Yes, Canada is so superior what with their 35 million citizens and no crime or social issues. It's just a maple syrup Utopia up there. Finger wag us barbarians with guns some more. We've heard it all before and we just roll our eyes at the irrelevant, collective social views of "America's Hat" lol
As for the "Army" that didn't stop Nidal Hassan. Guess what? Their weapons were locked up in arms rooms (aka huge vaults that two or three people in every line unit have access to). Nidal Hassan didn't go out to the firing range, he went to an area on post that was completely gun free: a Soldier Readiness Center with civilian technicians.
My point was that Canada is another country that has a lot of guns yet don't have anywhere near as many issues with guns compared to America. This whole thread is about preventing massacres and Canada have shown that their method works and Australia has shown that their method works. America do need a change it just depends to what extent.
You must not have looked very hard because the Eaton Center mall in downtown Toronto had a shooting this summer. :fp: Only 1 death, but he shot several people. I really don't get the relevance of how many people he killed either. So Canadians are bad shots in comparison... OK? The intent is still there. The Columbine killers were even worse tbh. They fired over 600 rounds and only killed a little over a dozen people. They must have sucked at Doom.
And if Australian people have such a "different attitude" as you said, explain why Australia handed down gun bans of their own. Also explain to me why gun crime soared +40% after the ban and crimes against senior citizens went through the roof over 100%.
A massacre is clearly defined as four or more people killed. That is what I am talking about and posting my ideas on how it can be reduced based on successful methods used in other countries around the world.
Australia handed down gun bans on their own because we, in general as a society, don't like guns. Even before the gun ban the ownership of guns in Australia is much much less not only of the US but of most developed countries. We have never been a society that has many guns around but even after a few incidents we decided as a country that we want to stop the mindless killings and we inacted a plan that has worked tremendously well. Australians attitude to guns is blatantly obvious to see.
The latest stats I can find are 2011 and comparing 2011 statistics to 1996 statistics, 1996 is the year when the Australian Bureau of Statistics started tracking all this data. Homicides and robbery have decreased and with robbery 61% is unarmed whilst assualt and sexual assualt have increased. Property crime has been reduced by a huge margin. Breaking and Entering, which someone claimed had increased by a huge amount since Australians can't shoot intruders anymore, has actually been reduced by half since 1996. Vehicle theft has decreased by close to 60%. The use of firearms in crimes has reduced over the past 15 years as well. Note that I am using the total figures without taking into account the increase in population, approximately 5 million, in the past 15 years and also the increase in crimes actually reported over the past 15 years. I can't find stats to compare on crime rates against senior citizens.
I used the Australian Institute of Criminology for the reports which in turns gets their data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics.
In the end if I was given the option of being shot and killed or assualted I would definitely pick option B.
