WWE Raw LIVE Discussion 9/10/12

[Sabretooth]

This promo just reinforced the ideology the Cena is the Super Champion. Only way that was a good promo is if you agree Cena is the only one qualified to be champion for all time.

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No but Cena made himself the favorite not by bitching and telling people he's the best, by doing it. Punk says he's the best even though he hasn't been in the main event.

 

[Smart Marx]

No but Cena made himself the favorite not by bitching and telling people he's the best, by doing it. Punk says he's the best even though he hasn't been in the main event.

So you agree with Cena? Fuck off. I stand by my statement that if Cena wins the title I'm done with WWE. This would be even worse than Hardy winning the BFG series.

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[Sabretooth]

So you agree with Cena? Fuck off. I stand by my statement that if Cena wins the title I'm done with WWE. This would be even worse than Hardy winning the BFG series.

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Yeah I agree with him which is why I want punk to win. I want to be proved wrong

 

[Smart Marx]

Yeah I agree with him which is why I want punk to win. I want to be proved wrong

You make no sense. At least we agree Cena needs to be proved wrong.

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[Sabretooth]

You make no sense. At least we agree Cena needs to be proved wrong.

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What Cena says is true. So I want to see him proved wrong

 

[Sabretooth]

Thank god Jerry is ok.

 

[detroitKG]

I'm just sick of Punk vs Cena personally..Cena's promos anymore just piss me off because he's the biggest hypocrite of them all...Nothing against the guy personally I'm sure he's a great guy IRL, but his character is garbage as well as his talent as a professional wrestler. At least when he had a GIMMICK as the Dr. of Thuganomics he was interesting..Now he has to have legends backing him to TRY and keep him interesting and relevant to us who aren't under the age of 10...sigh this is why WWE blows.

 

[Smart Marx]

What Cena says is true. So I want to see him proved wrong

What Cena says is not true. It's the bookers who choose to worship Cena that keeps Punk out of the main event. Rewarding Cena for this would be the ultimate form of disrespect.

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[Smart Marx]

I'm just sick of Punk vs Cena personally..Cena's promos anymore just piss me off because he's the biggest hypocrite of them all...Nothing against the guy personally I'm sure he's a great guy IRL, but his character is garbage as well as his talent as a professional wrestler. At least when he had a GIMMICK as the Dr. of Thuganomics he was interesting..Now he has to have legends backing him to TRY and keep him interesting and relevant to us who aren't under the age of 10...sigh this is why WWE blows.

:this:

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[Sabretooth]

What Cena says is not true. It's the bookers who choose to worship Cena that keeps Punk out of the main event. Rewarding Cena for this would be the ultimate form of disrespect.

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Well in kayfabe he's true

 

[Sabretooth]

I'm just sick of Punk vs Cena personally..Cena's promos anymore just piss me off because he's the biggest hypocrite of them all...Nothing against the guy personally I'm sure he's a great guy IRL, but his character is garbage as well as his talent as a professional wrestler. At least when he had a GIMMICK as the Dr. of Thuganomics he was interesting..Now he has to have legends backing him to TRY and keep him interesting and relevant to us who aren't under the age of 10...sigh this is why WWE blows.

Jesus fucking Christ, he's not a bad wrestler. He can go in the ring

 

[The Viper]

TBH, when he was The Dr. of Thuganomics, he was absolutely horrible in the ring. Yes, his gimmick was a 1000x more entertaining than his current "gimmick" but he's much better in the ring now than he was all those years ago.

 

[Smart Marx]

TBH, when he was The Dr. of Thuganomics, he was absolutely horrible in the ring. Yes, his gimmick was a 1000x more entertaining than his current "gimmick" but he's much better in the ring now than he was all those years ago.

I'd have to disagree with you to the 1000th%.

He worked a much better match in 2002/3. He fell into a routine once WWE started making a big deal about him.

 

[The Viper]

I'd have to disagree with you to the 1000th%.

He worked a much better match in 2002/3. He fell into a routine once WWE started making a big deal about him.

Whaaaatttt? I'm surprised. Looking back at his matches in 2003, 2004, I thought he was dreadful. Very awkward. Didn't seem to click with any of his opponents. Never had a MOTNC, IMO. Now he's incredibly capable of having a really good to great match. He's shown that over the past couple of years.

 

[Smart Marx]

Whaaaatttt? I'm surprised. Looking back at his matches in 2003, 2004, I thought he was dreadful. Very awkward. Didn't seem to click with any of his opponents. Never had a MOTNC, IMO. Now he's incredibly capable of having a really good to great match. He's shown that over the past couple of years.

I don't see it. I've only seen one match I'd legit say was a good/great match and that was against CM Punk. And honestly I'd say that 80% Punk.

Even in 2002/2003 I wouldn't say he could be a MOTN guy but his work ethic was much higher. Now a days his routine is get beat up for most of the match then pull a Hogan with a hulk up and do the EXACT formula every time. Punch, punch, kick, clothesline, duck, ropes, shoulder block, shoulder block, Prototype side slam, 5 knuckle shuffle, FU if reversed STFU. Rinse and repeat if there's no finish.

Cena literally works the same match week in and week out.