I love Mike's arguments. They are ridiculously flawed. All they consist of is, "How do you know Batista wasn't intended on being a star?" If Tista was meant to be the star, then please, step right up and tell me when Batista won the IC Title, and held it for the longest anyone had in five years. Tell me when Batista got a gimmick that was meant to elevate him to the stars. Tell me when Batista had a huge feud with Mick Foley. Oh yeah ... none of that ever happened. Let's think back to Batista in Evolution: He beat Kane at Armageddon 02. Did nothing for ages. Lost to Michaels at Armageddon 03 (after Orton had beaten Michaels at Unforgiven), and won the tag titles. He sure was intended to be a huge star~!!~
WWE's thoughts on Tista and Orton aside, Batista is a shit wrestler. Roided up monkey is first that comes to mind when thinking about him. He has no great talent in the ring, and apparently cries like a little bitch when he doesn't get his way. Just send him packing, and push someone who knows how to talk into a mic.
I have to agree with the poster above, but... the biggest problem with Batista is by far his stupidly stale, boring ass character. Honestly, he needs to turn heel, that's where he strived and that's when he also performed best, imo.
LOL, my arguments are flawed? Please, you humor me. read the part I bolded.
That part of our argument was based on YOUR opinion. Your saying he's a shit wrestler, etc, as if that has some effect on whether or not he gets pushed. Wake up, dumbass.
WWE doesn't care if soemone is boring or not, or if they are shit or not, they still push them if they have the "look".
That doesn't mean I agree with it, because I dfind Batista pretty boring too actually.
BUT, he was obviously meant to be a huge star. Not THE huge star, but a huge star. Which means, he was planned to be a main eventer, just like Orton.
And actually, my arguments arent all based on "How do you know Batista wasn't meant to be big?"
But I will retype some of the points for you.
Firstly, in HHH's and Flair's dvd's, they both say that they hand picked Batiosta and Orton, because they thought the BOTH could be main event stars, based on their look and "work ethic". And they said int he dvd numerous times they planne for BOTH to be two of the faces of the company.
Secondly, since when is winning the tag team titles, with RIC FUCKING FLAIR, a small feat? No, he didn't win the IC title, but that doesn't mean they weren't planning on pushing him. IMO, having him destroy and beat the shit out of almost everyone on Raw, week after week for years from 2002 to 2005 was a pretty big push, to plan on giving him momentum for when they make him a main eventer. So that, and many other things show they were planning ahead of time to make him a main eventer as well.
Also, one more point. Another reason Batista's push wasn't because of Orton's push failing, is that, they could've done both at the same time if they wanted.
If they wanted to push both, they could've still, they could've had heel Ortonw in the Rumble, and go to SD to get pushed for a world title thing as well. The fact that they didn't decide to push Orton at that time (WM21) doesn't mean that that is the only reason Batista got his push. They simply chose Batista over Orton for that time.