Christian Cage/TNA/WWE Updates and Discussions

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

I was clearing up what the hell I said ok.

People trying to say I want him on ECW or something along them lines.I mean hell if he goes to WWE I want him on Raw ok but I perfer he stays with TNA.

So don't try to say I said something over and over yes I might have but I did it to clear it up because I'm not gonna have people thinking I said something I didn't you got that.

You forced this upon yourself:

I hope he stays in TNA

for more then one reason

1.He might get buried in WWE

2.If he goes to SD I'm screwed out of seeing his matches until PPV's

There's once.

Ok look the only show I can see him getting any type of push in is maybe ECW.

Raw has to many stars for him to get a great push and he will get lost within the crowd.

SD-Has Triple H who is running over everyone will probably get him a push to the title and all that have a great main event set up and bam he gets squashed in there match.(added the fact I also would not get to see any of Christian matches anymore which I like watching)

ECW imo is the only place he could get pushed and I get bored of watching it sometimes.

so I hope he stays with TNA.

Number two.

Yeah unless he is on Smackdown where last I checked is on a channel not many people get.

I enjoy watching his matches because he puts on good matches if he goes to WWE right and ends up on SD then well I'm screwed until PPV's

now if he goes to WWE and is on Raw then I'll be watching still but probably longer then I usely do..

if he goes to ECW I might just start watching it.

Three.

Three times that you had already said you can't watch him on SmackDown! Three times before you were 'just done clearing somethin up'. THREE TIMES! Fuck, I don't come into a thread to see someone repeating themselves over and over.

God, I hope Cage goes to SmackDown!

 

[Vegeta]

see this is what I was clearing up after that last post of mine you posted.

Why in the hell would he go to ECW?

LMAO, you were talking about Cage getting buried if he goes back to WWE but if he went there and was put on ECW that would be worse then back when he was IC Champ because then he would most likely be ECW Champ which is probably the shitiest title around atm. Putting him on ECW would bury him for sure, wasting his talents their

I was trying to tell them I never said I wanted him to go to ECW.

I would hate for him to be on ECW ok which is what I wanted to get across which is why I said what I said.

 

[CT Styles]

The only thing you get across though is the fact you can't watch SmackDown! because you don't fucking shut up about it.

Cage should go to SmackDown! anyway. RAW is too packed and he would struggle to find his way. Have him on SD to feud with Hunter, Hardy or Edge.

 

[PeepShow]

see this is what I was clearing up after that last post of mine you posted.







I was trying to tell them I never said I wanted him to go to ECW.

I would hate for him to be on ECW ok which is what I wanted to get across which is why I said what I said.

I never recall saying you wanted him to go there, I just asked why would he.

 

[The A-man]

The Rock DID 'sellout' and so will Christian if he leaves. You can deny it and ride his cock as much as you want, but just because he 'says' something, doesn't mean it's held in stone as truth. Don't be so damn gullible, you actually believe he left WWE to go to TNA for change..? Rofl, that makes no sense whatsoever and isn't even arguable. But, it's arguable for his intentions to return to WWE. The fact is, none of us will truly know.

Oh noes!!! Not the overused and very cliched "ride his cock" comment!!

It's sad that you say that I'm gullible to believe that The Rock didn't sell out yet you believe that he did. What kind of LOGICAL proof do you have to say that Rocky DID indeed sell out? I hope its not because that you feel that he owes you something and you wanted him to keep wrestling and not allowing a grown man like himself to do what HE wants to do. If you don't any basis for you own statements then you yourself have nothing else to go on and your just as lost as you claimed me to be.

And as for my comment on Christian leaving for TNA for some change? Techinically it does makes sense because its his reason for doing so and its arguable because is it apparently reasonable and valid, open to argument or debate, and marked by or capable of arousing controversy. I would've never made a statement like that if I wasn't entirely sure about it.

Dude, in all do respect don't blindly attacking people's opinion just because you don't agree with it. I made my previous post with a sense of thought and reason based on facts. If you can't see any of those then I feel sorry for you.

 

[Travis40]

Do you guys know that Blaze can't watch Smackdown? :shifty:

I'm guessing we'll know the final result of this whole situation at the end of the week.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

The Rock did sell out. And no, not to us, because he ows us nothing, even though we are the ones that made them "over" and eventually so over that he got contacted by Hollywood, and we were the ones that went and watched his first movies.

You know why he sold out? Just for the fact that he can't be bothered to do a pre-tape promo for Raw every once in a while. Raw 15 Anniversary, appearences from stars all over. The Rock could just have taped a funny segment ripping on Vince, not even be live. Did he? Oh hell no.

And why? Because he wants to be considered an actor, not an acting wrestler.

 

[Moonlight Drive]

The Rock did sell out. And no, not to us, because he ows us nothing, even though we are the ones that made them "over" and eventually so over that he got contacted by Hollywood, and we were the ones that went and watched his first movies.

Yes, and he has re-payed us with those movies we've all gone to see, and the hours and hours of entertainment he has provided.

You know why he sold out? Just for the fact that he can't be bothered to do a pre-tape promo for Raw every once in a while. Raw 15 Anniversary, appearences from stars all over. The Rock could just have taped a funny segment ripping on Vince, not even be live. Did he? Oh hell no.

But how do we know he was even approached? And he did a pre-taped promo before Wrestlemania 23, at least he isn't whored out every 4 months for a Special Referee match like Stone Cold to the point where his appearances are repetetive and mean nothing.

And why? Because he wants to be considered an actor, not an acting wrestler.

So he doesn't have the right to do what he wants with his life? Does he not have the right to be considered a legitimate actor? If he wants to make it in Hollywood on his acting merits and not wrestling merits, good on him.

 

[This Guy]

The Rock did sell out. And no, not to us, because he ows us nothing, even though we are the ones that made them "over" and eventually so over that he got contacted by Hollywood, and we were the ones that went and watched his first movies.

You know why he sold out? Just for the fact that he can't be bothered to do a pre-tape promo for Raw every once in a while. Raw 15 Anniversary, appearences from stars all over. The Rock could just have taped a funny segment ripping on Vince, not even be live. Did he? Oh hell no.

And why? Because he wants to be considered an actor, not an acting wrestler.

So what? I hate all this they sold out crap. Were all sell outs, we've all done it before. We have a job, and we take another one because it pays more money. Doesn't make us sell outs. We do it for our own personal reasons. To support a family to pay off debts faster, all sorts of reasons.

Christian going back to WWE doesn't make him a sell out. All the reasons listed are entirely possible. Someone said to better support his family. Then someone else said that was crap because the WWE has a full schedule. Who says Christian has to work a full schedule....Shawn Michaels doesn't. Does that make Shawn Michaels a sell out or have no passion for us the fans or the buisness? Hell no. Shawn didn't have to come back at all. He had the itch, the passion and the desire to return. But wanted to make time for his family as well. Who's to say Christian couldn't get the same deal. Did you guys realize that Nash recently said in an interview he gets stopped in airports and asked if he still wrestles? He's one of the biggest names in TNA and people don't even know he's there or that TNA exists. Maybe Christian misses the fact that even though he was a main event star he was still better known around the world as a mid carder in the WWE? Maybe its just ego.

Christian is not a sell out for changing companies. The Rock was not a sell out for following his heart into acting, and Brock Lesnar was not a sell out for leaving wrestling to try Football and then MMA. They owe us nothing. They are adults, they make the same decisions in life that we do. They are human and should have the right to do what they want, go where they want without everyone else treating them like slaves and like they should have to only do what we want them to do.

 

[Vegeta]

So what? I hate all this they sold out crap. Were all sell outs, we've all done it before. We have a job, and we take another one because it pays more money. Doesn't make us sell outs. We do it for our own personal reasons. To support a family to pay off debts faster, all sorts of reasons.

Christian going back to WWE doesn't make him a sell out. All the reasons listed are entirely possible. Someone said to better support his family. Then someone else said that was crap because the WWE has a full schedule. Who says Christian has to work a full schedule....Shawn Michaels doesn't. Does that make Shawn Michaels a sell out or have no passion for us the fans or the buisness? Hell no. Shawn didn't have to come back at all. He had the itch, the passion and the desire to return. But wanted to make time for his family as well. Who's to say Christian couldn't get the same deal. Did you guys realize that Nash recently said in an interview he gets stopped in airports and asked if he still wrestles? He's one of the biggest names in TNA and people don't even know he's there or that TNA exists. Maybe Christian misses the fact that even though he was a main event star he was still better known around the world as a mid carder in the WWE? Maybe its just ego.

Christian is not a sell out for changing companies. The Rock was not a sell out for following his heart into acting, and Brock Lesnar was not a sell out for leaving wrestling to try Football and then MMA. They owe us nothing. They are adults, they make the same decisions in life that we do. They are human and should have the right to do what they want, go where they want without everyone else treating them like slaves and like they should have to only do what we want them to do.

I hate when people use that everyones done it line.

Not everyone has done it.Alright.

That is like when people get in trouble for doing drugs they say everyone has done it.

and its not the fact its a job for more money really.Its he left WWE for a reason right cause he felt they was under using him.Ok so he goes to TNA and becomes a top star there.Now the WWE wants him back offering him alot more money and all that.So if he goes back he screwed over the company that used him right to his full potential for the company that kept him in the tag team and mid-card his whole run.He only got in the mainevent near the end of his run so WWE could try to keep him but it didn't work.

Thats why I think he is a sale out.

 

[Moonlight Drive]

I still am looking for the point in time when doing something for you and not anybody else became 'selling out'.

and its not the fact its a job for more money really.Its he left WWE for a reason right cause he felt they was under using him.Ok so he goes to TNA and becomes a top star there.Now the WWE wants him back offering him alot more money and all that.So if he goes back he screwed over the company that used him right to his full potential for the company that kept him in the tag team and mid-card his whole run.He only got in the mainevent near the end of his run so WWE could try to keep him but it didn't work.

Yes, he was a top star. Then he was pushed down the card into a random mid-card pairing with Rhino while older stars like Steiner, Nash, Sting etc. were pushed over a young man in his prime. He actually reached the near Main Event around May, which was months before he probably even contemplated leaving.

Thats why I think he is a sale out.

So doing something that will benefit you is being a 'sale out'?

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

I hate when people use that everyones done it line.

Not everyone has done it.Alright.

That is like when people get in trouble for doing drugs they say everyone has done it.

and its not the fact its a job for more money really.Its he left WWE for a reason right cause he felt they was under using him.Ok so he goes to TNA and becomes a top star there.Now the WWE wants him back offering him alot more money and all that.So if he goes back he screwed over the company that used him right to his full potential for the company that kept him in the tag team and mid-card his whole run.He only got in the mainevent near the end of his run so WWE could try to keep him but it didn't work.

Thats why I think he is a sale out.

Everyone who is good enough to get a better job has done it.

You're an idiot. Drugs are illegal. Getting a higher paying job isn't.

The only reason TNA used him like they did is because he came from WWE. So WWE is really the only reason for his push.

WWE never wanted him to go. So of course they're going to offer him a lot of money to come back. What's your point?

I'm glad you know why WWE gave Christian a push. Can you tell me what they discuss at their next creative meeting?

 

[Vegeta]

Everyone who is good enough to get a better job has done it.

You're an idiot. Drugs are illegal. Getting a higher paying job isn't.

The only reason TNA used him like they did is because he came from WWE. So WWE is really the only reason for his push.

WWE never wanted him to go. So of course they're going to offer him a lot of money to come back. What's your point?

I'm glad you know why WWE gave Christian a push. Can you tell me what they discuss at their next creative meeting?

Not really.

Now I know your try to turn this around saying its not a job.But there been people offed money to come from IRL to Nascar and turned it down and Nascar pays alot more money.They turned it down because they feel they should stay committed to there team and fans of the sport and not leave it.

so yeah that would be a better job and all but no see they turn it down.

But hey its not a done deal yet.As Roxxi said TNA could be screwing with us and he signed a contract already.

 

[CT Styles]

Fuck this 'sell-out' shit. He is a professional athlete, if he wasn't what you call a 'sell-out' he wouldn't have even made it to where he is. Moving companies is his choice, whether it's for the money, the popularity, his ego, who cares? If he wants to move companies, the other company's offering, why the fuck not?! It's his career! He has stuff he wants to achieve, he has stuff he wants, he should try his hardest to gain that stuff.

Just shut up with this 'sell-out' shit.

 

[Great One]

Oh noes!!! Not the overused and very cliched "ride his cock" comment!!

It's sad that you say that I'm gullible to believe that The Rock didn't sell out yet you believe that he did. What kind of LOGICAL proof do you have to say that Rocky DID indeed sell out? I hope its not because that you feel that he owes you something and you wanted him to keep wrestling and not allowing a grown man like himself to do what HE wants to do. If you don't any basis for you own statements then you yourself have nothing else to go on and your just as lost as you claimed me to be.

And as for my comment on Christian leaving for TNA for some change? Techinically it does makes sense because its his reason for doing so and its arguable because is it apparently reasonable and valid, open to argument or debate, and marked by or capable of arousing controversy. I would've never made a statement like that if I wasn't entirely sure about it.

Dude, in all do respect don't blindly attacking people's opinion just because you don't agree with it. I made my previous post with a sense of thought and reason based on facts. If you can't see any of those then I feel sorry for you.

First off, I wasn't directing all of those specifically at you, especially the 'ride the cock' thing, although I especially felt you were being extremely naive with 'TNA for change' comment.

The Rock is and will always be my favorite wrestler. Like you are proving now, this is one of the most ignorant, worthless arguments EVER, seriously, it's like arguing abortion with fanatic conservatists, no matter what I say you and everyone else will continue to say, "WELL ITS HIS CHOICE HE OWES YOU NOTHING!". Learn to comprehend, I know he owes me nothing, I know it's his choice, I don't fucking care, morons. The fact is, by the subjective definition of a sell-out, which is defined by the EXACT actions The Rock took (the same actions continously clarified by the mindless people who defend him), HE SOLD OUT. He quit wrestling, the lower rate, lower pay, lower fame stage for a much higher fame stage. Oh, and he also said wrestling was his life and dream and in his blood before, so scratch off that "acting being his dream" thing.

Lol, it's not reasonable, since you wouldn't leave a company where you are making much more money just to go to a lower level company for "change". This is life. There is a miniscule possibility, but you'd probably have to be mentally impaired, which from countless interviews we can assume that Christian was perfectly sane in mind.

Dude, I wasn't "blindly" attacking anyone except for the people blindly defending Christian/The Rock and trying to defend and justify them. So, I will attack any fucking opinion I like if I disagree with it, and if you think that's wrong then get the fuck off the FORUM, because that's what the forum is fucking for. And if you don't know this about a forum after all these years, I REALLY feel sorry for you.

Also, I think you are confusing me with someone who is upset with The Rock or Christian leaving, etc. In actuality, I could give two shits less about who 'sold out' and etc. This is just the common definition followed and I'm simply enforcing that. If I needed/wanted the money or power and was in the same position, hell yeah I would do it too. I think I might like wrestling too much to give it up entirely, but if my body was fucked up/on the verge of being fucked up, then there might be no choice. So yeah, I do believe a person should be able to change for whatever he wants, but there will always be people who are angry and pissed off with the person leaving, hence where the term derived from. As CMS pointed out earlier, I don't think him not giving anything to the WWE officially made him a sell out then, but I do think he could have at least done something for the WWE since it's obvious all the fans want him back and he was supposedly always for what the fans want, but meh. So in conclusion, you don't even have to try to refute me, I would prefer you not, since I don't even know why I took this stance in this shitty argument. It's a shitty term, but it speaks truth in definition. The best way I could sum this up to explain it would be with an analogy. Take the word, "whore" for example, a girl sleeping with multiple guys (possibly for money), it's her choice to do, she's an adult, so she has the right, right (Quote This Guy)? Well, that may be true, but it's regardless she'll be seen as a 'whore' for her actions, just like the Rock will be seen as a "sell-out". And I gaurantee you Christian will be seen as the biggest sell-out of all time by the TNA fans if he goes back to the WWE. Society sucks, right TBKB?