What if: a homosexual character in the WWE?

  • Welcome to "The New" Wrestling Smarks Forum!

    I see that you are not currently registered on our forum. It only takes a second, and you can even login with your Facebook! If you would like to register now, pease click here: Register

    Once registered please introduce yourself in our introduction thread which can be found here: Introduction Board


Brock Lesnar

Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2010
Messages
388
Reaction score
23
Points
18
Could we get away with having a wrestler be gay without it being a "thing" now? Have we come far enough?

I feel like even Cena's gay jokes would just fall flat if the guy was openly gay, and the younger WWE fans would probably just accept it as part of who he is.

If WWE wanted to make a guy the biggest name and heel in the business, they would have a homosexual man come out with his boyfriend, without even mentioning anything is wrong with being gay or focus on the fact that he is gay, and have him be a complete dick to everyone. News websites everywhere would gobble this up, create huge press for the WWE. Any press is good press.

I feel I must reiterate. This top star, lets say they debut Fandango like this, would be in the main event scene, have a boyfriend, be a complete dick. He would cry foul over everything that went wrong for him because of prejudice to him and his boyfriend. Faces would time and time again tell him that they don't care who the hell he's dating, that it has nothing to do with it. People would love to hate this guy but he would be considered a huge deal because of his interesting persona. The buzz created around it would land everywhere, but they couldn't get in trouble because there would be no homophobic remarks, Jerry and Cole would constantly harp on the fact that they hate this guy not because of his sexuality but because he's a complete dick.

I have a feeling he'd be the top heel in the whole company and win multiple world titles just because of the buzz around the balls it took to do this.

Pat Patterson is gay and one of the most well respected men in the company. I think WWE will have an openly homosexual superstar soon. Statistically, some of the guys in the locker room are homosexuals - but that doesn't mean a superstar with a homosexual gimmick necessarily has to be gay in their personal life.
 
Joined
Dec 6, 2010
Messages
757
Reaction score
8
Points
18
Location
India
Favorite Wrestler
chrisjericho
Favorite Wrestler
eddieguerrero
Favorite Wrestler
randyorton
Favorite Wrestler
cmpunk
Favorite Wrestler
evolution
Favorite Wrestler
brocklesnar
I think Damien Sandow is pretty close to being that, weird choice of tights and everything. (btw I thought Fandango was supposed to be some kind of dancer.)

I don't think WWE going with something that radical. I saw the Swagger and Zeb alliance and that in itself is probably going to cause some dubious segments with say, Alberto Del Rio or Antonio Cesaro, Khali etc. (i.e Non-white people who are not technically American.) This is just way out there.

Even if WWE went for it, would a heterosexual man in reality, accept the role of a homosexual WWE superstar, given how people make fun of the industry for multiple reasons as is.
 

Chriss

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 7, 2011
Messages
3,167
Reaction score
50
Points
48
Location
Vagina Hills
Favorite Wrestler
austinaries2
Favorite Wrestler
danielbryan2
To me this doesn't sound good at all. You can have the most random shit pop up on the WWE product but a homosexual character is a little bit over the edge if you ask me. I would hate the character even if it'd be presented by a good wrestler because that's just what I hate about some gay people in real life. I don't have anything against gay people that are happy the way the are but I hate those people that tell you they're gay and the first thing that they say even before you can react is "do you have a problem with it? Because if you do I don't care blah, blah, blah." Or those that say it a million times and are extremely proud of it. Today it's nothing to be ashamed of so there's no need to pretend it's 1942 and scream "gay rights! gay rights!" everywhere. And I feel that this character would be just like that, mentioning the fact he's gay every two minutes and stuff like that. Gay superstars out of the ring? No problem (Because that's how you know a man's smart even though he's gay. He's gay but he doesn't brag about it everywhere he goes). Superstar that is not gay but needs to "play" a gay character? FUCK NO.
 

Dale

Super Moderator
Joined
Dec 17, 2010
Messages
33,170
Reaction score
22,251
Points
118
Location
England
Favorite Wrestler
ui9LmS7
Favorite Wrestler
Y06mUrE
Favorite Wrestler
EtPxwR9
Favorite Wrestler
eAVr0ua
Favorite Wrestler
GDgC9g9
Favorite Wrestler
zPa7dqi
I just think it's too risky for the WWE to attempt to try and do really. All it would take is just one slip of the tongue, one joke taken the wrong way or something and WWE would have all these organisations over their backs and the negativity surrounding it.
 

We Are Legion

║▌║█║▌||| ║▌║▌█ ║█║║▌||
Joined
Dec 3, 2010
Messages
4,452
Reaction score
92
Points
53
Location
Montreal, QC
Favorite Wrestler
stonecold2
Favorite Wrestler
ricflair
Favorite Wrestler
jbl2
Favorite Wrestler
randysavage
Favorite Wrestler
nwo
571794_o.gif


This guy seriously didn't help the cause at all.



Honestly, it wouldn't bother me and WWE has already treaded in these waters before with Goldust and it wasn't received in a very positive light either. I'm not sure how WWE could do this without it being scrutinized heavily by the wrestling community and further tarnishing the already questionable image of professional wrestling.

I don't think it's wrong for WWE to go there, but I really don't think we are quite there yet as a species to promote that sort of thing and not expect it to receive negative criticism from most fans. Even if we are talking about a subtle innuendo like a male manager that the male wrestler seems to have a sexual interest in despite the fact the wrestler and the manager aren't flaming homosexuals, I think it's still baiting a backlash in our modern society. I would love to live in a world where that's not the case, but unfortunately I don't think we're quite there yet.
 

Gimmick

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2012
Messages
1,361
Reaction score
58
Points
48
Location
Ireland
Favorite Wrestler
danielbryan2
Favorite Wrestler
hhh
I don't like the idea of that to be honest. If a wrestler is openly gay then that's absolutely fine by me, but to make an angle out of it? No way. WWE has been treading on a very fine line about homosexuality for years now. We've had Goldust, Rico, Billy & Chuck, and even some of Cena's more homophobic comments last year. To put it mildly, WWE has gotten it very wrong every time they brought it up.

As I said, an openly gay superstar would be fine, but making it into a storyline is just far too risky. Especially if it was a straight wrestler playing a gay wrestler.
 

WMD

Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2012
Messages
134
Reaction score
7
Points
8
Favorite Wrestler
brocklesnar2
Favorite Wrestler
sethrollins
Favorite Wrestler
albertodelrio2
Favorite Wrestler
braywyatt
Favorite Wrestler
undertaker2
Favorite Wrestler
kevinsteen
Sexuality should never be the thing that gets a superstar over, lol.
 

Defiant

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 8, 2010
Messages
2,599
Reaction score
83
Points
48
Age
33
Location
Sydney, Australia
Favorite Wrestler
thewhyats
Favorite Wrestler
jericho
Favorite Wrestler
deanambrose
Favorite Wrestler
danielbryan2
Favorite Wrestler
stonecold
Favorite Wrestler
ajlee
I wouldn't mind an openly gay superstar, even acknowledged in kayfabe. As long as WWE aren't overly flamboyant with it or have other wrestlers bringing it up in promos all the time, or commonly use it as a point of comedy. You know, just a normal, gay guy. A wrestler that just happens to be gay but no one really rags on him for it (unless if they wanna do some "overcoming adversity" angle).

Like others have said though, its probably just too risky to "attempt". The appeal of pro-wrestling is kind of a masculine thing in the first place, the very premise of wrestling reminds me of this 13 year old boy fantasy land where literally the only thing that matters is being able to fight better than everyone else.
 

Mick Donalds

Banned
Joined
Sep 19, 2012
Messages
855
Reaction score
10
Points
18
571794_o.gif


This guy seriously didn't help the cause at all.



Honestly, it wouldn't bother me and WWE has already treaded in these waters before with Goldust and it wasn't received in a very positive light either. I'm not sure how WWE could do this without it being scrutinized heavily by the wrestling community and further tarnishing the already questionable image of professional wrestling.

.

Despite the negativity, It was one of the most over characters in wrestling history. Goldust had so much heat, Big E Langston wishes he could time travel back to 1997 and steal some of it for today.
 

Mick Donalds

Banned
Joined
Sep 19, 2012
Messages
855
Reaction score
10
Points
18
You guys are worried about a whole lot of nothing.

Did we forget the Necrophilia angle? LOD Hawk's "suicide" angle? Austin vs Pillman "house shooting" angle?

There's nothing too taboo for the WWE nowadays.
 

Chris

Dreams are Endless
Joined
Dec 23, 2011
Messages
383,782
Reaction score
155,578
Points
128
Age
28
Location
Texas
Favorite Wrestler
tLCb5kv
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
ArsUxsj
Favorite Wrestler
mrperfect2
Favorite Wrestler
eelOIL6
Favorite Wrestler
BryanDanielson1
Favorite Sports Team
sfa
Favorite Sports Team
dallascowboys
Favorite Sports Team
sanantoniospurs
Favorite Sports Team
texasrangers
It'd be risky for WWE because if it wasn't an uber-face, then the gay and lesbian alliances would be all pissed complaining that gays are painted in a negative light. That didn't stop WWE with Billy and Chuck though, but it seems like they care more about others opinions now than then.
 

SAL

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 3, 2010
Messages
3,826
Reaction score
64
Points
48
Location
BOSTON
I think WWE could do it, sure. It's not a matter of being taboo. My problem with it is that wrestling characters by nature are reduced to a few dominant traits. Austin: tough redneck. Kane: angry demon child. Orton: unstable, pantsless. John Cena: hustle/loyalty/respect/etc. Wrestlers don't get a lot of time on screen and they have to get a character over. In that environment, I don't see how WWE would develop a gay character without hammering the shit out of it. If people have to keep saying "it doesn't matter that you're gay" or whatever, then why make that one of the few things we get to know about the character? I don't trust WWE to do this without insulting either the LGBT community or my intelligence.

But Goldust was a fucking terrific character, that needs to be said. He never said he was gay, but everyone assumed it. Then all of a sudden he has a super-hot female valet. That was well played.
 

Crippler

Prove me wrong
Joined
Dec 3, 2010
Messages
56,353
Reaction score
9,503
Points
115
Location
Hell's Club
Favorite Wrestler
chrisbenoit2
Just bring in Orlando Jordan, he had a great run doing this in TNA.
 

Andrew

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 3, 2010
Messages
18,926
Reaction score
364
Points
83
Age
36
Location
Geelong, Australia
Favorite Wrestler
chrisbenoit2
Favorite Wrestler
princedevitt
Favorite Wrestler
sethrollins
Favorite Wrestler
ajstyles2
Favorite Wrestler
johncena2
Favorite Wrestler
ricochet
Orlando Jordan lives in Melbourne, Australia and helps run a fed known as AAW (worst fed in Australia)
 

Nerotheory

Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2013
Messages
45
Reaction score
1
Points
8
Location
In a Trailor
Actually Jordan lives in Louisiana and runs Wildkat Wrestling where he also trains people. As far as a gay gimmick in wrestling if done right could be good. Plus you would be surprised by how many wrestlers are really gay.