1/2/12 Raw Discussion Thread (Mystery Man Raw)

[Hometown Kid]

So yeah, no thread and such...any interest to what's gonna happen when Jeric-err the mystery man shows up? Maybe picks on who it's gonna be?

I thought Jericho since the beginning, but part of me is anticapating a swerve similar to the Matt/Jeff/Christian angle 3 years ago for some reason. I keep having this idea that it's Brodus Clay, since the clues point to him in some way or another. Also Rey Mysterio might be an outside chance too, if there's some idea for a gimmick change like an avenger or if he wants to try going heel (Which I wouldn't do.) The angle's played out pretty awesomely with the vignettes though in my opinion. A highlight of Raw for me usually in fact.

So yeah...thoughts?

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

Re: 1/2/12 Mystery Man.

It's Jericho or Taker. I'm going with Jericho as one PWI is 99% certain it's him and Meltz is 100% certain it isn't him but PWInsider has been better at this than Meltz and Co have been all year long. Plus Jericho is trying to "work" the IWC in an eerily similar fashion to 07 when he returned. I'd rather Jericho as Taker is a given, but unless Taker is going to work a few shows before Mania or they just have an insanely good opponent for him at Mania (like the Trips return last year) I see no reason to have him return so soon to begin the build for a match three months down the road. Jericho can work the young talent till he gets to Punk at WM.

 

[Hometown Kid]

Re: 1/2/12 Mystery Man.

Meltzer's slippin', huh? >_>

Anyway, the only thing that makes me doubt that it's Jericho is the tone of the videos, while they have religious references and such, but it just seems a little too serious of a character for Jericho to play, and if it is, where would Jericho go with it? If it's him, I think he's winning the Rumble. Plus, Jericho could wait a little while longer and come back as a babyface. They're hinting at it though and i'm pretty sure it's him, I wouldn't put money on it though.

Chris was the name on the notebook though...so yeah.

 

[Luke Flywalker]

Re: 1/2/12 Mystery Man.

The Rumble winner will be Wade Barrett, whether Jericho is there or not.

I have my money on Jericho for this. While its different, Jericho said all along he didn't want to return unless he had a "fresh" character to play. It's still on some savior vibe, so it still fits with his other stuff. My only problem is the "2nd" coming... which really narrows a lot of options. Clay was never really there in the first place. Taker's way beyond 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 9th comings. That doesn't fit with Jericho either tho, as it would be his 3rd coming >_>

But I could just be reaching with that one... or it could have been the throw-off... or 2nd coming meant... coming on the 2nd...

I'm going with Jericho tho. The "Chris" on the notebook was very telling.

 

[Hometown Kid]

Re: 1/2/12 Mystery Man.

Wade? What makes you think that? Who would he challenge? I personally think if it's not Jericho, then Sheamus or Ziggler are who'd i'd bank on. Wade could have a potentially intriguing feud with Punk, but I doubt they'd go for WM for that, and Bryan probably won't make it out of EC as champion. His feud with Orton's really flat right now, (Despite a pretty awesome brawl on SD) but no way that feud lasts til WM. I think this may be the year they have a super curveball (Like Justin Gabriel, Tyson Kidd, McGillicutty level guy) winner that nobody expects, since Cena/Rock will sell the show and the RR to me really needs to have someone like that every once like a decade to add some realism into what should be a hugely unpredictable and random and chaotic match. I hate how a star guy wins every year, even if it is smart booking business-wise.

Back to the mystery guy, what threw me off is the part about the girl being his shephard or something. What kinda clue is that?

Personal outside guess: Buff Bagwell.

 

[trilogy]

Re: 1/2/12 Mystery Man.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe...e_on_WWE_s_Cryptic_Videos_Tomko_s_Arrest.html

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

Re: 1/2/12 Mystery Man.

That vignette piece was the dumbest piece of "news" ever. So one week before the guy is supposed to appear, the vignettes will make it clear who it's supposed to be? Really??!!! Holy fuck, I wish sites like LOP were nothing more than trojan sites that bombard the visitors with pc crashing viruses...wait...

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

Re: 1/2/12 Mystery Man.

The Rumble winner will be Wade Barrett, whether Jericho is there or not.

I have my money on Jericho for this. While its different, Jericho said all along he didn't want to return unless he had a "fresh" character to play. It's still on some savior vibe, so it still fits with his other stuff. My only problem is the "2nd" coming... which really narrows a lot of options. Clay was never really there in the first place. Taker's way beyond 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 9th comings. That doesn't fit with Jericho either tho, as it would be his 3rd coming >_>

But I could just be reaching with that one... or it could have been the throw-off... or 2nd coming meant... coming on the 2nd...

I'm going with Jericho tho. The "Chris" on the notebook was very telling.

What happened to your certainty of it being Taker AND McCool?

 

[Luke Flywalker]

Re: 1/2/12 Mystery Man.

What happened to your certainty of it being Taker AND McCool?

The 3rd video really made me consider it, but the apparent revoking of how important the girl is in terms of a possible role or presence in this storyline, has made me reconsider.

I was never really "CERTAIN" of that one tho, just keeping open the option of us not having another Sting incident >_>. The basis of the videos does seem to suit Taker and the reports of them both pitching ideas to creative when they visited recently made me think it was a possibility.

 

[imported_#Heel]

Re: 1/2/12 Mystery Man.

these viginettes fuck with my mind - i hope its jericho but i have a feeling it will be shane and stephanie

 

[PeepShow]

Re: 1/2/12 Mystery Man.

Yeah, that last video sure gave away who it was...

Fuck, I think that was the most cryptic one yet if you ask me. Does anyone have a link to the video with the "Chris" notebook in it? I don't think I ever saw it.

But...









































BROCK

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[PeepShow]

Also, use this as the discussion thread for Monday's Raw if you will. Hopefully we can get some talk going again.

 

[PeepShow]

Oh, and just a theory, but what about Batista? He's done with MMA right? Lashley too? Idk

Here's my order of predictions:

1. Jericho.

If not Jericho, then 2. Undertaker.

If not Taker, then one of these three:

3. BROCK
4. Batista
5. Lashley

 

[nation]

Oh, and just a theory, but what about Batista? He's done with MMA right? Lashley too? Idk

Here's my order of predictions:

1. Jericho.

If not Jericho, then 2. Undertaker.

If not Taker, then one of these three:

3. BROCK
4. Batista
5. Lashley

Lashley? Sorry bud but you're officially Blue, Lucas.

 

[Luke Flywalker]

^Lashley's contract with TNA is over, he's not doing much in MMA right now, and he just recently said (last week) that he's got unfinished business in the WWE.



There's no way this is Brodus Clay... and if it IS Brodus Clay, they completely fucked everyone when Ace mentioned him last week... I highly doubt the WWE is that Blue, I'm sure they did that to end speculation that it was Clay as THAT would have been a letdown.

I still say Jericho, I doubt it's any of the MMA'ers... but I have this nagging feeling it's Taker... which wouldn't suck, but they could do a LOT MORE with Taker than this...