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  1. 2012 Will Define Cody, And Can He Connect?

    I just do not understand this. Everybody downplays Cody by judging him with the likes of Orton, Cena, and Punk. Is he a draw like any of those men? No. But there is nobody close to his level in the mid card. In fact, he is the ENTIRE upper mid card. Cody has been the greatest IC champ since...

  2. Put the Wrestler in their Place. Where Do They Belong?

    Hate to burst your bubble but it works the other way around. Nobody left a lita match. Or a Hardy boys, Edge and Christian and Dudley boys match. WWE built up the tag division in the AE, as well as the women stars. They are just foot notes now, used to give people breaks between long and...

  3. 2012 Will Define Cody, And Can He Connect?

    He was talking to me, i'm pretty sure. I have already addressed him in the post Above/Below depending on your thread set up. Im not disagreeing with you my dude I just think we are not communicating very well.

  4. Put the Wrestler in their Place. Where Do They Belong?

  5. Put the Wrestler in their Place. Where Do They Belong?

    So Punk and Jericho are FE? Just asking. Do you view the IC and WHC as Fillers? Just asking again. Oher than that, your list pretty much matchs mine.

  6. Put the Wrestler in their Place. Where Do They Belong?

    There is no right or wrong in where you place a certain wrestler. Maybe you see something others miss. So don't feel like you have to go with common wisdom. You can be original. Note: Fillers are "Bathroom Break" guys and FE stands for "future endeavored". Legend: Rock HHH Undertaker Jericho...

  7. 2012 Will Define Cody, And Can He Connect?

    John McHenry: I have never changed my points. I have had to change the way in which I explain them. You kow why? B/C you start taking everything I say, twisting it into something I never meant, and just for good measures, adding your own version of what I'm saying. You have issues, not me...

  8. 2012 Will Define Cody, And Can He Connect?

    I don't mean the face of the WWE as it's main guy, like Cena. I am totally with you on that. As you saw in my OP, I clrearly stated that he has a "connection" problem. But that is with the WWE audience. And he will have to do what the Rock and Orton did to get viewed as "cool". That's the only...

  9. 2012 Will Define Cody, And Can He Connect?

    Yes, that is correct. Once his push is complete, and he is WHC, you have the added benifit that his style and look has hollywood writen all over it. The Rock and Orton had the same quality. If you put Punk or Bryan on any of the late night shows, infront of an audience who largely would not...

  10. 2012 Will Define Cody, And Can He Connect?

    John McHenry: You dont get it. You just dont get it. No, the same can't be said for evrybody else. I wont even argue that with you B/C if you cant understand how cody could end up HW champ, and be that public face for the WWE... Nevermind. Marketing is lost on you. And I did NOT randomly...

  11. Your Hopes For WWE in 2012

    Big Red Miz Punk: Don't know how long you have been watching but Orton has not only won the WWE Title at WM, he retained it. Against both Cena and HHH. Which is top honors. Go back and watch WM 24, It was a dandi.

  12. 2012 Will Define Cody, And Can He Connect?

    Look, there was a lot of "Dog Whistle" coded in my OP. But it got lost in translation some where. So I will be very blunt this time. This was all writen as an analysis of his potential, and not what is going on at the moment. Yes I checked the boxes on his current skill list, and opined on his...

  13. 2012 Will Define Cody, And Can He Connect?

    KeepingItFresh: By weight standards he is a HW. 215lbs is not a cruiser weight. And yes, height matters a lot when it comes to the optics. It is why the under 6 foot crowd has a hard time getting over as main eventers. Yes there are exceptions, so don't bring them up because they themselves...

  14. 2012 Will Define Cody, And Can He Connect?

    I want to check the boxes on his skill list. very technical, agressive, and athletic in the ring. He has a very modern style look. It's closer to Justin Beiber than a traditional "rassler". 6'2" 215lbs is HW material, but not so big that you say, "Seen that before... (Mason Ryan)" Acting...

  15. WWE predictions for 2012

    There are only three stars to watch in 2012: John Cena, Dolph Ziggler, and Cody Rhodes. The direction of these three guys is going to tell me a whole hell of a lot about where the WWE is headed. John Cena must go heel at WM against The Rock in Miami (Rock's hometown). That would maximise the...

  16. Is CM Punk's Charcter Believable?

    Hey guys, this conversation was productive untill spamming was introduced:) Seriously, I could agree with you guys... but then we would all be wrong... Now I have to go there. You baited me. During Punk headlined PPV's, They are a net negative 31,000 buys. 400,000 viewers have left since...

  17. Is CM Punk's Charcter Believable?

    Goldberg from '98 to the spring of 99 was also 3 times the draw than Punk. How-ever, If you watched that Era, You would know that most people saw Goldberg as a WCW rip off of the SCSA look, (not character) and was not half the drawing power of Austin. Austin holds the record in every catagory...

  18. Is CM Punk's Charcter Believable?

    Well, In all of your opinions Punk is entertaining. In my opinion he is very entertaining. But one poster did goes as far to insinuate how Punk was more entertaining than Austin ever was. Fine. In his opinion that might be true. But, on the other hand, when I point out that the actuall numbers...

  19. Is CM Punk's Charcter Believable?

    Punk is 6'1" on the 4 inch lifts, just like Kane goes from 6'7" to 6'11" on his lifts. Punk is 5'9" in real life and about 195 lbs. I have shook the man's hand at signing ceremonies here in Dallas when he is in regular shoes. I am 6'2" 212lbs, and I had to look down to make eye contact. I have...

  20. Is CM Punk's Charcter Believable?

    Let me lay some historical facts out for you buddy: -Austin era = 7% of house holds watching -14,000 Attendance average -1.3 PPV BR Ave. -Punk era = 3% of house holds watching -4,900 Attenance average - .6 PPV BR Ave. Now it looks like to me, the OBJECTIVE FACTS make you look pretty silly...
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