I'm sorry but, Daniel Bryan is not the most charismatic wrestler on the roster. No one here has really given any justification as to how he is either. He's great for what he is. He's found something that works wonders for his character, but shouting one word loud and repetitively does not make you charismatic. By that logic, Ron Simmons would be one of the most charismatic wrestlers of the decade because, see how ridiculous that sounds? (I realise that I'm exaggerating to prove a point, but it's still a valid point) Bryan does have some charisma, but not at the level of Punk or Cena. Chris Jericho was the definition of charisma during his first run in the WWE, he could talk about literally anything and people would be fascinated or at least, interested. Cena and Punk can both do that to a lesser extent. Can you really say that about Bryan? I know that I can't. Some of his mic work as World Heavyweight Champion was questionable and became boring. He's best in small doses because his character is still very one dimensional. He's always been good at getting people to get behind what he says. Who else could get fans to chant, "You're Gonna Get Your Fucking Head Kicked In"? Bryan has his strengths, charisma is not one of them.
I don't think anyone on the current roster is as charismatic as Chris Jericho. It's natural for him. I don't find Cena and Punk that charismatic or entertaining though. I do think that Daniel Bryan is more charismatic, at the moment anyway. He pulls me in every time I see him on TV. I imitate him practically all the time. I only do this with wrestlers such as Jericho, Austin and The Rock. The fact that I also do this with Bryan now means that there is something about him that makes you want to tune in every week. From a fan's perspective, that is charisma.
You make a fair point except that Bryan has showed his range, he has proven that he can comedy very well, he can do deadpan too and I think it is also the passion he shows when winning or losing a match which really make fans believe in him. One of the reasons why I think he can stay near the top of the card for many years to come is because how flexible he is and how he can work a good match or feud with anyone.
YES! He can adjust to any role relatively easily and he is simply the greatest in the ring.
Charisma (n) - Compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.
I think Bryan has that down.
EXACTLY! Yes, he does. We buy his merchandise, we chant "YES" with our friends and we tune into Raw for him. Yup, that's a compelling attractiveness.
Hardly, you wouldn't know who he was if you met him on the street.
If you met someone like a Batista, you would know who it was instantly.
Batista wasn't anything special. I would definitely approach Bryan a lot quicker than Batista. Besides, Bryan has a wide range of fans. He has his ROH fans and his WWE fans. I am sure that a lot of people would know who he is. Oh and he recently had some interaction with Charlie Sheen so yes, I am pretty sure he is somewhat known. None of these wrestlers from today will be instantly spotted like The Rock or Austin but still, there are people that would recognize Bryan.
I'm sure any wrestling fan would recognize Bryan instantly, I'm not sure what you mean by this at all. Batista definitely has the "larger than life" look, but that doesn't necessarily scream "charisma." Bryan's easily the most compelling guy in WWE at the moment (probably would be Punk if they wouldn't be booking him so confusingly right now), and gets the crowd going more than anyone else at the moment whether he's wrestling, cutting a promo, or in some backstage segment.
Batista was not charismatic. Daniel Bryan is! You're right. He does have a compelling attractiveness. If he didn't, we would not waste our money on his merchandise!
I disagree. Bryan isnn't be known for having 'compelling attractiveness'. Plus, a lot of the devotion towards him from fans came from WrestleMania and AJ Lee, so you can't credit him with it.
That definition does describe Punk and Cena rather well though.
I'm not going to dive any further into a Google definition because it's pointless.
People were chanting "YES" before Wrestlemania. Does it really matter if he developed a more solid fan base after Mania? The point is that people enjoy watching him regardless if AJ Lee is on the screen or not. They have great chemistry. So did Jericho and Stephanie. There isn't anything wrong with that.
You're right, he's known for great wrestling ability, but the past few months he's exhibited a compelling attractiveness that tons of people have noticed (even the shit Bleacher Report writers who said he'd never amount to anything in WWE). If he didn't we wouldn't be having this discussion about him right now.
EXACTLY! The fact that writers are now praising him is definitely a good sign.
A few people saying things on the internet doesn't represent what is tops in the real world.
If that was true, then a show like Community would actually have an audience, instead of a few people who made a twitter account or facebook page to save it from being cancelled.
A few people? More like most of the audience on a weekly basis.
That really depends on the person, as world champion his gimmick didn't compell'.(Are we really having a conversation about Bryan's compelling attractiveness? :danielson
I found the whole "Oh, I'm better than everyone else because I'm a vegan" thing was kinda weak. Once again, that's all just my opinion.
It didn't work because they didn't go about it correctly. I don't see how saying, "I'm better than you because I don't do drugs, drink or smoke" is any different than "I'm better than you because I love animals and will therefore not eat them or anything produced by them." There are straight edge people and vegans that can relate to both wrestlers. Punk's gimmick worked a lot better. That's all it is.
Ok then how about a 1000 or more people in arena's week in and week out giving the guy a big pop? You can't agrue with the responses he has been getting on raw, SD and ppvs.
To be fair, you can't really gauge anything on Smackdown. I'm not saying the guy isn't over, I just simply stated that he isn't "the guy" to become the face of the WWE and thus the face of the business. The guy is good, but he isn't going to break mainsteam exposure neither is Punk.
He might not be the face of the company. I personally want him to be but I would like him to be in the main event a lot more often.
Honestly can't believe there was a comparison to The Rock in here.
New low.
Oh, come on. It wasn't a comparison. I was simply stating that The Rock wasn't exactly over and entertaining when he first started but that changed when he re-invented himself. Hence, why I feel that an entertainer can work on his/her charisma and entertainment skills.
Isn't that the point of being compelling? Not knowing what he's gonna do not know what direction he's gonna go, etc. I can very well see how people could find Bryan funny and entertaining but his character isn't meant to be compelling. Compelling is usually reserved for drama and that is definitely what is happening with Punk's current situation. People just wanna (not saying you are one of these people) narrow this situation with Punk as he's just bitching saying he wants respect the end ignoring the rest of it that makes it compelling as you've never seen a guy be champ for 9 months and yet not be the face of the WWE. Not to mention the connection to his motive from last year which if you go back and watch it was based around how much WWE didn't give him the respect he felt he deserved during his tenor in WWE and felt John Cena was one or the main guys in his way since he got perceived as the best. Just difference was it was based around him being rebel for the fans in the process.
This time it's the same motive basically just a little tweaked not feeling he gets his respect as WWE champion and John Cena is in his way again. Difference this time it's him not being the rebel for the crowd but him looking out for himself which is him headed down the heel path. Was vocal last time and got what he wanted so he's just going back to being vocal to try and get what he wants again just comes off as selfish this time. It's really a full circle storyline that people aren't picking up on which is a shame cause it really good.
Honestly, he isn't compelling at all right now. He was at this time last year because he did something that the audience enjoyed. This storyline simply isn't working because he comes off as a very insecure champion and it doesn't make any sense for him to be a heel. If he was a face and stating all of these things, it would make sense because we as fans actually do agree that he should be main eventing more often.
I've been with you defending Punk's new attitude since it happened and people started complaining, but there's just been things that don't make sense with it, like him not wanting the triple threat match at SummerSlam. It's like they're trying to see how the crowd reacts to him to see if they could turn him full heel without him getting the majority of the cheers (which probably won't happen), it's nothing to do with Punk right now, he's been great. It's just like WWE isn't exactly sure what they want to do at the moment.
Yes, I think it's the WWE's fault. There isn't anything wrong with CM Punk. This does goes to show though that if the writers don't do a good job with your storyline then even wrestlers like Punk and Cena can look awful.
Exactly, they're trying so hard to get Punk booed without resorting to cheap heat just like they did with Bryan before they realized they could just get him to pretend he didn't like the "YES!" chants. Don't think it'll be that easy with Punk.
I think the fans actually do like Daniel Bryan though. They just like to say "YES" when he says "NO" because they feel that they are a part of the show. I don't think it's cheap heat. The fans used to chant "WHAT?" when Austin came up with it because it was a fun thing to do. There wasn't anything cheap or silly about that either.
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