Have they waited too long for a Cena heel turn?

[HHHBestHeelEver]

i think the only way they could get heat for cena and make him a heel is by cena betraying the cenation..., that would be shocky and stuff, maybe with the "im tired i do all thsi for you and you boo me and chant cena sucks" and turn on them..
Sadly, they have used that angle with punk already, and tbh... didn´t work

 

[Stopspot]

i think the only way they could get heat for cena and make him a heel is by cena betraying the cenation..., that would be shocky and stuff, maybe with the "im tired i do all thsi for you and you boo me and chant cena sucks" and turn on them..
Sadly, they have used that angle with punk already, and tbh... didn´t work

You mean the old Hulk Hogan heel turn from WCW when he turned on the Hulkamaniacs? Yeah it is a proven style of heel turn that usually works if done right.

 

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Re: RE: Have they waited too long for a Cena heel turn?

Sorry for dragging down the intellectuals ITT with my immature tomfoolery. I now understand that it is only OK for the bossman to use such antics. I shall from this point hence forward never engage in these types of shenanigans again.

You may now return to your everso fresh topic of discussing a potential Cena heel turn. Because that dead horse hasn't been beaten enough times.

Whilst the horse has been beaten regarding the turn I can't say we've ever had an in depth discussion of whether the trigger should have been pulled earlier as it's now become a stale concept before its occurrence, I think you posted on it before with the Cena already being heel to the majority theory though actually so I may be wrong in this aspect.

 

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Re: RE: Have they waited too long for a Cena heel turn?

You mean the old Hulk Hogan heel turn from WCW when he turned on the Hulkamaniacs? Yeah it is a proven style of heel turn that usually works if done right.

Would make the haters cheer him imo, ideally he needs to be corporate to gain heat from all sides and even that probably won't work.

 

[HHHBestHeelEver]

You mean the old Hulk Hogan heel turn from WCW when he turned on the Hulkamaniacs? Yeah it is a proven style of heel turn that usually works if done right.

if done right being the keyword...
look at what they did with punk, they tried it and the people were confussed? it took them weeks to realize he was a heel, and even now he´s not getting all the heat he wants in fact ive seen some shows where supercena (the top babyface) gets more heat than punk (the top heel)
but like you said, if is done right it could work

 

[Stopspot]

Would make the haters cheer him imo, ideally he needs to be corporate to gain heat from all sides and even that probably won't work.

Who would lead a new corporation? HHH? would that work considering a lot of fans know him for his time in DX as an anti authority figure. Cena would fit well in a corporate stable though but as you said no guarantee it will work.

 

[CM Punk]

1) Can be done with a gimmick change, doesn't need a heel turn.
2) Same as above.
3) Same as above.
4) So you want him winning all the time? Isn't that the main complaint from internet fans about current Cena?

1) If you actually believe Cena is gonna get a gimmick change, you're mistaken. We'll just get an add-on to him. Ex. Aggressive Super Cena
2. Pff. No. Most faces have 5 moves of doom and if you're the top face no.
3. I'd rather have Cena telling the fans to shut up than I'm gonna kick your ass Rocky
4. A winning heel is better than a losing heel imo.

 

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Re: RE: Have they waited too long for a Cena heel turn?

Who would lead a new corporation? HHH? would that work considering a lot of fans know him for his time in DX as an anti authority figure. Cena would fit well in a corporate stable though but as you said no guarantee it will work.

H could work imo, just needs the correct build. We need a face who'll go against them though unless they NWO it and have a heel lead whilst they build up the top face

 

[Stopspot]

H could work imo, just needs the correct build. We need a face who'll go against them though unless they NWO it and have a heel lead whilst they build up the top face

A big corporate stable would be a nice way I think to build a new top face in my opinion.

 

[BaraaKhalaf92]

H turning heel will be a lot more interesting imo , he can lead a heel stable and maybe Cena can join him marking his heel turn.

Daniel Bryan stepping up against them as the big face would be epic..

 

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Could Bryan be the top face? Some will say his size holds him back too much others will say his ability will carry him, let's hear the opinions folks.

 

[CM Punk]

Could Bryan be the top face? Some will say his size holds him back too much others will say his ability will carry him, let's hear the opinions folks.

In my book, he can become the number 2 guy in the company.

Or at least top 5, but he already is.

1. John Cena
2. CM Punk
3. Daniel Bryan
4. Dolph Ziggler
5. Randy Orton

 

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Re: RE: Have they waited too long for a Cena heel turn?

In my book, he can become the number 2 guy in the company.

Or at least top 5, but he already is.

1. John Cena
2. CM Punk
3. Daniel Bryan
4. Dolph Ziggler
5. Randy Orton

Ryback is higher than Bry imo, he's main evented more shows this year and has been featured as a main aspect on the main show more.

 

[CM Punk]

Ryback is higher than Bry imo, he's main evented more shows this year and has been featured as a main aspect on the main show more.

I actually totally forgot about Ryback. I guess put Ryback in number 3 and give everyone a bump.

So Daniel is 4 and Dolph is 5.

But to me, his push seems forced upon. Still not really invested in him.

 

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Re: RE: Have they waited too long for a Cena heel turn?

I actually totally forgot about Ryback. I guess put Ryback in number 3 and give everyone a bump.

So Daniel is 4 and Dolph is 5.

But to me, his push seems forced upon. Still not really invested in him.

It was forced, they wanted him as their second face but not yet, what they were planning to do with him without Cena's injury I dread to think. I enjoy him and I don't at times.