Batista frustrated, will he retire?

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LadyHotrod

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What the hell?

Is it just me or do people cheer like crazy for this guy? He gets TOO much credit and he's whining about his push? Wow, fuck off.
 

MikeRaw

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Sorry, when I said I agreed, I didn't really mean about all the flawed argument stuff and even the Batista bashing to be taken literally. I simply find the character extremely boring nowadays, I was a HUGE fan when he was a heel in Evolution (see: NYR 2005 EC, best EC ever...). Skimmed his book as well and it wasn't too bad, lol, pretty funny. Also, it's no secret Batista has a history of bitching about little things, such as the reaction he got at ONS.

And Mike, what people are saying is that Batista wouldn't be nearly as big as he is if Goldberg and Brock Lesnar were still around, which is 100% fucking true. Hell, I'm not even sure if he would be main eventing right now, like you said before, it's about reaction. And Batista's would not even be close to what he got if those two guys (who had similar characters) were still there. That + the HUGE rub from Triple H/Evolution storyline got him EXTREMELY over. Also, I agree with you that they were both meant to be stars (of who which bigger is another argument... although I would say Orton), that's obvious. If any of you even watched during Evolution, you would know this, from the way Triple H hyped them BOTH, not just Orton. Batista and Orton both got the attention, and even more after Orton broke away. They were eventually both probably going to break off from Triple H/Flair. Orton was more of the main focus early, but the plan was either always, or decided a little ways down the line (before the break off of Orton) for them to turn eventually. It's really sad because looking back then it seemed Orton/Batista had much more talent than they do now.. =/. They've BOTH fell down a lot for whatever reasons (drugs, not caring anymore, etc.). Which is the reason I really wouldn't give a shit if Batista left, he's fucking stale and over with.


Yeah, I know what you mean. Like I said, I find him pretty boring as well.

So we agree on that. My only point is about the Brock and Goldberg thing. So, here's my point on that, and then I'm pretty well done in this thread.
IMO, Batista would still be main eventing if Goldberg and Brock were around, that's just what I think they were planning all along. But I don't however think he would be as big at all. So I agree with you there too (about him not being as big). I still think he would've been a main eventer, but not how he is now (a face of the company). I picture hima s being in a "main event" role more like Booker T was when he was here, or how JBL is now. Not by being a heel, but the fact that, even if he was a face, he would be a main evenmter, but not permanently, and not a huge name on the level of Cena and Taker, and HHH, etc.

So that's my opinion, that he was going to main event no matter what (but he wasn't planned to be as big as he is now). Any way you put it though, he's stale as shit.
 

the dark knight

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People bashing Batista while they should actually bash someone like Jeff Hardy as an example. A druggy that should actually been forced to get released rather than getting cheered and main event PPVs.
yea, lets fire all the good wrestlers cuz drug's a bad habbit :(

Batista whether you like him or hate him, he is entertaining and had what WWE need (no need for super skills in wrestling nor mic skills). Moderate + entertaining and hype and dont forget the size and merchandise.
whether we like him or not+stating your OPINION= epic fail. there's nothing more to add here.

It is true. Orton was in the star making spot. He was the IC champ, he was given the legend killer gimmick, he was the first one to break away. Batista was the bodyguard and an afterthought at best.

Batista was never intended to be the star Orton was supposed to be.

The WWE fucked up Orton's face turn, so they said; "hey we have a second chance, lets do it right this time."
ok, i think so too but if i remember correctly, edge (or someone else) cut a promo after he was drafted to raw and teased that all of evolution members are gonna turn on each other sooner or later (which later happened). im not sure if that was before or after orton got the title...if it was before, i guess your theory's not accurate cuz that would mean they did have an intention of pushing batista at some point. if it was after, then i completely agree with what you say.

my memory's phailing me.
It's very obvious Orton was intended to be the bigger star. In my opinion, Batista was just there to complete the stable. Orton was the IC Champion for more than half a year, he had the Legend Killer gimmick, went over HBK, Benoit, RVD, Mick Foley and multiple others, Batista was tag team champion.

Also, on the subject of Batista, WHY THE FUCK IS HE IN THE MAIN EVENT! Plus he is farr from entertaining

Promos: God damn, my grandma could cut a better promo. Let's talk about his supposed 'promos'. Remember his classic, 'My game plan: destroy everyone' promo? Or his favourite catchphrase (god he is The Rock isn't he >_>) 'I WANT MY TITLE BACK! RAWRR!' or 'IM NOT AFRAID OF YOU! RAWRR~!'

Matches: Sloppy, boring, repetetive, predictable. Yes, Big Dave has put on some good matches, but those were with some of the best workers in wrestling today (Cena, Trips, Taker).

Gimmick: See, that's the thing. HE HAS NO GIMMICK! What is he meant to be, the powerhouse? How in the blue hell is this guy in the Main Event on Raw?!
why's cena in the main event the way he is? not trying to be one of those vince-wanna-bes but you have to at least understand why some guys are pushed...

eventhough i think batista was ridiculously over-pushed. put ANYBODY over triple h 3 times in a row and he'll get cheered for 3 years....
 

Wrestling Station

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whether we like him or not+stating your OPINION= epic fail. there's nothing more to add here.
Epic fail? lol. I stated my own opinion, whether you like it or not; you cant refer to it as failer.
I support Batista, so what? if you dont like that, its not my problem.
 

the dark knight

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Epic fail? lol. I stated my own opinion, whether you like it or not; you cant refer to it as failer.
I support Batista, so what? if you dont like that, its not my problem.
you dont get it do you? you stated your opinion, which is fine. then, you tried to shove your opinion up our throats by saying "he IS entertaining".....