Praise for Daniel Bryan

[Deezy]

Charisma (n) - Compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.

I think Bryan has that down.

Hardly, you wouldn't know who he was if you met him on the street.

If you met someone like a Batista, you would know who it was instantly.

 

[Chris]

Hardly, you wouldn't know who he was if you met him on the street.

If you met someone like a Batista, you would know who it was instantly.

I'm sure any wrestling fan would recognize Bryan instantly, I'm not sure what you mean by this at all. Batista definitely has the "larger than life" look, but that doesn't necessarily scream "charisma." Bryan's easily the most compelling guy in WWE at the moment (probably would be Punk if they wouldn't be booking him so confusingly right now), and gets the crowd going more than anyone else at the moment whether he's wrestling, cutting a promo, or in some backstage segment.

 

[TKK]

Charisma (n) - Compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.

I think Bryan has that down.

I disagree. Bryan isnn't be known for having 'compelling attractiveness'. Plus, a lot of the devotion towards him from fans came from WrestleMania and AJ Lee, so you can't credit him with it.

That definition does describe Punk and Cena rather well though.

I'm not going to dive any further into a Google definition because it's pointless.

You make a fair point except that Bryan has showed his range, he has proven that he can comedy very well, he can do deadpan too and I think it is also the passion he shows when winning or losing a match which really make fans believe in him. One of the reasons why I think he can stay near the top of the card for many years to come is because how flexible he is and how he can work a good match or feud with anyone.

Fair point, but his character at the moment is one dimensional. 'The American Dragon', character is a completely different story.

 

[Chris]

I disagree. Bryan isnn't be known for having 'compelling attractiveness'. Plus, a lot of the devotion towards him from fans came from WrestleMania and AJ Lee, so you can't credit him with it.

That definition does describe Punk and Cena rather well though.

I'm not going to dive any further into a Google definition because it's pointless.

You're right, he's known for great wrestling ability, but the past few months he's exhibited a compelling attractiveness that tons of people have noticed (even the shit Bleacher Report writers who said he'd never amount to anything in WWE). If he didn't we wouldn't be having this discussion about him right now.

 

[Deezy]

A few people saying things on the internet doesn't represent what is tops in the real world.

If that was true, then a show like Community would actually have an audience, instead of a few people who made a twitter account or facebook page to save it from being cancelled.

 

[TKK]

You're right, he's known for great wrestling ability, but the past few months he's exhibited a compelling attractiveness that tons of people have noticed (even the shit Bleacher Report writers who said he'd never amount to anything in WWE). If he didn't we wouldn't be having this discussion about him right now.

That really depends on the person, as world champion his gimmick didn't compell'.(Are we really having a conversation about Bryan's compelling attractiveness? :danielson I found the whole "Oh, I'm better than everyone else because I'm a vegan" thing was kinda weak. Once again, that's all just my opinion.

 

[Keith]

A few people saying things on the internet doesn't represent what is tops in the real world.
If that was true, then a show like Community would actually have an audience, instead of a few people who made a twitter account or facebook page to save it from being cancelled.

Ok then how about a 1000 or more people in arena's week in and week out giving the guy a big pop? You can't agrue with the responses he has been getting on raw, SD and ppvs.

 

[Deezy]

That really depends on the person, as world champion his gimmick didn't compell'.(Are we really having a conversation about Bryan's compelling attractiveness? :danielson I found the whole "Oh, I'm better than everyone else because I'm a vegan" thing was kinda weak. Once again, that's all just my opinion.

Wholeheartedly agree with this, it's cheap heat and the better performers should shy away from that shit, it's like telling a crowd their sports teams suck. Or making fun of the country you are in.

 

[Chris]

Wholeheartedly agree with this, it's cheap heat and the better performers should shy away from that shit, it's like telling a crowd their sports teams suck. Or making fun of the country you are in.

Angle was king of that in 2000 and made it work though, but yeah, I'll agree with this. Vegan stuff didn't do anything for me, I'm glad they stopped that fairly quick.

 

[Deezy]

Ok then how about a 1000 or more people in arena's week in and week out giving the guy a big pop. You can't agrue with the responses he has been getting on raw, SD and ppvs.

To be fair, you can't really gauge anything on Smackdown. I'm not saying the guy isn't over, I just simply stated that he isn't "the guy" to become the face of the WWE and thus the face of the business. The guy is good, but he isn't going to break mainsteam exposure neither is Punk.

 

[Keith]

Angle was king of that in 2000 and made it work though, but yeah, I'll agree with this. Vegan stuff didn't do anything for me, I'm glad they stopped that fairly quick.

Don't always mind stuff like that as long as they keep it fresh. Also it is good to make the insult personally to which ever city you are in rather just saying the same stuff no matter where you are.

 

[The Cork]

Honestly can't believe there was a comparison to The Rock in here.

New low.

 

[PHX]

I'm sure any wrestling fan would recognize Bryan instantly, I'm not sure what you mean by this at all. Batista definitely has the "larger than life" look, but that doesn't necessarily scream "charisma." Bryan's easily the most compelling guy in WWE at the moment (probably would be Punk if they wouldn't be booking him so confusingly right now), and gets the crowd going more than anyone else at the moment whether he's wrestling, cutting a promo, or in some backstage segment.

Isn't that the point of being compelling? Not knowing what he's gonna do not know what direction he's gonna go, etc. I can very well see how people could find Bryan funny and entertaining but his character isn't meant to be compelling. Compelling is usually reserved for drama and that is definitely what is happening with Punk's current situation. People just wanna (not saying you are one of these people) narrow this situation with Punk as he's just bitching saying he wants respect the end ignoring the rest of it that makes it compelling as you've never seen a guy be champ for 9 months and yet not be the face of the WWE. Not to mention the connection to his motive from last year which if you go back and watch it was based around how much WWE didn't give him the respect he felt he deserved during his tenor in WWE and felt John Cena was one or the main guys in his way since he got perceived as the best. Just difference was it was based around him being rebel for the fans in the process.

This time it's the same motive basically just a little tweaked not feeling he gets his respect as WWE champion and John Cena is in his way again. Difference this time it's him not being the rebel for the crowd but him looking out for himself which is him headed down the heel path. Was vocal last time and got what he wanted so he's just going back to being vocal to try and get what he wants again just comes off as selfish this time. It's really a full circle storyline that people aren't picking up on which is a shame cause it really good.

 

[Chris]

Isn't that the point of being compelling? Not knowing what he's gonna do not know what direction he's gonna go, etc. I can very well see how people could find Bryan funny and entertaining but his character isn't meant to be compelling. Compelling is usually reserved for drama and that is definitely what is happening with Punk's current situation. People just wanna (not saying you are one of these people) narrow this situation with Punk as he's just bitching saying he wants respect the end ignoring the rest of it that makes it compelling as you've never seen a guy be champ for 9 months and yet not be the face of the WWE. Not to mention the connection to his motive from last year which if you go back and watch it was based around how much WWE didn't give him the respect he felt he deserved during his tenor in WWE and felt John Cena was one or the main guys in his way since he got perceived as the best. Just difference was it was based around him being rebel for the fans in the process.

This time it's the same motive basically just a little tweaked not feeling he gets his respect as WWE champion and John Cena is in his way again. Difference this time it's him not being the rebel for the crowd but him looking out for himself which is him headed down the heel path. Was vocal last time and got what he wanted so he's just going back to being vocal to try and get what he wants again just comes off as selfish this time. It's really a full circle storyline that people aren't picking up on which is a shame cause it really good.

I've been with you defending Punk's new attitude since it happened and people started complaining, but there's just been things that don't make sense with it, like him not wanting the triple threat match at SummerSlam. It's like they're trying to see how the crowd reacts to him to see if they could turn him full heel without him getting the majority of the cheers (which probably won't happen), it's nothing to do with Punk right now, he's been great. It's just like WWE isn't exactly sure what they want to do at the moment.

 

[PHX]

I've been with you defending Punk's new attitude since it happened and people started complaining, but there's just been things that don't make sense with it, like him not wanting the triple threat match at SummerSlam. It's like they're trying to see how the crowd reacts to him to see if they could turn him full heel without him getting the majority of the cheers (which probably won't happen), it's nothing to do with Punk right now, he's been great. It's just like WWE isn't exactly sure what they want to do at the moment.

Yeah I agree with that part of it I wasn't a fan of him acting like he didn't want the 3 way but I think it's cause they wanted to sway the crowd to boo him without having him diss the crowd. Sadly I think this is them wanting Punk to get booed so much so that going into Boston Cena gets most of the crowd support like Punk got in Chicago but they're gonna be disappointed if that is the plan cause Punk pretty much got the east coast fans on his side no matter what.