Jonathan Gresham has asked for his AEW/ROH release

[Comrade Khan]

A story of attempting to talk to wrestling fans lmao

Fwiw i only think not talling to Gresham is an issye. Idgaf if tk ghosts jobbers

 

[Comrade Khan]

I agree and that’s my point.

Gresham I feel acted out in frustration that Claudio got hired and was immediately booked to dethrone him. He probably wouldn’t have been as upset if asked to drop the belt to someone from ROH last year, but this shows in his mind how little Tony thinks he can build a brand on him to have to bring in an “outsider” for lack of a better for it.

That’s what I’m saying. I don’t feel he got frustrated at Tony until he was told Claudio is going over. And maybe even with the match itself. The tag team match has build and stakes. His match felt like a throwaway weekly television title defense.

Claudio is an roh guy 1st tho...he needs to get over himself if the reason hes mad is he had to lay down for a vet. Claudio going over was 100% the right call.

If he was annoyed at the tully wtf stuff n his random heel turn on aew n the bad booking leading up to it, im all ears n hed have a point. But he doesnt get to choose who he drops the belt to thats not how that works.

 

[Roy Mustang]

I agree and that’s my point.

Gresham I feel acted out in frustration that Claudio got hired and was immediately booked to dethrone him. He probably wouldn’t have been as upset if asked to drop the belt to someone from ROH last year, but this shows in his mind how little Tony thinks he can build a brand on him to have to bring in an “outsider” for lack of a better for it.

That’s what I’m saying. I don’t feel he got frustrated at Tony until he was told Claudio is going over. And maybe even with the match itself. The tag team match has build and stakes. His match felt like a throwaway weekly television title defense.

I mean if it is over losing the match I feel less bad for him. Whilst talented and not to blame for ROH going down, Claudio is a much bigger name and will draw more people to a new brand. I agree with TK booking Gresham to lose (plus the guy had the belt for 200 plus days) but Gresham was booked very poorly otherwise

 

[Smart Marx]

Gresham wasnt really holdimg anything down thougb Smark, the company died under him and he didnt really draw. I love Gresham n rate him high, but theres a reason tge whole arena was screaming for Claudio n Gresham came out to murmurs in AEW. I agree TK has to promote him better, 100%. But hes also trying to sell a product to tv atm, n yea, Claudio is a much more attractive package as your ace. Fucking sucks fkr Gresham no doubt but he could also ykno...go put on a clinic n show everyone why tk is wrong. But he didnt last night

I don’t disagree with this. It’s just the randomness of putting the belt on the new guy you just signed. To him it felt like you don’t see anything in me if you just want to fan service the Cesaro should be world champion crowd that have been saying that for years etc.

Even if Tony wanted it to be Cesaro. Build that match up longer on television and maybe do the switch in September or October.

I also don’t think it’s fair to say it died under him. He didn’t win the belt until the original owner’s final show at Final Battle, but I agree he wasn’t drawing interest in the interim.

 

[Comrade Khan]

But ya, its a tough argument w no roh tv show. 3 hours to cram 2 companies (3 at FD) is impossible. Tk been booking roh pretty on the fly so im not shocked someome got that pissed.

 

[Y2Jayne]

He deactivated his Twitter account.

 

[Smart Marx]

Claudio is an roh guy 1st tho...he needs to get over himself if the reason hes mad is he had to lay down for a vet. Claudio going over was 100% the right call.

If he was annoyed at the tully wtf stuff n his random heel turn on aew n the bad booking leading up to it, im all ears n hed have a point. But he doesnt get to choose who he drops the belt to thats not how that works.

Originally, yeah, but he’s been a WWE guy for a decade now. I think anyway. He debuted sometime by 2012 I believe. I also agree Claudio was the right call.

I just get why he’s frustrated. I’m hoping he calms down and realizes he’s being overdramatic and Tony can fill him in on what the plans are for him.

I also agree he doesn’t get to control his booking, but I’d also liken it Sasha. Sometimes the passion for what you’re doing and how you feel you’re being used or where the brand is going overrides your logic.

 

[Comrade Khan]

I don’t disagree with this. It’s just the randomness of putting the belt on the new guy you just signed. To him it felt like you don’t see anything in me if you just want to fan service the Cesaro should be world champion crowd that have been saying that for years etc.

Even if Tony wanted it to be Cesaro. Build that match up longer on television and maybe do the switch in September or October.

I also don’t think it’s fair to say it died under him. He didn’t win the belt until the original owner’s final show at Final Battle, but I agree he wasn’t drawing interest in the interim.

I agree its random . But also no tv so i think context still matters.i think they should have built it up way btr but...i have a suspicion bryan going down forced claudio into bcc early. I have no proof but it would track timeline wise w what tk said at FD presser. So the built got sacrificed for blood n guts. Which ya i could see that sucking for gresham but from aew perspective they needed to plug a hole for a ppv.

All that said I still think hes over reacting n that tk was interested at pushing him. Just roh gonna b a bigger pond, so hes not the big fish by default

 

[Comrade Khan]

Originally, yeah, but he’s been a WWE guy for a decade now. I think anyway. He debuted sometime by 2012 I believe. I also agree Claudio was the right call.

I just get why he’s frustrated. I’m hoping he calms down and realizes he’s being overdramatic and Tony can fill him in on what the plans are for him.

I also agree he doesn’t get to control his booking, but I’d also liken it Sasha. Sometimes the passion for what you’re doing and how you feel you’re being used or where the brand is going overrides your logic.

I get u.

Id say w sasha she has years pent up so slightly different context, but same principle. I doubt tk holds him hostage tho

 

[JakeYourBooty]

End of the day it won’t effect ROH/AEW at all


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[Chris]

End of the day it won’t effect ROH/AEW at all


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This is sadly true lol

 

[Cwalker]

He wants out, let him out. Hopefully he gets his head on straight and figures out what his next move is.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Booty is right, Gresham rules but they'll just keep going. They have lots of young technical wrestlers

 

[Comrade Khan]

Fucking wild they had a booking disagreement with Gresham before RUSH

 

[Smart Marx]

Booty is right, Gresham rules but they'll just keep going. They have lots of young technical wrestlers

For sure. Only the hardcore ROH fans know who he was. I only got until into him because if people here praising him last year.

If he’s not too jaded, Impact would know what to do with him and they’ve become a home for OG ROH.

Imagine if he joins Honor No More?