General Chit-Chat Thread - No Spoilers

[Santa Hoss]

As for IWA MS, yeah. The Hero matches. Also the match he had with Eddie and Rey.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

A lot of people like to group 2000 and 2001 into the Attitude Era but considerin' the match quality... I kind of consider that it a separate era

 

[Santa Hoss]

I get that. My idea of the Attitude Era would be between WrestleMania 14 and 17. There was definitely some AE stuff going on before and after that but that's just what I consider the peak period.

 

[Santa Hoss]

You could definitely say the AE started after Survivor Series 1997 too.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

That would of negate the early DX and Hart Foundation stuff but it was still comin' into it's own then

 

[Kiffy Lube]

Then you clarify it a bit better lmao

 

[Kiffy Lube]

I do feel when folks like Jericho, Radicalz and Angle emerged that it felt like a different product right away

 

[Santa Hoss]

True, true.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

This Prince episode of New Girl

 

[Tremendez]

The official start to the Attitude Era has a defined spot for canon and it's a December episode of Raw. Vince starts the program and tells the audience Raw would be getting more attitude. For my personal canon, though, I think it starts with the debut of Raw Is War in March with the Bret Hart shoot. It's one of the first times Vince is revealed as the owner and not just a commentator.

 

[Tremendez]

December 1997*

 

[Tremendez]

 

[Tremendez]

The end is a bit more of a stretch as they don't ever really say it's over, but Ruthless Aggression Era's promo that kicks it off is technically June 2002 and they were technically using the WWF Attitude Era shirts and slogan until May 2002 when they changed to WWE. So if Attitude Era slogan stopped in May and Ruthless Aggression started in June, I think 2002 is the correct answer.

 

[Tremendez]

The Rock and Stone Cold also both basically left WWF over that Summer and to me that is definitely when it was over.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

Groupin' 97-99 in with 2000-2001 considerin' the shift to match quality durin' that time period, just makes it feel like two different products. I don't even know what I'd call it but Vince Russo sure wasn't there