Manchester Derby Discussion Thread

[seabs]

Fletcher has lost his legs from the bits I've seen the illness has ruined him imo.

 

[seabs]

Re: RE: Manchester Derby Discussion Thread

Agreed. Rio is a pretty clever defender now though and is great i the air, if he plays well I'm fine, but I much prefer Smalling or Jones. But Rio is a leader so meh.

Mario is playing, if he plays well then we could be fucked. If he doesn't then it']s like 60 minutes of them having one striker in Kun.

Rio will be an asset to defend set pieces agreed but wouldn't Smalling with Rooney as skipper work out a bit better?

 

[Crayo]

Is Fletch fit enough yet? If so why the hell is he playing Carrick over him? The guy's pish. That defence is pretty weak as well, aside from Evans pretty much all of the back 5 can be bombscares. The front 4 is fantastic though - not sure how City will play but expecting an exciting game.

Fletch is fit, I'm glad he's not playing. He's lost his pace and United don't know the meaning of pressing, and any football fan knows you can't do good pressing unless you press as a team, Fletcher would just run around like a headless chicken on his own with our lazy bastards behind & in front of him.

Rafael is our most MOTM'd player this season, he's been terrific. Evra is hit or miss, mostly miss. Rio is the same but mostly hit atm.

Carrick is shit, I despise him, but he is still one of the most composed passers in the league. We need a bit of possession and he can give us it.

 

[Roi]

Go city ! Go silva :gusta:

 

[Crayo]

Rio will be an asset to defend set pieces agreed but wouldn't Smalling with Rooney as skipper work out a bit better?

Definitely. Smalling dominated Carrol against West Ham, not many defenders can say the same. Smalling is so underrated, I love the guy.

 

[JeebaK]

You're so outdated. 4-4-2 is a disgusting old fashioned formation that does not work any more.

Something that worked before doesnt suddenly stop working. Just because Barcelona and Madrid and Spain are playing a 4 -2 - 3 - 1 doesnt mean we have to copy them and change our formation.

United still plays the best with a 4 - 4 - 2 formation.

If you play a 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 formation you need midfielders who can make runs behind defenders. United doesnt have any such midfielder except Kagawa. United play more of a wing based attack. If they want to play 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 first of all they need to change their style of play, wing play wouldnt work with a 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 formation.

 

[Crayo]

Something that worked before doesnt suddenly stop working. Just because Barcelona and Madrid and Spain are playing a 4 -2 - 3 - 1 doesnt mean we have to copy them and change our formation.

United still plays the best with a 4 - 4 - 2 formation.

If you play a 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 formation you need midfielders who can make runs behind defenders. United doesnt have any such midfielder except Kagawa. United play more of a wing based attack. If they want to play 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 first of all they need to change their style of play, wing play wouldnt work with a 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 formation.

Yes it does stop working suddenly, football evolves. Rooney plays the CAM role arguably the best in the BPL with Silva and Cazorla, so I'm happy with 4-2-3-1.

 

[Rysenberg]

Fletcher has lost his legs from the bits I've seen the illness has ruined him imo.

Fletch is fit, I'm glad he's not playing. He's lost his pace and United don't know the meaning of pressing, and any football fan knows you can't do good pressing unless you press as a team, Fletcher would just run around like a headless chicken on his own with our lazy bastards behind & in front of him.

Rafael is our most MOTM'd player this season, he's been terrific. Evra is hit or miss, mostly miss. Rio is the same but mostly hit atm.

Carrick is shit, I despise him, but he is still one of the most composed passers in the league. We need a bit of possession and he can give us it.

Fletcher's pace was never really an asset for him though? Still I'm not surprised he's weaker after that injury, so horrible for the guy. He was one of the best defensive CMs in the world prior to it.

Rafael? Seriously? I remembered him being dodgy as hell lol. Evra seems like he's still good at attacking but just shaky defensively. With regards to Ferdinand I can kind of see why Fergie still plays him, I wouldn't myself but is he not a kind of leader at the back?

If you're looking for composed passers then you might as well go Scholes IMO, he's a better passer than Carrick and he's probably not that much slower. Not sure if he can do 90 minutes now though I guess, especially against shitty.

 

[Rysenberg]

Definitely. Smalling dominated Carrol against West Ham, not many defenders can say the same. Smalling is so underrated, I love the guy.

Nobody dominates him. Carroll > all

 

[Crayo]

Fletcher's pace was never really an asset for him though? Still I'm not surprised he's weaker after that injury, so horrible for the guy. He was one of the best defensive CMs in the world prior to it.

Rafael? Seriously? I remembered him being dodgy as hell lol. Evra seems like he's still good at attacking but just shaky defensively. With regards to Ferdinand I can kind of see why Fergie still plays him, I wouldn't myself but is he not a kind of leader at the back?

If you're looking for composed passers then you might as well go Scholes IMO, he's a better passer than Carrick and he's probably not that much slower. Not sure if he can do 90 minutes now though I guess, especially against shitty.

Not really a factor on why he was good, but it made it easier for hmi to do the things he was good at, if that makes sense. Fletcher was a battler, a warrior, he pressed and won the ball better than most. He was grossly underrated and I'm marking out that you hold him in the same high regard I did too. His injury was a disease and it took him ages to recover, he's not at his best yet at all.

And yeah Rafael is still sometimes dodgy, he does silly things and gets yellow cards but he ALWAYS tries more than any other player, he's committed, he presses, he goes forward, he's brave, he's a great tackler, he's been our best player behind RVP probably. I know right, if I said this last year I'd be like :haha:

Scholes is a better passer, he's the best in the BPL, but he's 39. He can't do the job Carrick can do unfortunately. I don't see Scholes tussling with Yaya, though I don't see Carrick doing that either :haha:

Nobody dominates him. Carroll > all

I gave Xanth some Carrol a couple nights ago. Scored 4 goals against him with the beast.

 

[Crayo]

Tom Cruise is here :yay:

 

[seabs]

Cleverly needs to basically stalk Yaya, every where he goes he has to follow him no one else has the energy.

 

[Crayo]

Cleverly needs to basically stalk Yaya, every where he goes he has to follow him no one else has the energy.

Whilst I agree, Yaya has been really poor by his standards this year. Most games he's out of it for like 88 minutes. But when he's in it, they're a different team.

 

[Crayo]

What I must say though, the longer these two dominate the BPL, the closer this match gets to the El Classico in terms of derby's.

 

[seabs]

I agree he hasn't been great and say he doesn't perform for those 88 minutes would you want him charging at Rio 1on 1 for the two he is on? I wouldn't personally.