ACW General Discussion

[Ben]

Sucks to hear that Kif, hopefully you change you mind as I always liked your RP's and had a great time back on the old site feuding with Bobby Beach.

On the whole PWA/ACW thing though, there's really nothing to worry about, Slim is keeping the original focus of the fed in sight and Pete and BDC are doing the same.

Not going to lie the constant referencing to PWA and trying to change stuff here to the way they did it there is pretty annoying, but nothings come of it and everything has stayed the same more or less. Plus we are getting shows on a regular basis, which is a plus and the future looks bright.

Just need to put a stop to all these bitch fights that all the threads in this section turn into. People that want everything to change and are trying to overhaul everything are doing nothing but annoying people that just want to RP. So everyone should just take a step back and just enjoy the system we have now and work within it's boundaries.

 

[Andy]

LOL, RRS, I love how you make me the scapegoat, but whatever. The only thing I've really pushed for to the point of annoyance was the grading system. And the reasoning behind why I lost my match was biased bullshit. That's part of the reason I did, but whatever. I could care less at this point. Apart from that, I've helped with the graphics, made a kayfabe site, given the staff ideas they actually like, made a title history thread, made title sigs, and so on.

I guess I've agreed with people on other suggestions, such as word caps with Primetime and single threads with many of the other dudes, but I haven't said much more than that.

As for the PWA/ACW thing, that's completely out of my hands.

What I do enjoy is the ACW Originals spheal. This fed is still barely established. It's like 3/4 months old at this point. The perfect time to change anything is always at the start. Just like you wouldn't wait until the last minute to change your answers on a test. And when we all arrived here it was even less established. This is the perfect time to run angles such as the ones they are running.

You want to talk about established feds...well, you might as well call our XUW fed that lasted around 3 days a few months back an established fed. We had active roleplayers. Systems. Sigs. Cards. Everything. And then we were invited back to ITR so we wrapped things up. And we set up XUW within a day. We reference the PWA not to spite the ACW, but to state its (minimal) problems that we encountered during the three YEARS the PWA was around. If this fed keeps folding, there has to be a reason.

In any case, stop being so defensive about every goddamn thing. The staff are doing a decent enough job and they don't deserve shit for changing things.

However, if you can't accept change, at least to the smallest extent, then I'm going to be frank and say go. BDC and Pete are hardworking, despite the shit they get. So with their addition, of course they were going to change things. You glorify things to make it seem like the fed actually had things going on before they came in. They're doing big things, honestly. Before they were added to the mix, the fed was about to die...again.

 

[Rated R Superstar]

LOL, RRS, I love how you make me the scapegoat, but whatever. The only thing I've really pushed for to the point of annoyance was the grading system. And the reasoning behind why I lost my match was biased bullshit. That's part of the reason I did, but whatever. I could care less at this point. Apart from that, I've helped with the graphics, made a kayfabe site, given the staff ideas they actually like, made a title history thread, made title sigs, and so on.

I guess I've agreed with people on other suggestions, such as word caps with Primetime and single threads with many of the other dudes, but I haven't said much more than that.

As for the PWA/ACW thing, that's completely out of my hands.

What I do enjoy is the ACW Originals spheal. This fed is still barely established. It's like 3/4 months old at this point. The perfect time to change anything is always at the start. Just like you wouldn't wait until the last minute to change your answers on a test. And when we all arrived here it was even less established. This is the perfect time to run angles such as the ones they are running.

You want to talk about established feds...well, you might as well call our XUW fed that lasted around 3 days a few months back an established fed. We had active roleplayers. Systems. Sigs. Cards. Everything. And then we were invited back to ITR so we wrapped things up. And we set up XUW within a day. We reference the PWA not to spite the ACW, but to state its (minimal) problems that we encountered during the three YEARS the PWA was around. If this fed keeps folding, there has to be a reason.

In any case, stop being so defensive about every goddamn thing. The staff are doing a decent enough job and they don't deserve shit for changing things.

However, if you can't accept change, at least to the smallest extent, then I'm going to be frank and say go. BDC and Pete are hardworking, despite the shit they get. So with their addition, of course they were going to change things. You glorify things to make it seem like the fed actually had things going on before they came in. They're doing big things, honestly. Before they were added to the mix, the fed was about to die...again.

Only reason I said that, was because you always brought up PWA and how it was run nearly perfect.

 

[Ben]

. We reference the PWA not to spite the ACW, but to state its (minimal) problems that we encountered during the three YEARS the PWA was around. If this fed keeps folding, there has to be a reason.

The fed folded because we had issues with creative not sticking around. The original set up with rules, sections, everything was never given a chance because of that, which is why with a creative team in place now, people wanted to see how the originals things they wanted would work. That's why the fed folded. It was stated constant times that changes could be made down the line, and instead you just pressed the whole PWA thing and turned every thread in the section into a "This is how PWA did it and that's how we should do it here" even after being told multiple times NO.

It rubbed people the wrong way, and made it seem like the fed they signed up for was going away, and all these new guys where taking over. There's good RP guys that have left because of this. It's not a situation with not being able to accept changes, it's a issue where no one wants to be in the fed and listen to all this bullshit.

 

[Andy]

The fed folded because we had issues with creative not sticking around. The original set up with rules, sections, everything was never given a chance because of that, which is why with a creative team in place now, people wanted to see how the originals things they wanted would work. That's why the fed folded. It was stated constant times that changes could be made down the line, and instead you just pressed the whole PWA thing and turned every thread in the section into a "This is how PWA did it and that's how we should do it here" even after being told multiple no.

It rubbed people the wrong way, and made it seem like the fed they signed up for was going away.

Yes, but I only did that with one issue and about two threads. People are dramatic. Once again though, the fed wasn't really established. The fact that they can't take suggestions for change and have to be defensive about everything is ridiculous.

I'll say it again though. Changing things later on down the lines is even worse. I'm pretty sure everyone saw the backlash about results.

 

[John McHenry]

In lies the problem. Your stating these are the problems here's how we fixed them in PWA I've been rping since at least 2006 most likely longer. Most of the issues you've encountered I have as well and I was head of quite a few feds. Do you see me saying well in RSM or on PWM we did this, we did that? Now if something makes sense cool. And I agree this fed hasn't been around long.

But the day you guys came over you started with the in PWA stuff and we'll make this PWA etc. So all of the PWA originals which means everyone on this forum that were here before the ITR merge were getting sick of hearing about PWA. The minute it starts to lighten up we get a PWA Invasion To me the proper point for the invasion has passed we've had 2 shows and a ppv since the joining. So why go this direction now. Just when the ACW people start to think the fed we established is safe bam it makes us weary.

I mean ACW is relatively new but we've been trying to start a fed on this forum since at least december the rp'ers that remained through the other two unsuccessful versions are probably sitting there saying what the fuck why are these ITR guys coming in and instantly allowed control? BDC and Pete are both doing a great job but as Luscious said why didn't you have to prove yourselves to the rp'ers and guys on this forum because we were the ones running the shit and doing the rps you came to our territory. If I joined PWA would I instantly be allowed in the main event cause I was in the main event in ACW?



That being said BDC and Pete are putting in a great effort. But look at the fed ACW is outnumbered even in the staff it's 2 to 1 so when you bring in an invasion angle it's like why you guys have like 20 we litterally have 4 guys that were here in the begining.

 

[Ben]

Jon I don't see a issue with the invasion angle tbh, it's a way to introduce some new guys, and I think it has been handled well so far, and has some promise.

The main issue for me is all this bitching and fighting, it just happens to much, like I said everyone just step back, RP, and have some fun.

 

[Andy]

In lies the problem. Your stating these are the problems here's how we fixed them in PWA I've been rping since at least 2006 most likely longer. Most of the issues you've encountered I have as well and I was head of quite a few feds. Do you see me saying well in RSM or on PWM we did this, we did that? Now if something makes sense cool. And I agree this fed hasn't been around long.
]But the day you guys came over you started with the in PWA stuff and we'll make this PWA etc. So all of the PWA originals which means everyone on this forum that were here before the ITR merge were getting sick of hearing about PWA. The minute it starts to lighten up we get a PWA Invasion To me the proper point for the invasion has passed we've had 2 shows and a ppv since the joining. So why go this direction now. Just when the ACW people start to think the fed we established is safe bam it makes us weary.

Again, I don't know where it came from, but whatever. And what's wrong with incorporating some elements of it? Huh? For any little thing people have gotten defensive. Even before I pushed for anything, people were like that.

I mean ACW is relatively new but we've been trying to start a fed on this forum since at least december the rp'ers that remained through the other two unsuccessful versions are probably sitting there saying what the fuck why are these ITR guys coming in and instantly allowed control? BDC and Pete are both doing a great job but as Luscious said why didn't you have to prove yourselves to the rp'ers and guys on this forum because we were the ones running the shit and doing the rps you came to our territory. If I joined PWA would I instantly be allowed in the main event cause I was in the main event in ACW?

Because we took our case about ITR folding directly to Troy before ITR was even shut down. Therefore, we came to an agree on what would happen with our fed and the three years of work we had put into it. I think we came to a great compromise. And though you don't like it, it's a lot more fair to us. Three years work is a lot more than a month or two.

That being said BDC and Pete are putting in a great effort. But look at the fed ACW is outnumbered even in the staff it's 2 to 1 so when you bring in an invasion angle it's like why you guys have like 20 we litterally have 4 guys that were here in the begining.

Yeah, but the angle's centered around every member of your roster that was in the ACW. It doesn't matter if the characters were true originals or not.

 

[Andy]

If I joined PWA would I instantly be allowed in the main event cause I was in the main event in ACW?

Actually, yeah, if you came over under the circumstances we did.

 

[John McHenry]

Jon I don't see a issue with the invasion angle tbh, it's a way to introduce some new guys, and I think it has been handled well so far, and has some promise.

The main issue for me is all this bitching and fighting, it just happens to much, like I said everyone just step back, RP, and have some fun.

We seriously need new and accurate rules posted this entire thread needs deleted cause it's just bitching every other post anyone looking to joins see this they'll never join.

 

[Andrew]

I've been putting off my RP this week because of the bitching, I almost feel like there isnt' any direction and a whole bunch of bullshit going on.

 

[John McHenry]

Because we took our case about ITR folding directly to Troy before ITR was even shut down. Therefore, we came to an agree on what would happen with our fed and the three years of work we had put into it. I think we came to a great compromise. And though you don't like it, it's a lot more fair to us. Three years work is a lot more than a month or two.

Ok so you want to preserve your three years. Where is that? Cause I have no sense of history of PWA from anything that's happened other than BDC beat 9 guys in one night but then lost the belt the following show. Having an Invasion angle isn't preserving the fed. Bring in the histories so we can see the show make it a real merge not a storyline merge.

 

[John McHenry]

I've said my peace vocalized what I think is going through the heads of some of the people. I'll rp and what not the next two shows but after that I have no idea. Because I do see a lack of structure and direction.

Though I'll add that some of Andy's good ideas are being shot down just because he's saying them first.

 

[Andy]

Ok so you want to preserve your three years. Where is that? Cause I have no sense of history of PWA from anything that's happened other than BDC beat 9 guys in one night but then lost the belt the following show. Having an Invasion angle isn't preserving the fed. Bring in the histories so we can see the show make it a real merge not a storyline merge.

Again, I'm not staff. Not my move. With the comment you quoted, I was mainly talking about how they gained their staff positions. And alright. How would you like that to be done?

 

[John McHenry]

Again, I'm not staff. Not my move. With the comment you quoted, I was mainly talking about how they gained their staff positions. And alright. How would you like that to be done?

move all the old rps and shows over to an archive sub forum here so if (especially during this angle) someone references a past event in an rp so that that character story fully continues others that werent in PWA can figure what the hell he's talking about. Back when you guys joined I actually made a brief history of John McHenry thread for that purpose Though I have no way of going and getting all that history.