No More Happy Endings - Once Upon a Time Mafia Game Thread

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Until Lethal actually posts again - I don't think I can really push either of the three soft theories. I don't think it help when in the original Jeff vs. Lethal exchange - both feel aggrieved and both feel the other was the instigator. My viewpoint on the situation will be looked at again - once I see more content.
 

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Also Day 1 lasts 54 hours - so until the activity of someone of the most quiet players pick up - I don't think looking for scum out of the nosiest or most active is always wise. I do however think, at least one person who has last posts than Smark with 100% flip mafia:

CK, John Henry, Shade, Baldrick, Wang, Phenom or Pendex

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Also Day 1 lasts 54 hours - so until the activity of someone of the most quiet players pick up - I don't think looking for scum out of the nosiest or most active is always wise. I do however think, at least one person who has last posts than Smark with 100% flip mafia:

CK, John Henry, Shade, Baldrick, Wang, Phenom or Pendex

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I do believe the odds are with you on this. Simple math.

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Also Day 1 lasts 54 hours - so until the activity of someone of the most quiet players pick up - I don't think looking for scum out of the nosiest or most active is always wise. I do however think, at least one person who has last posts than Smark with 100% flip mafia:

CK, John Henry, Shade, Baldrick, Wang, Phenom or Pendex

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I'm happy to have some scrutiny my way. I do agree there is a strong chance of mafia hiding especially in this early going. I'm NGL, I've been a bit distracted due to some health issues. But I'm not going to read too much into what equates to one long drawn out argument. I took Sky's vote as a shitpost joke, it's day one and these things happen. It seems to have really been blown out of proportion in my eyes.

Also if you are using that poster of the Mag 7. Can I be Billy?
 
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No, it doesn't. It's a nonsense vote with zero follow up over one of the most ridiculous reasonings I've encountered.

Hopefully activity picks up soon, or this is gonna drag
I think it's fairly implicit that the vote was random, dressed up with a shade of reasoning because... it's essentially random. Whether you dislike the random voting stage or not, attacking the reasoning of the vote when it's obviously not made based on anything strong doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I'm here. I'll probably be in and out quite a bit today. Tuesdays are pretty busy days for me at work.
I don't know why you needed to excuse your absence? Do you do this regularly (explain your activity status)?
to further this conversation, Sky herself said it's "just to get things moving" saying herself it's just a vote for the sake of a vote (her reasons are obviously a joke unless you are being obtuse). so again, the pot shots and aggression are unwarranted.
At the risk of playing both sides here - with Sky's vote being random, I don't know why you felt the need to answer? If the purpose is obviously to promote discussion, Sky could have partook in this but you're answering questions that you don't actually need to answer.
I thought it was quite clearly a joke vote and something I’ve seen happen countless times before, albeit not from Sky as I’ve not played with them.
I'm not sure why you needed to qualify this with "but I've not seen it from Sky" when you haven't played with them. If it were out of character, someone more familiar would have pointed it out, or could have been asked at least (you haven't done this), so all this really serves is to softly defend the vote (correctly, but still) and then couch it. Scum lean.
Semantics
Except not really. It's a valid part of the discussion, dismissing it as semantical doesn't help your position on this.
Okay I'm going to chalk this up to Lethal being miserable. Especially given how hard he doubles down in the next pages, he's good enough to know that this is reflecting badly on him so it's got to be legit

Ultimately NAI but I'd lean town as I don't feel he'd let himself attract heat if he wasn't
I dislike how you've assumed emotions on Lethal's part here. The rest is fine, and I like how you've done the reverse of what Manda did because you start with a position that it's NAI but then explain why it could lean town.
No strong read on Silent Bite or Mando right now.
I would be concerned if you had a strong read on pretty much anyone at this point, without a strong grasp of meta.
Yeah it was nice the game started last night and I didn't come in to 17 pages.
Tfw I came into 19 and then 20. Not much of it worth it, either.
From my POV you jumped at the first opportunity you could to white knight. Any other player and you'd not take a second look. Hypocritical of you to suggest it's emotional in any way, shape or form though. I see you're gonna be that guy this game. Cool.
I find it somewhat interesting that you see this as "white knighting", because you kind of remove the possibility that there is scum motivation at play. I was reading it as potentially scum wanting to look good defending a townie (not a lean really, it just plausible in my mind) so for you to just work right past that angle and into it being personally motivated strikes me as... odd. Perhaps even TMI indicative.
anyways thanks for admitting you just want to act like a jerk lethal, it took a while but we got there. Hopefully can move on now
I don't think this helps the atmosphere you purported to want to see here?
you have been gaslighting me and trying to perpetuate this fight for the entirety of the game. annoying as hell and already making me remember why i didnt want to play anymore.
Pathos. I appreciate that I may come across as rather tasteless here, but the "why I didn't want to play any more", whether it be intentional or not, invokes an emotional response.
and now, everyone in this thread probably is already annoyed as hell and you've set the tone. wonderfully done mate. be proud!
I dislike you absolving your own agency on this. Lean scum.
It's his username on another forum we play at. PHEN0M would also know :)
Worse than dead... forgotten...
I'm not sure still, I don't think his original posts, in hindsight, we trying to provoke me. I think his further provokations are likelier to be driven by him being being equally agitated by my responses to him? as I said a bit further, my only big issue is him using the "ducking" verbiage . felt like i was being trolled hard. he has since admitted to it being shade. not 100% what to make of that. need more data i guess, as atm its difficult for me not let my own emotions/omgus ( know he didnt vote, but u know what i mean) influence my analysis
Earlier, now forgive me I've mixed you up here, but I believed that you agreed with Sky that it would be more likely to come from Town Lethal than Scum Lethal. Is there a reason you didn't mention that here? By which I mean, has that position changed, or did it slip your mind, etc.
I'm not Smark?

Anyway I think this is a silly little rabbit hole.
The entire thread has been drowned in this "silly little rabbit hole", quite frankly.
Why does Lethal vs Jeff early seemed fake? Why are we getting heated over nothing?
I don't agree that it was fake, actually. If I came away with one thing here, it was that they are probably not scum buddies. The way the discussion escalated - if that was scripted, I'm fooled. Can you explain why it came across as fake to you?
Honestly my brain is fried at the moment I have had a really shitty past 48 hours so I am mentally not 100% here atm. I did just get out of work too so I'm tired lol.
Pathos, and also we don't really need to know why you're not posting. It was the same with Tommy earlier, unless you're concerned about how the thread perceives you I don't know why you care about not posting right away. I've been the example I want to make here.

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I feel like the major discussions have gone nowhere really, and we are scraping the bottom of the barrel to get something talked about. Holistically, I haven't felt like anyone has tried to leverage the discussion to lean into suspicions or lynches, but I haven't got any further conclusion that that currently.

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Until Lethal actually posts again - I don't think I can really push either of the three soft theories. I don't think it help when in the original Jeff vs. Lethal exchange - both feel aggrieved and both feel the other was the instigator. My viewpoint on the situation will be looked at again - once I see more content.
I an getting the sense that there isn't a whole lot of process behind these thoughts. Surely you must have some leaning as to which scenario it would be (or if none of them applied)?
Also Day 1 lasts 54 hours - so until the activity of someone of the most quiet players pick up - I don't think looking for scum out of the nosiest or most active is always wise. I do however think, at least one person who has last posts than Smark with 100% flip mafia:

CK, John Henry, Shade, Baldrick, Wang, Phenom or Pendex

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In my defence, my second post is worth at least, like 5.
 
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I don't know why you needed to excuse your absence? Do you do this regularly (explain your activity status)?
I started doing it after my first game here, and I’d seen some others do it. The first time I played, I was out of town the weekend the game started and immediately became a suspect.
 

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Also Day 1 lasts 54 hours - so until the activity of someone of the most quiet players pick up - I don't think looking for scum out of the nosiest or most active is always wise. I do however think, at least one person who has last posts than Smark with 100% flip mafia:

CK, John Henry, Shade, Baldrick, Wang, Phenom or Pendex

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I see Ekko on the player list on page 1, haven’t seen anything from him, and notice that he didn’t make your list of people who have posted less than Smark? Oversight?
 

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I started doing it after my first game here, and I’d seen some others do it. The first time I played, I was out of town the weekend the game started and immediately became a suspect.
I suppose I can buy it as a sort of paranoiac defence if you have had a bad experience with not having done so before. How many games have you played since? I assume, not many?
 

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I suppose I can buy it as a sort of paranoiac defence if you have had a bad experience with not having done so before. How many games have you played since? I assume, not many?
This is my fifth game here, sixth overall.
 

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Also, one of those games I repped in near the end.
 

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This is my fifth game here, sixth overall.
Right, that fits. I tend to associate posts like that with scum who are concerned about being seen to be present in the thread, without actually doing so. Your reasoning is plausible.

Was that the only thing in the post that you felt you could comment on? I gave at least two reads, was hoping for some engagement from them.