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So with my promo up, if anybody has any feedback I'd welcome it :)

No pressure, only if you have time but I'd be taking things on board for next time

From my own POV I think my descriptive writing needs work and setting the scene a bit better. I'd like to hear what you guys thought of it, and what I could do to make my next promo better. Much appreciated :thumbs:

I'll try!


Blake Justice

I hope you guys enjoy. Been a while since I had a stab at this, added some visual things to make it more fun to read.

It's not super long, but the promo is following right after Gold Rush.

Without further ado:

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Road to Rush Hour - Promo

*With bloodshot eyes and muddied from head to toe, Blake stares deeply in to the camera placed before him. As if he was staring at your soul through the lens.*

"You can't bury what is already dead Circo. My soul died a long time ago. The lengths you go to try and get rid of me are feeble.
Push me down, and I'll get back up even stronger. Now you just pissed me off. I will always be here, always in your shadow. People say the boogeyman in the closet isn't real, you parents tell you "There's nothing there"

"They lied. The boogeyman does exist and you are staring right at it."


*Blake does a mocking wave as he smirks at the camera.*

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"I'm not satisfied until every waking moment you will be thinking of my name, seeing my face. Until life and your nightmares are indistinguible. The moment you're not sure if you're awake or asleep, you're mine. Remembering all the pain and bloodshed you have been put through. I feed off it. I enjoy it."


*Blake is grinning wildy, unable to even control his excitement at the thought.*

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"You watched me smash in Sanders' skull with no remorse. I fucking loved it. I keep replaying that moment in my head, wishing I could re-do it all again. As soon as I grabbed hold of that shovel I didn't hesistate, that's exacly what is going to happen in the parking lot at Rush Hour."

*Blake picks up the broken shovel from earlier off the ground and looks at it, appreciating his handy work*

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(Pretend the belt is a shovel here, I just wanted a picture of him grinning down at something for visual purposes)

"By the time I get finished with you Circo and your little Irish friend, that parking lot is going to be full of red. We're going to paint the town red. You'll feel like you're in hell. Your blood all over the place. I'm salivating at the thought."

*Blake licks his lips and edges in even closer to the camera, his eyes full of red and pure menace.*

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"The thing about the Boogey man is..It's not some creature or monster, it looks just like everybody else. Blending in with the crowd, watching you, observing you. Preparing to destroy you. You'd wish you never laid eyes on me, you wish you'd never uttered my name. I will not go away until I get what I want."

"Even then, I might just stick around because I enjoy this."

"See you in the parking lot, or maybe even before then. Who knows. Sleep with one eye open motherfucker."


*Blake slaps the camera aggressively on to the ground as the screen flickers and goes to black.*

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Some things I like: First, no matter how long a promo is, I want to feel some emotion in a character. What I got from Blake is intensity. I've seen sometimes in e-feds in the past where people go for full-blown raging edge and it comes off as a parody. This is not the case. I actually felt that emotion.

The use of gifs, while I don't think you always need them sprouted all over your promo, it is nice to include one or two as a visual aid.

Also thematically, you begin with the Boogeyman reference, then end it with one, it is a nice way to thematically make your promo come full circle. Then the end, sleep with one eye open. Nice line (potentially even didn't need the motherfucker as that line alone can leave a chill down someone's spine.)

General notes for improvement (may be longer but it is just that I am detailed with specifics):

First, while the grammar is overall pretty good, still a few misspelt words like *exactly, *hesitate, into and onto being one word. Also the line "People say the boogeyman in the closet isn't real, you parents tell you "There's nothing there" should be "People say that the boogeyman in the closet isn't real. Your parents tell you 'There's nothing there." "Your" is the correct word to use there. Just because it is the ownership of the person you are talking to. Saying "You parents" sounds like you're referring to the parents. "YOU PARENTS say that 'There is nothing there...'" Unless your opponent is a parent. Then boogeyman at the end is one word, not two.

Frankly, that stuff is probably minor and most people wouldn't think of it unless they were specifically looking for it.

Then you say you have problems with being descriptive. Honestly what I like to do first is imagine the scene where the promo is taking place. Like you didn't say anything related to that so I don't know where he is. Is he in a storage closet? A dark room, an alleyway, on the set of a porno, idk?

Think of the five senses too: sight, touch, smell, taste and hearing. Granted that usually if you are writing it as if we are seeing it on our TV, sight and hearing can be the most important, keeping those things in mind during a promo can help you visualize a scene and set up the tone like you would if you were writing a novel. Other than that, you can think of things in the scene like the attire someone is wearing, maybe describing how an object used looks. physical characteristics etc.

Let me attempt to write the first descriptions of your promo while keeping those in mind:

The crickets of the night sky are heard as we appear to be in a wooded area. But, the camera is focused on one man, the psychotic Blake Justice. Muddied from head to toe, we can barely make out what shirt he is wearing. His breathing is heavy, trying to contain the rage inside of him. With bloodshot eyes, veins almost pulsing out of his bald head, Blake stares deeply into the camera placed before him, trying to reach the viewer's soul.

There, I didn't really add too much, but I sort of set the scene out a touch more. Since I saw he was muddied, I put him outside to make sense, then a few extra descriptions to show his physical look (AKA PURE RAGE!!!).

Hopefully, I helped a bit!
 
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This is amazing Beavie, thank you :proud The advice on the descriptive writing is sooooo helpful. Especially remembering all the five senses, I've never done that and it's going to make such a massive difference next time

I had him backstage somewhere, but I definitely could have done a better job getting that across :cozy I like your idea of him being in the woods
 
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And since I gave some feedback, I might as well ask for some to give everyone a break from WWE Release Day 2021 part idk what we are on at this point... You can either look at the promo Jonny and I did for our Trios match or this intro piece I did:

My Purpose
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We turn to a dim room lit with candles in a rather luxurious house. The silhouette of two women are in the background and they are playing music together. One we can see seated on a piano, while the other, wearing a long poofy dress, plays the violin. A cat lies down on the window ledge as the night sky. In the corner, a rather imposing man in a full suit sits in a chair, holding a glass of rum in his hand. A toddler is at his feet, lightly tapping a block. We get a closer glance at the woman on the piano and she has tattoos all over her body, with a slender frame. Her dark hair glides down to her shoulders as she plays the music. The woman in the violin, has her eyes closed, tiara on her head as if she was royalty. Long satin gloves cover her hands, exposing some of a tattoo on her upper arm as she gently plays her instrument. Her hair, matching the one of the pianist with a pitch black. Eventually, the two finish their song and the man in the chair applauds. The girl in the tiara speaks.

“Let me tell you a story. A story of a girl who seemingly had it all. She travelled the world while having family and friends. She became popular. But that girl had a dark past. One which she masked. Then she seemingly threw it all away and threw herself into a new life.”

The woman behind her gets up from her piano and the man gets up from his seat, picking up the child. The two stand beside her and they are Slate and Eden Bassignani, along with their daughter, Keres. The girl in the tiara grins as Eden runs her hand through her hair as she speaks.

“My name is Princess Nova Bassignani, and this is my story.” She giggles before speaking.

Long ago, I was a young girl with a beam of hope. I did gymnastics, had a mother, father, and my life sorted. I was loved, motivated…” Nova chuckles, “But then I lost it all. My mother, gone, my father, distant and weak, and I needed to poison myself to cope. For years, I was told the way to solve it was to throw myself into everything. Modelling, wrestling, singing, loud rock music, dying my hair any colour I wished.” She giggles, “I was quite a different person. But yet, there was always something missing. That something caused a weakness. For a while, I thought I just had to connect to my family again. So I found a cousin I was once distanced with… Reconnected with father…”

Nova has a disgusted look on her face. “No matter how much it pained me. But it was never enough. You see, no matter how much I tried to help, give love, it was never returned. My love was never rewarded or returned. My cousin could not hide his own feelings of failure and ran to people he actually cared about when he had an opportunity to change. My father was a shell of a man. I tried other friends, but they never really cared. They were second-hand friends; there for pity. I tried to love, but the flame died out. My weakness was avoidance. My weakness left me a shell and I was in denial. But where some see weakness.” Nova looks towards Eden and smiles.

“She sees potential. People warned me of her. They told me she was evil, that she was the devil. But she is just misunderstood.” Nova turns to Slate. “He is misunderstood. The Bassignanis are different, but that doesn’t mean they’re bad. Eventually, I realized what could be done. So I gave myself to the Bassignani family and moved into the Residence and they gave me what was missing.” Nova smiles. “Family. Unconditional love. People who care about me and appreciate my love in return. I met a caring man who is able to watch over his family like the Torn Warrior he is. I met one of the most powerful and kind women imaginable who is able to weave her own reality at her fingertips.” Hearing the compliments, Slate Bass gives a small smirk while Eden grins, lightly touching Nova’s cheek.

“As a thank you, I became a blank canvas to Eden. I let her rebuild me into something stronger. I became her Torn Angel, a caring figure to her family. She shaped my new reality and now I can embrace it and live as my idealized self, and look at what I have gained. I have a protector in Slate Bass. I have someone who can nurture me in Eden.” Nova looks towards Keres and lightly pokes her on the nose, causing the toddler to giggle. “-And I have the cutest little sister imaginable who I’d do anything for!”

Nova grins and looks forward. “This is my family now. This is my purpose. And to those who worry and think I have been ‘brainwashed,’ or that I’m under some magical spell.” Princess Nova pauses before giggling and saying softly and coldly, “Does it really matter? I’m happy now. By becoming Torn I am finally complete, and it was all…”

Princess Nova blows a kiss, “...Sealed with a kiss.” She lets out a cold laugh as a maid walks in on-screen. She has a blank mask on, and on her tray, a colourful cocktail. Layered with bold colours of red. Yellow, and blue, it looks bright and cheerful like a rainbow after a brutal storm. Garnishing it, a lemon wedge, looking like a sun. Nova takes the drink off the tray as the maid bows to her and walks off.

Nova sips the drink, enjoying the fruity taste before putting her gloved finger on her chin. “But you have to think, what next?” She lightly tilts her head. “I embraced my fate, but it does not mean I should sit around. Complacency is an issue. You sit, decay, become whittled, vulnerable, and rather than progress, you regress. My Residence gave me a gift, and I return my love and loyalty, but would it be selfish to not share that gift with the world?”

Glancing towards Eden, Nova smiles as her mentor slyly grins back. “So, we have come up with a plan. We seek wider horizons and rather than be in a position of power, why not have it be the Bassignanis against the world? Discover new challenges to sharpen us, refine us like the diamonds we have become.”

The expression of Nova becomes devious as she thinks for a second, biting her lip before snickering. “And honestly, I’ve become quite restless in this time and I want some new people to play. Isn’t that how you make friends, after all? Haha... I want more ways to help my family. I want the world to realize that becoming TORN isn’t a bad thing. It’s a blessing in disguise.”

Looking into the camera, Princess Nova tilts her head. “AMA wrestling, soon you will believe…”

The Torn Angel giggles before Eden gestures for them to leave. Nova sips on her drink and follows both her mentors off as the scene fades.

OOC: Credit to @Project Jonny for "lending" me his characters. Honestly 99% of the time we approve the use of each other's characters in the background for them. I apologize for any rust.
 
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ill happily rate stuff tomorrow, id love some feedback on the the new shinzo promo ofc as well, tho it was a bit more of a traditional one
 

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I loved that promo, love how she reacted to the Bunkhouse match too :lol I like her feistiness. Dig the whole in to gaming thing.

Cali kinda gives me Dva vibes from Overwatch, I really do love it
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Just responding here to not bog down the match thread with OOC comments, but thanks! Hopefully that means I hit a lot of the character points I wanted to show off. She's feisty, can be a bit of a dweeb (ironically she was more of one before), and frankly having such a weird stipulation and facing 6 people in a debut isn't ideal, but I made her reaction match my own (I.E: WHAT IS THIS, 1985?!). Plus she is trained in the ancient art of trash talk from the Call of Duty lobbies where she learned techniques such as "Your mom," and "Hey, you just got your ass kicked by a girl."

If you all want to give thoughts on it, the promo is here:

 

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Ah yeah, I probably should have posted my thoughts in this thread actually. Good shout.

I love that about her lol, it's why I said she reminds me of Dva a tad. When you're playing Overwatch she'll use voice lines like she's playing a video game. That's a really great wrestling persona to bring the art of lobby trash talking to life.
 
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Ah yeah, I probably should have posted my thoughts in this thread actually. Good shout.

I love that about her lol, it's why I said she reminds me of Dva a tad. When you're playing Overwatch she'll use voice lines like she's playing a video game. That's a really great wrestling persona to bring the art of lobby trash talking to life.

To be fair, Cali mained Sombra when she played Overwatch. Although with the whole Blizzard stuff she is boycotting their games until they improve their situation.
 

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Vlog 46: Backstage at AMA Rush Hour with a LEGEND!

Daniel Christian’s usual vlog intro plays before transitioning to Christian filming on his phone at what looks to be an airport.

Daniel Christian: “Hey guys, thanks for tuning in once again to a VERY special episode. As you can see, I’m not in my apartment this week, and here pretty soon I’ll be in San Francisco because it’s time for Daniel Christian to show the entire world who he is. But real talk, I’m running super late for this flight so if I make it in time, I’ll talk to you guys from the arena.

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The video comes back to Christian, now dressed in his ring gear and at the arena. He’s with a rugged wrestler that looks to be well into his 40s and wears scars from previous battles all across his body.


Daniel Christian: “Hey guys welcome back. I only have a couple of minutes here because my match is coming up here pretty soon since I didn’t exactly get booked in the main event on my first night. But don’t worry! I’ll have plenty of time after I make short work of this Shakespeare wannabe coming up to show you all the happenings backstage at AMA. But first I wanted you guys to meet my new friend, the one, the only, the man, the man, the myth, the legend: JOHNNY LIGHTUBES!”
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Christian sticks the camera in Johnny’s visibly annoyed face.

Johnny Lightubes: “What is this shit, kid?’

Daniel Christian: “It’s my vlog, man, I was just telling you about it. You know, the thing I do on YouTube? I’ve got almost 15k subscribers.”

Johnny Lightubes: “Talk to me when you’ve got 15,000 thumbtacks stuck to your back, I’m not wasting my time with this.”

Johnny gets up and leaves, leaving Christian sitting alone.

Daniel Christian: “Oooooohkay, well that wasn’t exactly what I was expecting but trust me he’s a great guy I swear. Go look up some of his matches from back in the day they were WILD! Anyway, my match is soon so I’ve got to go, see you guys after.”

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The next few minutes of the video are showing Daniel Christian vs Maxwell Marquee from Rush Hour, filmed from high above the arena. We see both men making their entrance before Christian had the shocking upset in just a few minutes for his big AMA debut.

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Backstage once again, Daniel Christian has a huge smile on his face stretching ear to ear.

Daniel Christian: “Did you guys see that!? That was insane, it’s gotta be the shortest match in AMA history. I told you guys I’d show the world who I was tonight! Johnny my man, did you see that match?”

Christian once again points his camera towards Johnny Lightubes.

Johnny Lightubes: “Kid if you put this camera in my face one more time, I’ll make sure you won’t even get a second match.”

Christian quickly moves on through the backstage area.

Daniel Christian: “Such a warm person that Johnny Lightubes. I think he liked the match though. But now it’s time for me to celebrate. I’ll wrap this vlog up once I’m home and catch you guys up on everything.”

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The video then transitions to the all-familiar bedroom/studio in Daniel Christian’s apartment where he has filmed the bulk of his vlogs as they continue to grow in viewership. Christian is seated in his usual seat in front of the camera, still with a huge smile across his face.

Daniel Christian: “Welcome back as I wrap up this episode. It’s now been a couple of days since I made my debut at Rush Hour, and the reaction from you guys has been amazing. I already know this is going to end up being my most view episode, I’ve gained 5,000 more subscribers since the show aired! So welcome to all the new viewers, now you know what all my long-time fans already knew, I’m here and I’m the real deal. And you won’t have to wait much longer because I’ve already been asked to come back. That’s right, at the next AMA show Manifest Destiny, these guys have booked me in a CAGE! If you thought watching me beat up on drama boy was fun, you haven’t seen anything yet, this will be my show to steal. I just feel sorry for those other poor schmucks locked in that cage with me. But for now, you guys know the drill. Like, subscribe, buy my merch, all that jazz. None of this would be possible without your love and support, and the future is bright!"

The ending credits with special thank yous to Daniel Christian’s Patreon subscribers play before the video ends, concluding this episode.

Collab between him and Cali's twitch when?

Well maybe if there is no hard feelings are a bunch of people are yeeted out of a cage ;P
 
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I, and I am sure @Princess Rosé, would love feedback on our recent promo
Loved it

How about mine?
 

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Loved it

How about mine?

Well, let me tackle it properly...

A man is pacing back and forth in a room, this room had photographs, documents and post stick notes plastered all over the walls with strings of yarn criss crossing everywhere between them.

"What does it all mean?"

One of the documents had ABL written on it

"Why picture frames? Why the dolls? What is the connection?" the man would ask himself

There was a picture of Princess Nova about half way down a pyramid of mugshots, the picture at the top was of a silhouetted figure

"They've got something to do with it, follow the money Burgerman. They need to investigated properly, old school style"

One of the lengths of yarn was pinned into a piece of paper with the word Bassinagi written on it circled in big red marker

"We find out what they know" he says to himself as Burgerman crosses a line through the name

I think the best way for me to go through this is to go through the criteria that the judges normally go through.

These are:


A. Spelling/Punctuation/Grammar (10pts)
- Self explanatory. We aren't spelling purists, but when these things are absent, you will be losing points.

B. Continuity (10pts)
- Does the RP in question make sense when previous RPs are taken into account?
- Does it keep with the story that has been going on?

C. Match Relevance (10pts)
- Does the RP in question spend time focusing on the match at hand?
- How much time does it spend?
- Is it enough?

D. Details (10pts)
- Were the details in the RP in question correct?
- How well did it set the scene? The clearer the picture, the better you'll score.

E. Dialogue (10pts)
- How good was the dialogue in the RP in question?
- Did it help or hurt the scene?
- Was it used to promote the match?

F. Overall Quality (10pts)
- The general impression the judges got from the RP. Originality is a huge component.
- Out of the box thinking will get you a higher mark.

G. Conviction (10pts)
- How much time and effort went into the RP in question?
- Was it posted at the last minute?
- How many RPs were submitted?


First, when it comes to spelling/grammar.

I'd probably give it a middling rank. Like 5 or 6 out of ten. It is a short promo, so there is less room for error but there are a couple issues. From saying "criss crossing" rather than "crisscrossing," and some choppy speech "We find out what they know" instead of "We'll/We will find out what they know. But, and this is something I am not sure the judges will notice but I did, is a switch from present-tense to past-tense and then back to present tense at the end. in your details. The first line was written as we are seeing it as it is happening, but then you use words like "had" and "was." This makes a promo, no matter how short or long, confusing.

So let's say 6/10

Next: Continuity:

What continuity? The promo you cut was Burgerman being confused with the dolls and the picture frame. Maybe some of the meaning behind it can be confusing in a kayfabe sense, but it is as if he has seen them for the first time. It is not, or rather probably shouldn't be.

In the thread for promos the first match we had together (the one I mentioned where you lost), we had a promo where, seeing that two out of the three opponents we had involved food (and a cowboy because why not) we had a "Family dinner"where we discussed the match. Some "guests" were puppets which all looked like our opponents. Why? Isn't super important. As for the picture frame, if you read the show, after the match while you were on the canvas knocked out, we took a "family picture" with you. The picture hanging above, was that scene as we wrote during the opening paragraph. Think of it like a post-match gimmick like how Jake Roberts sometimes put his pet snake on his opponents.

"Above, framed, is the post-match scene from their debut in AMA at Rush Hour, holding a broken Burgerman with a picture frame around him."

So it is either perfect continuity if Burgerman is somehow has literally no idea of those things and what they mean, or very little because he is acting like he never seen it before.

Oh, and what is up with the mugshots? I swear we have not done any crime shit XD.

So I'll put 3/10 as a placeholder for now.

Match Relevence:

This is once again pretty low. You discuss one team out of five you may be facing. Above mentions the teams booked in the match, and if you read the card, you can see there is another match where the winning team qualifies for the tag team turmoil. I know your character has a mild amount of history with us considering we beat you guys, but you still need to address the upcoming match and maybe at least mention the other opponents.

- Does the RP in question spend time focusing on the match at hand?

No.

- How much time does it spend?

Very little.

- Is it enough?

Probably not, and it doesn't have to be a promo as long as what Jonny and I did. Everyone is different but it just needs to build to the match and feel complete. This didn't.

2/10.

Details

Now this I'll give middle the road as well. You described the scene of him standing in a room going full detective and what was on the board. This isn't bad. But there is that issue of flopping between past and present tense, and it can be more. I'll quote what I said to Fourth for one of his promos last show:


Then you say you have problems with being descriptive. Honestly what I like to do first is imagine the scene where the promo is taking place. Like you didn't say anything related to that so I don't know where he is. Is he in a storage closet? A dark room, an alleyway, on the set of a porno, idk?

Think of the five senses too: sight, touch, smell, taste and hearing. Granted that usually if you are writing it as if we are seeing it on our TV, sight and hearing can be the most important, keeping those things in mind during a promo can help you visualize a scene and set up the tone like you would if you were writing a novel. Other than that, you can think of things in the scene like the attire someone is wearing, maybe describing how an object used looks. physical characteristics etc.

Let me attempt to write the first descriptions of your promo while keeping those in mind:

The crickets of the night sky are heard as we appear to be in a wooded area. But, the camera is focused on one man, the psychotic Blake Justice. Muddied from head to toe, we can barely make out what shirt he is wearing. His breathing is heavy, trying to contain the rage inside of him. With bloodshot eyes, veins almost pulsing out of his bald head, Blake stares deeply into the camera placed before him, trying to reach the viewer's soul.

There, I didn't really add too much, but I sort of set the scene out a touch more. Since I saw he was muddied, I put him outside to make sense, then a few extra descriptions to show his physical look (AKA PURE RAGE!!!).

Hopefully, I helped a bit!

You can do things like describe how he is pacing, his tone of voice to get emotion, maybe the outfit he is wearing, any other details of the room, etc. You don't need a novel but just that extra seasoning can create a flavour (see what I did there) to your promo and built a scene and set a tone.

I'll be nice and give a 6/10

Dialogue

This is hard to judge because it is very little but I'll go back to the three questions asked in the criteria:

How good was the dialogue in the RP in question? Did it help or hurt the scene? Was it used to promote the match? I already stated before that the promo barely mentioned the match, and honestly there is no beginning, middle, or end, it was just him going "WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?" Now the thing is, you have the potential to have a fun character with fun dialogue. Think the charm of The Hurricane but with Hamburger puns! Like imagine if he is pacing, looking at a board filled with his opponents, and he is like...

"Burger-log, January 2022, take one. The Bugerman is here in the Burgerlair researching for his match. However, Burgerman is perplexed by his upcoming opponents. While I get to fight for justice alongside my food loving friend, the competition more than cuts the mustard. If I don't wrap my head around it, the Burgerman will find himself grilled again!" Then you can do some brief talk about each team and their crimes against Burgers or whatever before concluding that you will try your best to overcome the competition and let justice prevail, whatever.

There is a lot of potential with the character but the dialogue doesn't do anything for it. I mean when I say you can have some fun promos if you actually lean into the wackiness and make him, you know... have character, personality, take a look at your opponents and have that guide your dialogue as you build the match, any BEEF you have with people and just have fun.

2/10.

Overall Quality (10pts)

I'll take the average rounded down which is about 4.5... so 4/10.

Then they usually have bonus points for conviction which includes things like being punctual in posting a promo, and putting time and effort, but I won't touch that.


So overall, buddy, it is pretty rough.

But I'll say something, maybe someone could have done more to explain how this works to you before you signed up. Also they should have probably waited for you to finish your sign up and notify you of your previous match earlier. Not saying you would have won that because the Raging Redneck also didn't cut a promo which extremely hurt your chances and Jonny and I have a fair bot of e-fed experience, but it did you no favours.

If there is a silver lining to this is that, not even joking, the idea of a Hamburger themed superhero is silly but can be a fun character where if you learn a lot of these things and lean into the potential of the character, then we can have an entertaining character on the roster, win, lose, or draw.
 
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