Do you support Punk for leaving, or is he a baby?

[Nero_x3]

Did you read anything throughout this whole thread? I've explained enough.

To summarize quickly for you, Punk's "bitching" isn't because "He's a damn crybaby who wants to be
remembered for everything he does instead of actually just wrestle wherever he is put and not bitch
incessantly about it." It's because he wants younger talent, experienced talent (DB), himself, etc. to be pushed more towards the top. Also, you said he just wants to be remembered for everything he does...ummm, who wouldn't want to be remembered? lol.

Continuing, Punk does and has wrestled wherever they put him. Is he upset when he feels like DB, himself, Tyson Kidd, and others are belittled? Yes he does. This doesn't make him a baby, rather he's standing up for himself and others in the back. More often than not, Punk is 100% right with what he says: look at the RR for an example. Punk will voice his concerns when it's needed and feels that WWE holds too many superstars back, which that is clearly true. If you take that as "He's a damn crybaby who wants to be remembered for everything he does instead of actually just wrestle wherever he is put and not bitch incessantly about it," then that's your opinion; I do, however, fell that you're wrong.

It doesn't matter really. He only wants himself and the younger superstars to get pushed, cause he's all about his damnself. He's already been rumored to have left because he wanted to main event Wrestlemania 30. He tries way too damn hard to get himself in the spotlight, and although I do agree that younger talent deserves to be pushed, Punk really just wants all the damn spotlight he can get so he can be number 1.

 

[Danielson]

This is a complete assumption, but my gut tells me that it wouldn't matter who main events. If it isn't punk, he's going to complain. That is why I think he is being a baby. I don't think it matters if Batista was in the mainevent at mania, the rock, the miz, John Cena, Daniel Bryan. If it's not him, he's going to bitch. I support him to leave if he is unhappy, but I don't want to hear that it's about anyone other than himself. It's all about him, and he isn't going to change anything other than a inconvenience for a few hours while the writers re-write a script.

Truthfully, I don't know, but I choose to believe what I do about Punk. Some guys think he is extremely brave, and that's cool too. I just look at it differently.

 

[Beefy]

I don't count it as brave at all. All I see is a guy unhappy at work leaves. Just because he is in the public eye doesn't change this.

 

[Wacokid27]

This is a complete assumption, but my gut tells me that it wouldn't matter who main events. If it isn't punk, he's going to complain. That is why I think he is being a baby. I don't think it matters if Batista was in the mainevent at mania, the rock, the miz, John Cena, Daniel Bryan. If it's not him, he's going to bitch. I support him to leave if he is unhappy, but I don't want to hear that it's about anyone other than himself. It's all about him, and he isn't going to change anything other than a inconvenience for a few hours while the writers re-write a script.

Truthfully, I don't know, but I choose to believe what I do about Punk. Some guys think he is extremely brave, and that's cool too. I just look at it differently.

There's a huge amount of a deeper truth here. And that is summed up in your first five words. In fact, that's all this discussion is from any of us: an assumption, or rather a series of assumptions.

We assume he's actually gone and this isn't some kind of extended, intricate work (it necessarily would have to be more intricate the longer it goes). We assume that Punk is either thinking only of himself or thinking about the rest of the roster. We assume that it's either about injuries or it's not about injuries (not to mention how serious those assumed injuries are). We assume these things because this is a situation in which there is no solid information. Everything we have comes from dirt sheets, "insider backstage" reports, and assumptions that get extrapolated into such a level of acceptance that they get treated as fact. This is the second time in a month I've seen the phenomenon (I'm also a Texas Longhorn and just went through the same type of swirling rumor-mill with the hiring of a new head football coach....if anything the folks here are far more civil than the ones at the Texas board I follow).

At the end of the day, the facts we have are these:

1) CM Punk was eliminated from the Royal Rumble by Kane, leaving three guys (Batista, Reigns, and Sheamus). He was eliminated by a wrestler who he had previously eliminated.
2) CM Punk has not appeared on, nor been mentioned on, WWE TV since.
3) There are rumors about the reasons why.

That's what we've got.

Not bitching about anybody's bitching (I'm really not; I've done plenty of bitching about it myself). Just trying to offer a little perspective on a rainy Tuesday morning.

wk

 

[edge4ever]

This is a complete assumption, but my gut tells me that it wouldn't matter who main events. If it isn't punk, he's going to complain. That is why I think he is being a baby. I don't think it matters if Batista was in the mainevent at mania, the rock, the miz, John Cena, Daniel Bryan. If it's not him, he's going to bitch. I support him to leave if he is unhappy, but I don't want to hear that it's about anyone other than himself. It's all about him, and he isn't going to change anything other than a inconvenience for a few hours while the writers re-write a script.

Truthfully, I don't know, but I choose to believe what I do about Punk. Some guys think he is extremely brave, and that's cool too. I just look at it differently.

With all due respect, everything you just said is speculation as well. And I respect your opinion, I just disagree and feel that Punk stands up for more than just himself.

 

[edge4ever]

It doesn't matter really. He only wants himself and the younger superstars to get pushed, cause he's all about his damnself. He's already been rumored to have left because he wanted to main event Wrestlemania 30. He tries way too damn hard to get himself in the spotlight, and although I do agree that younger talent deserves to be pushed, Punk really just wants all the damn spotlight he can get so he can be number 1.

You just said, "It doesn't matter really. He only wants himself and the younger superstars to get pushed, cause he's all about his damnself"....I think you proved my point by stating that....he's not just about himself. You contradicted yourself right from the start....
Replying to the rest of your post, Punk does want to be number 1...who wouldn't? But he also said that this should be Bryan's year and he wants others in main events, not boring repeats and friends of Triple H: Batista and Orton.
Punk may "bitch" a lot but it's not just for himself.

 

[Nero_x3]

You just said, "It doesn't matter really. He only wants himself and the younger superstars to get pushed, cause he's all about his damnself"....I think you proved my point by stating that....he's not just about himself. You contradicted yourself right from the start....
Replying to the rest of your post, Punk does want to be number 1...who wouldn't? But he also said that this should be Bryan's year and he wants others in main events, not boring repeats and friends of Triple H: Batista and Orton.
Punk may "bitch" a lot but it's not just for himself.

He is about his damn self. He's bitching about not being in the main event scene, allowing his ego to not work with the company plans. He works for the company, the company does not work for him.

 

[edge4ever]

He is about his damn self. He's bitching about not being in the main event scene, allowing his ego to not work with the company plans. He works for the company, the company does not work for him.

Yes, but he's also "bitching" about DB, Tyson, other superstars, and some crappy storylines in the WWE--John Cena and Orton again, for example. It's not just about him at all. Sure, he bitches about his stories and he wants to be in the main event, who wouldn't? He's also simply "bitching" about Batista coming back and literally taking all the spotlight from everyone when he can barely deliver a powerbomb anymore. I know he works for the company...I work for my company, too. Does this mean they can constantly treat me however they want? When I know I'm worth more? Yes, they can do this. However, it doesn't mean I have stick around and deal with it. I can get up and walk and bring my talent elsewhere or retire if I have the money. lol, does this mean I'm a bitch????

 

[Nero_x3]

Yes, but he's also "bitching" about DB, Tyson, other superstars, and some crappy storylines in the WWE--John Cena and Orton again, for example. It's not just about him at all. Sure, he bitches about his stories and he wants to be in the main event, who wouldn't? He's also simply "bitching" about Batista coming back and literally taking all the spotlight from everyone when he can barely deliver a powerbomb anymore. I know he works for the company...I work for my company, too. Does this mean they can constantly treat me however they want? When I know I'm worth more? Yes, they can do this. However, it doesn't mean I have stick around and deal with it. I can get up and walk and bring my talent elsewhere or retire if I have the money. lol, does this mean I'm a bitch????

Congrats. You would be leaving the company because you're unhappy with it meaning that you were crying about the whole damn situation. And although you have the right to feel that way, you don't have the right to try to change it, because you don't have that kind of power.

 

[Farooq]

At the end of the day, people do what they want for themselves. Every act we do, we always calculate how it will affect us in life, and try to see how it will happen in the future. Do I think Punk left for himself? Yes, but that isn't a bad reason. He's thinking of himself, and how selfish as it may sound, as long as it makes him happy, then he shouldn't care what other people think. That's my last opinion of it.

 

[edge4ever]

Congrats. You would be leaving the company because you're unhappy with it meaning that you were crying about the whole damn situation. And although you have the right to feel that way, you don't have the right to try to change it, because you don't have that kind of power.

I see...so basically you're saying that if something is wrong...and unjust...just accept it because odds are you can't change anything? You're very noble patriot of this generation.
My analogy doesn't make me cry baby . . . it makes me stand up for what I believe in and know my self worth...nothing can get better unless its challenged dude

 

[edge4ever]

At the end of the day, people do what they want for themselves. Every act we do, we always calculate how it will affect us in life, and try to see how it will happen in the future. Do I think Punk left for himself? Yes, but that isn't a bad reason. He's thinking of himself, and how selfish as it may sound, as long as it makes him happy, then he shouldn't care what other people think. That's my last opinion of it.

Even if in that moment he left because of himself ....punk has always stood up for other talent and complained on their behalf. He also argues with the creative team. He hit a boiling point and regardless if he hit that point because of his feud with Triple H or not is irrelevant because he's been voicing his concerns for himself and others for years.

 

[Farooq]

Not my problem.

 

[Nero_x3]

I see...so basically you're saying that if something is wrong...and unjust...just accept it because odds are you can't change anything? You're very noble patriot of this generation.
My analogy doesn't make me cry baby . . . it makes me stand up for what I believe in and know my self worth...nothing can get better unless its challenged dude

Punk can't change the plans that WWE will have at Wrestlemania. Even if he was a top star it doesn't matter what he thinks at the end of the day. Honestly he should just go home and wallow in his money or something because it's clear that he's so damn full of himself.

 

[edge4ever]

Punk can't change the plans that WWE will have at Wrestlemania. Even if he was a top star it doesn't matter what he thinks at the end of the day. Honestly he should just go home and wallow in his money or something because it's clear that he's so damn full of himself.

Once again, you missed my point. I never said Punk could change it. He may not. Odds are he won't. But, at least he's noble enough to stand up for himself and others and not hide like apparently you would.
He's also full of DB by the way. And others.