A Good Day to Die Hard: Mafia with a Vengeance [Game Thread]

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I’ve only ever had one serial killer win in any of my games, but people love freaking out of the ones that had zero chance to win for some stupid reason.
 

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I’m not trying to have a go btw, I can see why you did it that way. Just trying to discuss it as I thought it made ekko’s role feel way more fake than it should have. I don’t blame ekkos role on him doing his bizarre play or anything
 

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If he kills he’s not immune. So no, he’s not immune to the tracker or the watcher and the cop only checks if they’re mafia or not. That’s the point of the FBI role.

He was punished. He was dueled. But you think the moment the serial killer has to claim he should be doomed. These points you make I’d actually agree with more if this section didn’t do mass claims. But with mass claims, you have to claim no matter eventually and then he’s just doomed to get shot by either the vig or the mafia. Man, y’all must love having impossible to win roles you like hardship so much it seems.
Huh??? You’re acting like survivor was his only claim? No that was a shit claim that he shouldn’t have made. He’s hardly doomed if he makes a good claim based on one of the 79 roles he has is he.
 

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I’ve only ever had one serial killer win in any of my games, but people love freaking out of the ones that had zero chance to win for some stupid reason.
Yes, serial killers don’t win very often because it’s an incredibly hard role to win. Their wins are highly celebrated for that reason. The role is mostly just for fun lol. Ghat balance is good, there’s no need to stack them to the tits in order to try and help them win
 
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Even if he had a good claim, I personally think with how much they have to overcome they should have to be lynched, personally, and not shot. It’s just too easy.

But whatever. I can’t keep doing this. Let’s just move on. People clearly just don’t like my way of doing things. Just get the next game going, please.
 

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Yes, serial killers don’t win very often because it’s an incredibly hard role to win. Their wins are highly celebrated for that reason. The role is mostly just for fun lol. Ghat balance is good, there’s no need to stack them to the tits in order to try and help them win

I’ve stacked most of serial killers and they all still lose. It’s really nothing to keep worrying about. I don’t get it.
 

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I’ve stacked most of serial killers and they all still lose. It’s really nothing to keep worrying about. I don’t get it.
Because even if they lose they still effect that game, ya know…?
 

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I’m probably not hosting again for a very long time, but if I ever host again I will not include a serial killer ever again. You heard it here first. Problem solved.

No serial killer, no serial killer cop.

Y’all win. Let’s move on now.
 
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I don’t really know why you bother hosting if you can’t take any feedback tbh lol
 

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I don’t really know why you bother hosting if you can’t take any feedback tbh lol
Getting shit on every game is just exhausting. Why you think that would be fun, idk.

And I'm not. I don't plan on hosting for the foreseeable future.
 

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Getting shit on every game is just exhausting. Why you think that would be fun, idk.

And I'm not. I don't plan on hosting for the foreseeable future.
I’m not shitting on you, I even said I don’t blame ekkos role for anything he did. I’m discussing what I think you should have done with his role, that’s all.
 

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I’m not shitting on you, I even said I don’t blame ekkos role for anything he did. I’m discussing what I think you should have done with his role, that’s all.
You called it bastard, that seems pretty insulting, and then there was all the previous talk earlier about the setup being unfair.

I try every game to take feedback and improve, but there's always an issue.

I put so many restrictions on both town and mafia, and no one ever notices this. I tried so hard to make the game more fair.

If you hadn't said bastard, and simply said, I probably wouldn't let his immunity work here, fine, but bastard is just so demoralizing.

I also quickly made this game to get a game going and made 3 roles last minute so balancing that last minute was tricky. It just is what it is.
 

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At the end of the day this is what hosting is. People put their time and energy into it and they’re gonna have opinions. And that’s part of the gig with hosting. You create a game, you make mistakes, get feedback, learn and try to make a better game next time. Doesn’t matter how many games you’ve hosted or how much experience you have, you’re still gonna make mistakes. That’s the nature of the beast, you can’t always consider all possible outcomes, and when you try new things you’re probably gonna get it at least a bit wrong. Happens to everybody. I certainly still make mistakes with hosting too but I don’t whinge about it when somebody points them out to me lol. If I disagree with them then I’ll explain my thinking, or if I think they’re right then I’ll agree and put some thought into how I’ll handle it next time. Most of the time I’m already aware of the mistakes I’ve made before the game is over anyway, whereas your attitude seems to be that your game is perfect and everything you did was correct. That’s rarely ever the case lol
 

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You called it bastard, that seems pretty insulting, and then there was all the previous talk earlier about the setup being unfair.

I try every game to take feedback and improve, but there's always an issue.

I put so many restrictions on both town and mafia, and no one ever notices this. I tried so hard to make the game more fair.

If you hadn't said bastard, and simply said, I probably wouldn't let his immunity work here, fine, but bastard is just so demoralizing.

I also quickly made this game to get a game going and made 3 roles last minute so balancing that last minute was tricky. It just is what it is.
Lol i guess I just throw that term around. He was led to believe he can catch the serial killer and he couldn’t really, so I was like ah that’s a bit bastard. It’s not like I’m saying this was a bastard game lol. Sorry if you thought that’s what I was saying
 

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Yall wine about the dumbest shit , no offense. There was 0 wrong with ekkos role, he just wrongfully assumed that a no result on barry somehow meant something it didn't, and didn't consider the game stats since when he pulled his fake stuff, barry was already getting duelled. Sk's are allowed to have perks and sometimes you do good usage but don't get rewarded. That's mafia , get over it and stop crying to hosts every time something doesn't go your way :draper2 . 0 reason to write multiple paragraphs either when smark already explained thisto ekko in dead qt. It's a game , gentlemen