Jonathan Gresham has asked for his AEW/ROH release

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What a wild month this has been, hasn't it?
 
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2022 is gonna be remembered in wrestling as a watermark year, just like 1985, 1996, and 2001. :banderas:
 

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For sure. Only the hardcore ROH fans know who he was. I only got until into him because if people here praising him last year.

If he’s not too jaded, Impact would know what to do with him and they’ve become a home for OG ROH.

Imagine if he joins Honor No More?
That last part was kind of sort of teased on Impact but nothing ever really came of it besides Eddie Edwards joining HNM.
 

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Impact would be a great spot for him, they already used him really well earlier this year in his appearances
 

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After seeing this spoiler, I cant be bothered with watching the rest of the PPV now. RIP ROH
 
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More details on Jonathan Gresham-AEW, talent relations process in AEW
Fightful Select has learned many additional details about the lead up to Jonathan Gresham requesting his AEW/ROH release.
We're told that Gresham met with Tony Khan and others at 4 PM EST before Death Before Dishonor, and was admittedly heated, and not happy with the direction of the booking and his character. It was agreed upon that the context of the conversation would remain private, and details originally didn't seem to emerge from anyone in the room, however by the time the conversation was over, much of the locker room and staff could physically hear how it went down. Building security was even said to have overheard the conversation.
Gresham had spoken with QT Marshall multiple times over the past week, albeit briefly, which we've heard went well. It was also noted that Sonjay Dutt was a point of contact. The frustration on Gresham's part seemed to be the direction of creative, which ultimately ends with Tony Khan, and not being able to be given answers as a result. Gresham was supposedly told that those decisions had to be ran through Tony, who he wasn't able to meet with until a few hours before the show.
The general preferred process is that talent speaks to one of the AEW coaches, who are then in contact with Tony Khan. If the conversations are about booking, they have to be relayed to Tony Khan. The coaches pass on dozens of ideas either from themselves or talent to Khan, who is then in charge of making those ideas a reality or deciding they don't fit. Those answers are then to be relayed back to the talent. For those asking about names involved in that, it's usually AEW coaches, as well as Christopher Daniels, QT Marshall, Pat Buck. We're told that Megha Parekh and Sonjay Dutt also help out and Khan is in communication with them at least ten times a day.
There are also plenty of situations in which Tony Khan has made efforts to talk directly to talent, although numerous have said that it's declined since the Daily's Place era due to the changing of the world and travel in general.
It was said that the AEW side of things believed that Gresham came into the meeting with his mind made up, and they'd not seen him heated like that before, chalking it up to Gresham being passionate about his beliefs in ROH, the brand, and himself. They felt as if there was a disconnect between the access to speak with people about their creative, and it becoming perceived "creative control." Gresham was said to have a vision for his creative direction and where things should go with him, and it was different from what Tony Khan and ROH had hoped for him. Specifically, we learned that Gresham wasn't in favor of turning heel, but that ROH believed there was a "bigger picture" for that. We're told that the finish had been at least hinted to Gresham, but no word on if he knew before Saturday.
In the past, several former AEW talent have spoken about the lack of communication within talent relations being a point of frustration for them. Joey Janela confirmed to Fightful that he hadn't reached out to AEW coaches prior to his exit. Marko Stunt had emailed AEW in an official capacity, but we haven't heard about follow up to coaches themselves on his part.
 

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At the end of the day, there’s blame to be put on both sides. Gresham, as a talent has to come up with ideas for his character if he doesn’t like the direction he’s going.

And if you’re the boss, you can’t have a story coming out every 2-3 months about how you don’t know how to communicate. Especially if you’re dead set on having everything come back to you.

Sounds like things could’ve handled better by both parties.

If they can’t come to a resolution, let Gresham walk. No sense in keeping a disgruntled employee.
 

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Cesaro deserved to win. Man up and go back to the gym.

Edit: Sorry, I know bein' KIF I'm really allowed to say those things anymore. I enjoyed the match and after it, I was like this could went 10, maybe 20 minutes more if it was the main event. I was like Gresham should have learned a lot from this match and came back with a better, more focused effort. So him actin' like this is just pretty disappointin' to me.
 
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At the end of the day, there’s blame to be put on both sides. Gresham, as a talent has to come up with ideas for his character if he doesn’t like the direction he’s going.

And if you’re the boss, you can’t have a story coming out every 2-3 months about how you don’t know how to communicate. Especially if you’re dead set on having everything come back to you.

Sounds like things could’ve handled better by both parties.

If they can’t come to a resolution, let Gresham walk. No sense in keeping a disgruntled employee.
Only thing ill say is that it seems like they did talk n communicate, just that Gresham didnt like the outcome of said convo n doesnt seem to agree w tk's vision of roh or his character. Reading between the lines it sounds like he didnt want to turn heel n b the fotc
 
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He really should parlay this into an awesome heel run.
 
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