 5 matches were basically average raw quality matches, that aren't even worth going in depth. Becky vs Sasha was great, but the finish was just awful. Randy vs Kofi was decent, but lacked the intensity their Summerslam match had. Really wanted Orton to win the title here, since the Kofi experiment is starting to wear off on me, and judging by the crowd reactions I am not alone. I poped for Harper returning in the Roman/Rowan match and that was about all I remember from it. The main event was just a worse version of the Brock/Seth match at Summerslam, so nothing too special for me. Props to Strowman though for that splash, crazy stuff. As I already stated I am not pleased with the Fiend going for the Universal title this early. Still I hope to god he wins, and Rollins doesn't become the Fiend slayer, UGH!

 

[edge4ever]

I am thoroughly convinced that wrestling fans are basically impossible to please. You could hand them nearly everything they want and because 1 or 2 things were slightly off, well, now it all sucks.

I’m all for calling the WWE out on their bs, but man, ya’ll will NEVER be happy lol

 

[bullyballmm]

I am thoroughly convinced that wrestling fans are basically impossible to please. You could hand them nearly everything they want and because 1 or 2 things were slightly off, well, now it all sucks.

I’m all for calling the WWE out on their bs, but man, ya’ll will NEVER be happy lol

They're fickle, just like D-Bry said.

WHY ARE YOU BOOING ME, I'M RIGHT!

 

[TheprofileofJericho]

I am thoroughly convinced that wrestling fans are basically impossible to please. You could hand them nearly everything they want and because 1 or 2 things were slightly off, well, now it all sucks.

I’m all for calling the WWE out on their bs, but man, ya’ll will NEVER be happy lol

Impossible to please? The problem is that the product has been awful for years now, and people are over-praising anything that isn't complete garbage, because they forgot how good wrestling can actually be.
I also don't agree with trashing everything just for the sake of trashing it, and I myself have enjoyed Raw for the past few months. But giving a show like this an 8, or a 9/10 is just madness. The buildup for the undercard was pretty much non-existent, and the first halt of the show were basically matches you could see on any episode on Raw, or SD, in other words meaningless filler. Oh but Becky and Sasha had a great match, or look the Fiend appeared for 2 mins. I guess the first hour and a half of this show being a complete meaningless bore was all worth it for 1 good match (that still had a bad ending), and 2 MINUTES OF THE FIEND. Like I said I don't agree with trashing, just for the sake of it, but I also won't accept mediocrity. Especially when it comes to PPV's. If you enjoyed the show that's great, I wish I could have too, but don't bitch about people not liking it, and label them as 100% haters.

 

[edge4ever]

Impossible to please? The problem is that the product has been awful for years now, and people are over-praising anything that isn't complete garbage, because they forgot how good wrestling can actually be.
I also don't agree with trashing everything just for the sake of trashing it, and I myself have enjoyed Raw for the past few months. But giving a show like this an 8, or a 9/10 is just madness. The buildup for the undercard was pretty much non-existent, and the first halt of the show were basically matches you could see on any episode on Raw, or SD, in other words meaningless filler. Oh but Becky and Sasha had a great match, or look the Fiend appeared for 2 mins. I guess the first hour and a half of this show being a complete meaningless bore was all worth it for 1 good match (that still had a bad ending), and 2 MINUTES OF THE FIEND. Like I said I don't agree with trashing, just for the sake of it, but I also won't accept mediocrity. Especially when it comes to PPV's. If you enjoyed the show that's great, I wish I could have too, but don't bitch about people not liking it, and label them as 100% haters.

No offense man, but you’re proving my point. The only thing I notice is that the fans claim they want certain things, like the fiend pushed, for example. Well, they push the fiend... oh, but, wait, they did it “wrong” and pushed him too fast or improperly and now the fiend sucks and blah blah blah...

I’m not saying the WWE is perfect and I’m fully aware they do very dumb Shit, but it seems like most fans, hardcore or not, could be handed a gold platter of gold, like with the fiend, and still trash the shit out of it.

 

[bullyballmm]

No offense man, but you’re proving my point. The only thing I notice is that the fans claim they want certain things, like the fiend pushed, for example. Well, they push the fiend... oh, but, wait, they did it “wrong” and pushed him too fast or improperly and now the fiend sucks and blah blah blah...

I’m not saying the WWE is perfect and I’m fully aware they do very dumb Shit, but it seems like most fans, hardcore or not, could be handed a gold platter of gold, like with the fiend, and still trash the shit out of it.

People are obsessed with being the booker these days and aren't happy unless the product is booked similar to how they want it. Awesome match between two great performers? Completely invalidated for some people just because they dislike the wrestler that got over to the point of disliking the rest of the show because of the outcome of one match.

It seems people enjoyed wrestling when they were younger because they didn't know "booking" was a thing. So they just enjoy the product instead of going into a show with a predetermined idea of how the whole show should pan out.

That's my real talk

 

[TheprofileofJericho]

No offense man, but you’re proving my point. The only thing I notice is that the fans claim they want certain things, like the fiend pushed, for example. Well, they push the fiend... oh, but, wait, they did it “wrong” and pushed him too fast or improperly and now the fiend sucks and blah blah blah...

I’m not saying the WWE is perfect and I’m fully aware they do very dumb Shit, but it seems like most fans, hardcore or not, could be handed a gold platter of gold, like with the fiend, and still trash the shit out of it.

How am I proving your point, and where did I say I don't want the Fiend getting pushed, or that he sucks? A push can only be archived by winning the Universal title? I don't like it because it doesn't make sense, I am a huge Bray fan (as my profile pic suggests). But what has he done in a kayfabe sense to deserve a Universal title match, beat Balor? I guess wanting someone to be built up like a legitimate contender, through win streaks is too much to ask. Lets just give title shots because people look at the title, or attack the champion. That will make the title feel great, and the person holding it even better (look at how well its working out for Rollins who we all praised a year ago).

 

[edge4ever]

How am I proving your point, and where did I say I don't want the Fiend getting pushed, or that he sucks? A push can only be archived by winning the Universal title? I don't like it because it doesn't make sense, I am a huge Bray fan (as my profile pic suggests). But what has he done in a kayfabe sense to deserve a Universal title match, beat Balor? I guess wanting someone to be built up like a legitimate contender, through win streaks is too much to ask. Lets just give title shots because people look at the title, or attack the champion. That will make the title feel great, and the person holding it even better (look at how well its working out for Rollins who we all praised a year ago).

??‍♂️ Never mind

 

[TheprofileofJericho]

??‍♂️ Never mind

Stick to playground insults not discussions, yeah?

 

[edge4ever]

Stick to playground insults not discussions, yeah?

Umm nope. Never did a playground insult, rather you’re missing the entire point and not worth my effort. I pick and choose my battles and what’s worth investing in, and it’s not worth it