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So he must have had this planned for some time. How sick. The more that comes out about this the more sick and heart breaking it is. I will never understand what goes through a person's mind when they do this.
I don't think he was going there and using gay apps because he was planning but because he was actually gay and to add to that, something other than religion was his motive of shooting the place up.

My guess is that he felt ashamed of himself for being gay.
 

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I don't think he was going there and using gay apps because he was planning but because he was actually gay and to add to that, something other than religion was his motive of shooting the place up.

My guess is that he felt ashamed of himself for being gay.

He declared it in the name of ISIS before he shot the place up. Whatever happened, it shouldn't have. No one, gay or straight should ever be forced to feel the need to kill others or themselves.
 

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This whole situation is just heart breaking.
 

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He declared it in the name of ISIS before he shot the place up. Whatever happened, it shouldn't have. No one, gay or straight should ever be forced to feel the need to kill others or themselves.
"Apparently he also claimed allegiance/membership to Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, and ISIS... despite all three organizations being enemies of each other."

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EDIT: A Muslim who went to gays bars and drank there doesn't sound very devout to me.
 

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"Apparently he also claimed allegiance/membership to Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, and ISIS... despite all three organizations being enemies of each other."

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EDIT: A Muslim who went to gays bars and drank there doesn't sound very devout to me.

He could have been a self-hating Muslim. I know self-hating people of all religions. Either way, it was likely just him hating who is was and making other people pay for it. I just don't see any logic at all in that. It is just sick and sad.
 

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This guy threatened to shoot his school in 5th grade. Why was he not being on watch 24/7 if he has such a terrible history?
 

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This guy threatened to shoot his school in 5th grade. Why was he not being on watch 24/7 if he has such a terrible history?

Sounds like this is a case of being ashamed of who he was, he was likely bullied for it. Either way, there is more than enough issues that SHOULD make any state keep an eye on him. As I mentioned before, I don't blame guns or religion, I blame the government and the state for not handling his cases better. He clearly had his demons (issues).