Sorry, when I said I agreed, I didn't really mean about all the flawed argument stuff and even the Batista bashing to be taken literally. I simply find the character extremely boring nowadays, I was a HUGE fan when he was a heel in Evolution (see: NYR 2005 EC, best EC ever...). Skimmed his book as well and it wasn't too bad, lol, pretty funny. Also, it's no secret Batista has a history of bitching about little things, such as the reaction he got at ONS.
And Mike, what people are saying is that Batista wouldn't be nearly as big as he is if Goldberg and Brock Lesnar were still around, which is 100% fucking true. Hell, I'm not even sure if he would be main eventing right now, like you said before, it's about reaction. And Batista's would not even be close to what he got if those two guys (who had similar characters) were still there. That + the HUGE rub from Triple H/Evolution storyline got him EXTREMELY over. Also, I agree with you that they were both meant to be stars (of who which bigger is another argument... although I would say Orton), that's obvious. If any of you even watched during Evolution, you would know this, from the way Triple H hyped them BOTH, not just Orton. Batista and Orton both got the attention, and even more after Orton broke away. They were eventually both probably going to break off from Triple H/Flair. Orton was more of the main focus early, but the plan was either always, or decided a little ways down the line (before the break off of Orton) for them to turn eventually. It's really sad because looking back then it seemed Orton/Batista had much more talent than they do now.. =/. They've BOTH fell down a lot for whatever reasons (drugs, not caring anymore, etc.). Which is the reason I really wouldn't give a shit if Batista left, he's fucking stale and over with.