TLC WWE TLCS 2014 Live Discussion

[Jacob Fox]

Compare Reigns to Rocky, Hogan, Cena at the same level of development. Yes, it's a potential thing, but at this point, that's where we are with Reigns.



No. That's called "story structure". Good guys help good guys. Bad guys help bad guys when it suits them, then stab them in the back when it doesn't. And ten year olds? Dude. Tolkien, Lucas, King, Martin, and a whole host of other writers much better than you get my point. I promise.



Then you should have posted it as a general comment, not connected to a post about the match that just occurred. Clarity is your friend.

wk

Okay, first off, you need to lay off the attack on my writing because you obviously aren't any better. You used not on an ad hominem attack but an appeal to authority. Once you learn to argue without fallacies, then you can make a comment on my writing.

Story structure? Good guys help good guys whenevr they can? Like I said, 10 year old's wrestling logic. In wrestling, the behind the scenes stuff plays into the story lines a lot. And regardless of your "Yay Good guys" attitude, you obviously have not watched much wrestling in your life if you honestly believe this to be the case.

And I'll post anything I want in any thread directed in any way I want to. If you don't like the way I post, don't read it. The fact is, you jumped on that statement because you think you have some intellectual authority in this case, and you don't

 

[Wacokid27]

To paraphrase SCSA, "High comedy up in this bitch!"

wk

 

[Roadster]

So when do we start seeing ring post matches? Or maybe exposed turnbuckle matches?

at RTR (Ring Posts, Turnbuckles and Ropes) PPV.

 

[Snowman1]

If you two could lay off the personal attacks this could be one hell of a debate.

Do agree with Fox though that it's best to have characters have their own motivations besides "Good guys!", but sometimes I guess it's unavoidable

 

[Jacob Fox]

I question this to an extent, since to the crowds Cena is hardly as well-respected as Han Solo, Gandalf, Batman, etc. Not sure if running Reigns out to save Cena is the best idea from a reaction standpoint.

If he saved Ambrose the argument would be much different lol

That was exactly my point, thank you. It's nice to know someone can read.

 

[Trip in the Head]

If you two could lay off the personal attacks this could be one hell of a debate.

Do agree with Fox though that it's best to have characters have their own motivations besides "Good guys!", but sometimes I guess it's unavoidable

The good guys/bad guys angle has always kind of been there though. WWE standard almost

 

[Snowman1]

Nice to know Ryback's still killing jobbers.

Ironic that this is a chairs match since everyone left theirs to go to concessions

 

[Wacokid27]

It is better to have personal, direct motivations for most storylines, but it's a crapshoot when someone's returning from an absence.

Everybody knew Reigns was coming back and it became a situation where bringing him back could serve a number of purposes. In this case, bringing him back as a "sheriff" (think Austin coming out to save Stephanie...no real justification in-character, except that he was a good guy "doing the right thing", which was my point here all along).

wk

 

[Trip in the Head]

Nice reference

 

[Wacokid27]

I try.

wk

 

[Trip in the Head]

I bet on swagger winning for the wow factor. Wonder if it will pay off? Probably not but if it does I'll mark out for sure lol

 

[Snowman1]

Asked my best friend who's a huge Reigns mark, and he thought the return was wonderful, so I guess that kinda rationalizes it. And he hates Cena as much as we do.

Where is Zeb?

 

[Jacob Fox]

If you honestly think "story structure" has anything to do with consistency, than you need to take some new writing classes. I think the concept you are looking for is consistency.

You can invoke famous writers until the cows come home. In case you haven't noticed, I am not arguing with them. I am arguing with you. Since you have no argument, you are invoking appeals to authority in order to somehow take down my argument, which is nonsensical. Perhaps if you, Waco, actually had a valid point to make, you could make it without your childish antics of names calling, deflecting the argument and my favorite, marking my posts as "funny" because you think that somehow demeans my post or upsets me.

I'm a psychologist. I deal with little children like you all the time. Your little schoolyard antics do nothing but showcase what an idiot you are so keep them up. If you had a valid argument, you wouldn't have to use them so obviously that's not the case.

 

[Trip in the Head]

Asked my best friend who's a huge Reigns mark, and he thought the return was wonderful, so I guess that kinda rationalizes it. And he hates Cena as much as we do.

Where is Zeb?

Rusev broke his leg

 

[brooke phillips]

zeb has a broken leg by russav