Best WrestleMania Final Four: WrestleMania XIX vs WrestleMania XXX

[Smart Marx]

It's not that fucking bad, Smark. That is quite the exaggeration.

It's terrible. Don't 19 stan for it. It's bad. At least Chris admits it's trash.

 

[Smart Marx]

I made my post right after Grim mentioned it, didn't see his until mine was posted so we kinda said it at the same time. I brought up Chyna/Ivory first bc it's the worst match on X-Seven but the 6-man is bad too. Also if we want to get to the next level matches I'd say the IC, European and Hardcore title matches are all worse than the midcard of XIX, though I don't hate any of them by any means. X-Seven wins with main matches but the mid-card and lower matches on XIX are probably better. Like I said they're super close to me, I think they were numbers 3 and 4 on my list

Now we might have to fight!

While we can agree to disagree about the 6-man, the X-Seven mid-card is vastly better. Like by a lot.

Jericho and Regal, Eddie and Test and that Hardocre match were great. Probably one of the best hardcore matches WWE ever put on.


OK, let's save this for the finals. It was just good to troll Grim a little since he stans for 19 so hard and honestly I do like 19 second best.

 

[Chris]

Dude called them GREAT

And he's the one calling people stans

 

[Smart Marx]

Dude called them GREAT

And he's the one calling people stans

They are. There's a reason most people call it the best Mania and/or best show of all time. This isn't a minority opinion.

I admit the 6-man is weak and so is the squash. He's defending the handicap match. There's a difference.

 

[Chris]

They are. There's a reason most people call it the best Mania and/or best show of all time. This isn't a minority opinion.

I admit the 6-man is weak and so is the squash. He's defending the handicap match. There's a difference.

But he never said it was GREAT he just said it was mediocre which I'd argue is just as bad as you calling those decent midcard matches that would have been alright on TV GREAT

 

[Smart Marx]

But he never said it was GREAT he just said it was mediocre which I'd argue is just as bad as you calling those decent midcard matches that would have been alright on TV GREAT

I didn't say the 6-man was either. Nor the squash match. I'm not talking about him here.

I'm talking about you shitting on legit good matches.

 

[Chris]

I didn't say the 6-man was either. Nor the squash match. I'm not talking about him here.

I'm talking about you shitting on legit good matches.

Did you miss the part where I said I liked them and I just thought the 19 mid card matches were better? Damn I didn't know I was shitting on them

 

[Smart Marx]

But he never said it was GREAT he just said it was mediocre which I'd argue is just as bad as you calling those decent midcard matches that would have been alright on TV GREAT

Are you really comparing Jericho and Regal to a Big Show / A-Train handicap match?

 

[Chris]

Are you really comparing Jericho and Regal to a Big Show / A-Train handicap match?

NO HOLY SHIT handicap match gets compared to the 6-man, I'm comparing the cruiswerweight or the tag titles or some shit to Jericho/Regal which only got 7 minutes which was a fuckin' travesty in itself

 

[Smart Marx]

Did you miss the part where I said I liked them and I just thought the 19 mid card matches were better? Damn I didn't know I was shitting on them

My first post was in gest, but you kind of are shitting on them if you are calling me a stan for saying they're great. Which is just a word I use. I'm not saying they're 5-stars or anything. I just use great and good interchangeably. But, you seemed to think that was funny so...

 

[Smart Marx]

NO HOLY SHIT handicap match gets compared to the 6-man, I'm comparing the cruiswerweight or the tag titles or some shit to Jericho/Regal which only got 7 minutes which was a fuckin' travesty in itself

You compared them when you compared me to Grim for defending that match.

I never defended the 6-man as great. Just funner than the handicap match.

 

[Chris]

You compared them when you compared me to Grim for defending that match.

I never defended the 6-man as great. Just funner than the handicap match.

Nah I was saying him calling a trash match mediocre is as bad as you calling a decent match great.

So my opinions would be the X-seven matches: Decent and the handicap match: trash but better than the 6-man

I was comparing your guys' opinions on them not the matches themselves.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

 

[Smart Marx]

Nah I was saying him calling a trash match mediocre is as bad as you calling a decent match great.

So my opinions would be the X-seven matches: Decent and the handicap match: trash but better than the 6-man

I was comparing your guys' opinions on them not the matches themselves.

But, there's no comparison there. None whatsoever. We can disagree over if the matches were decent or great. Which by the way means nothing to me. I just use that word interchangeably with good. I just don't get why you'd bring them up at all if you liked them. But, that's wholesale different than trying to stick up for a match we both called trash. I think we can disagree on how good the under-card is considering you're claiming they're still decent and I don't think that makes me a stan when I can say weaker parts are still weak. I think there's a vast difference there than trying to make the worst part of your show look better than it is.

People thinking X-Seven is one of the stronger shows isn't a minority opinion. There's a strong consensus that most of the show is good to great. I just happen to fall in that category. If I was going to stan for anything, it would be WCW. I'll stick up for shit that most people would consider trash. The only thing I was doing is question why you think solid matches are funny to be called good or great.

That said, how many times do I have to repeat I was just fucking with Grim? He came into this thread already talking about 19 defeating 17 so I was fucking with him. I was trying to get his GOAT. I honestly think 19 is the second greatest Mania there is, but Jesus a man can't defend the historically best received wrestling PPV of all time in jest and get laughed at for it. So much for being able to have an opinion on this. I'll see myself out. @Chris

 

[Chris]

But bro you're acting like I called those matches trash when I just said I liked some XIX matches better than them, that's why I brought them up. If I said Rock/Austin was better than Angle/Brock would I be shitting on Angle/Brock? I can't compare matches without shitting on something? I didn't mean to hurt your feelings lol I've watched Mania X-Seven more than any other Mania easily bc it's one of the bests, but I didn't know that meant I had to love every second of it and think a seven minute Jericho/Regal match was great