What do you believe in?

[Senhor Perfect]

I believe in miracles! Where you from, you sexy thang?

 

[Nano]

I'm the kind of people who thinks that we actually look for religions and we don't realize that life's the real religion, the way we pick and the way we follow during years, that's what I believe in

 

[Roi]

#Crayluminati

 

[Meshuggah]

I'm the kind of people who thinks that we actually look for religions and we don't realize that life's the real religion, the way we pick and the way we follow during years, that's what I believe in

That's fine. Are there any open minded people on the forum who would like to contribute to the conversation?

People can believe what they want to believe. I believe in mostly alien life. Why? Because like said before by a researcher, the universe is too big to grasp concept. We only know what is possible and impossible within our reach, which, is not very far.

We know of earth, and other planets close to earth, that's it. We don't know what is beyond the cosmos, what type of life beings exist out there, or what they are capable of doing. UFO sightings were reported in the prehistoric ages, long before religion OR science was even thought of. UFO sighting ARE real, there are real photos and REAL video of UFO sightings, whether or not little grey people control them, is up to us to think about. But there is proof of UFO's, or do you not believe your own eyes? You believe it when you see it, correct? Yet, even when we see it, we hate to grasp that it could exist. That is how the human mind works, we like to think we are right and know all about life and the universe, yet, we only know very little. We only know very little of earth as well. Which shows just how naive we as humans are. Which, is why I like to keep an open mind about everything.

You don't report seeing something in the sky for millions of years, and it not be true. There were no flying technology in the egyptian and prehistoric ages, so how would they carve these drawings if they didn't know what they looked like? No one knew what a UFO or abduction was in the prehistoric ages, yet, their still able to draw UFO's abducting people? You say they just make this stuff up? Come on now...

Toss religion aside for a little while, that wasn't my whole point on this, i'm talking about the extraterrestrial, other life beyond our reach. It's kind of hard to discuss this with people who put no effort into thinking about life as a whole, and what could or couldn't exist. Come on guys, back your theories up, make this a little more fun for me.

 

[Nano]

That's fine. Are there any open minded people on the forum who would like to contribute to the conversation?

People can believe what they want to believe. I believe in mostly alien life. Why? Because like said before by a researcher, the universe is too big to grasp concept. We only know what is possible and impossible within our reach, which, is not very far.

We know of earth, and other planets close to earth, that's it. We don't know what is beyond the cosmos, what type of life beings exist out there, or what they are capable of doing. UFO sightings were reported in the prehistoric ages, long before religion OR science was even thought of. UFO sighting ARE real, there are real photos and REAL video of UFO sightings, whether or not little grey people control them, is up to us to think about. But there is proof of UFO's, or do you not believe your own eyes? You believe it when you see it, correct? Yet, even when we see it, we hate to grasp that it could exist. That is how the human mind works, we like to think we are right and know all about life and the universe, yet, we only know very little. We only know very little of earth as well. Which shows just how naive we as humans are. Which, is why I like to keep an open mind about everything.

You don't report seeing something in the sky for millions of years, and it not be true. There were no flying technology in the egyptian and prehistoric ages, so how would they carve these drawings if they didn't know what they looked like? No one knew what a UFO or abduction was in the prehistoric ages, yet, their still able to draw UFO's abducting people? You say they just make this stuff up? Come on now...

Toss religion aside for a little while, that wasn't my whole point on this, i'm talking about the extraterrestrial, other life beyond our reach. It's kind of hard to discuss this with people who put no effort into thinking about life as a whole, and what could or couldn't exist. Come on guys, back your theories up, make this a little more fun for me.

Ok, about the alien life, I won't discuss they exist but I won't sure they don't exist because the truth is that I don't know if they do or not

 

[Meshuggah]

Ok, about the alien life, I won't discuss they exist but I won't sure they don't exist because the truth is that I don't know if they do or not

At least you keep an open mind. I won't say for sure whether there are or aren't alien life, it's just a very likely possibility. Even if it isn't little grey people, but just another species of life out there, in the universe. Whether they have visited us or not...well, the UFO's are as close to proof as were currently going to get.

I'm not saying they do exist, but i'm not going to sit here and say they don't and accuse myself of being right, because frankly, I don't know either. I won't rule it out, basically.

 

[Nano]

At least you keep an open mind. I won't say for sure whether there are or aren't alien life, it's just a very likely possibility. Even if it isn't little grey people, but just another species of life out there, in the universe. Whether they have visited us or not...well, the UFO's are as close to proof as were currently going to get.

I'm not saying they do exist, but i'm not going to sit here and say they don't and accuse myself of being right, because frankly, I don't know either. I won't rule it out, basically.

I'd like to see aliens who look like the Avatar aliens :

 

[Meshuggah]

I'd like to see aliens who look like the Avatar aliens :

Lmao. Mostly everyone who experiences alien contact explains it the same. Little grey people, big eyes, no eyebrows or eyelashes(may I remind you that these were described looking this way long before hollywood took over and smashed it to the ground), cold, a sulfur like smell, and webbed feet.

Though, back in the olden days, there was a tribe that said they looked like giant men with big beards. Anything is possible, again.

I was watching a doc where an alien researcher said this: "Alien or other life exists out there, somewhere, and they have visited us. It's hard to think like this now, simply because hollywood took what was a serious issue, and embarrassed it. It's hard for us to think these things exist when you look at movies like ET, or encounters of the third kind. But I, myself, still believe they exist, hollywood won't change that for me. UFO sightings were long before Hollywood was around."

Also, in the year, what was it...1950's? 50 THOUSAND people, all at the same time, at the same place, saw a flying object in the sky, going 2000+ miles an hour, and swooping in perfect 360% angles. I'm sorry, but are all those people on drugs? Or, like how some of you put it, acid? Were they all just imagining things? Technology was not that advanced in the 50's, yet, they saw it with their own eyes. 50 THOUSAND people may I remind you. That has to count for something.

Also, another thing, monks believed shrooms were a gateway into another dimension. What do you guys think? I know you think this is crazy, but just think about it. Again, how little do we know of this world and the universe?

Anyway, some say that our dimension is intertwined with other dimensions, and that earth is supposedly the only planet with living organisms on it, but a bunch of different dimensions exist within the planet. Some beings can come through to our dimension from theirs, which would explain spirits and aliens. But, thats just some theory another man said, I don't personally believe it myself, however, again, I won't rule it out.

 

[seabs]

The major problem with this kind of thread is you can't debate them, it's literally I believe X and here are some reasons why. Then another person comes in and say blah blah blah and Z, you can't find a flaw in X or Z to properly debate it as you'll get is "oh that's what I believe." It's like debating religion, the only thing that's makes one person believe and the other not is trust in the theory. If you want to believe something you'll see all the puzzle pieces fall into your lap and they'll all fit perfectly.

 

[arianna]

I BELIEVE IN GOD AND I'M A CHRISTIAN. :bury:

 

[Meshuggah]

The major problem with this kind of thread is you can't debate them, it's literally I believe X and here are some reasons why. Then another person comes in and say blah blah blah and Z, you can't find a flaw in X or Z to properly debate it as you'll get is "oh that's what I believe." It's like debating religion, the only thing that's makes one person believe and the other not is trust in the theory. If you want to believe something you'll see all the puzzle pieces fall into your lap and they'll all fit perfectly.

"There is more proof of alien life, than there is of God"

There is more reasonable reasons to believe in alien life than there is in god. We can see other planets. We can see stars, and the universe. We know its there. Now, we know the universe is vast, correct? So what sounds more reasonable. Another life species in the universe, or some entity up in the heavens that created everything?

They say alien life can communicate with us telepathically, so, when someone hears a voice in their head, clear as day, and says its god, is it not just aliens, acting as god? Alien life and religion tie in very close, I agree, some say Aliens ARE god, they created us and put here. Others say alien life is associated with lucifer, and sent here to scare us into his way of thinking, and away from god. Which, would explain probing and such.

Alien life is said to be very interested in human sexuality, which is why they would do experiments on us. They say, when you see a UFO, it is most likely because they are on there way to, or from, an abduction of a human male/female, to do experiments on them. When you see a UFO stay still in the sky, it is usually because they are currently doing the experiment with the human body, as we see them in the sky.

But anyway, I suppose your right. I, personally believe that alien life is associated with all things, both religious, and scientific, therefore, for somebody to believe in religion, you would have to assume the possibility to alien life, somewhere, out there in the universe. So really, were all debating on the same subject. But is that such a bad thing? To debate on what we believe in as far as the start of humanity goes?

 

[seabs]

There is no proof of either, there is speculation that claims to prove it's so or not. If it's proof there is no need for interpretation, the planets exist and we can see them so we have proof. Now because there are planets there must be other life forms? That's a bold accusation, I'll throw up a quick example because I'm bored.

This is a football, correct? It's proven without a doubt it's a football. (It's technically a picture of one but take it as the object not the image if you will please)

Now because this football exists I'll now say it's covered with tiny robots which bounce up and down whilst singing the Finnish national anthem. I mean the ball is big enough to justify that, right? It's more reasonable than say a miniature Zeus is firing lightning bolts out of it to make the black markings isn't it? Just because something is more reasonable than another won't make it factual.

It's too random ideas thrown together with false justification, I've taken a fact and branched it off into my own theory.

The biggest problem with the rest of your post is we're required to assume an alien life form exists, I can't debate any of your aspects as I don't believe in the theory enough to fully evaluate my arguments.

I'm not a philosophical person however but your argument seems sadly flawed, once again it ties in with the belief theory I mentioned earlier.

 

[Meshuggah]

There is no proof of either, there is speculation that claims to prove it's so or not. If it's proof there is no need for interpretation, the planets exist and we can see them so we have proof. Now because there are planets there must be other life forms? That's a bold accusation, I'll throw up a quick example because I'm bored.

This is a football, correct? It's proven without a doubt it's a football. (It's technically a picture of one but take it as the object not the image if you will please)

Now because this football exists I'll now say it's covered with tiny robots which bounce up and down whilst singing the Finnish national anthem. I mean the ball is big enough to justify that, right? It's reasonable than say a miniature Zeus is firing lightning bolts out of it to make the black markings isn't it? Just because something is more reasonable than another won't make it factual.

It's too random ideas thrown together with false justification, I've taken a fact and branched it off into my own theory.

The biggest problem with the rest of your post is we're required to assume an alien life form exists, I can't debate any of your aspects as I don't believe in the theory enough to fully evaluate my arguments.

I'm not a philosophical person however but your argument seems sadly flawed, once again it ties in with the belief theory I mentioned earlier.

Yes, thats a football, anyway, back on subject. UFO's are real, thats more proof of alien life than we have of, say, god. Dinosaurs, do you believe in them? Bones show proof, or some form of proof of their existance. We weren't there, we don't know if dinosaurs actually exist, buy we have bones that provide more proof than any religious man can prove for god.

Same with alien life, UFO sightings have been caught on tape, and photo. It may not be proof of alien existance, but its the best proof we got, it is some physical proof. Now, take this in mind, carvings, right? Thousands and thousands of years ago people carved into stone(because they didn't have video cameras back then :rockwhat were, UFO's, some even abducting or killing people. Tribes report them, cavemen reported them, egyptians reported. These carvings, from thousands of years ago, look the exact same as what people report seeing today. So, how do you explain that? No one can, I am not saying my belief is better than anyone else's, and, if I did, I apologize for that misunderstanding. However, all I am saying, is that there are more proof of alien or other life existance our there, rather than there being a god. "Other planets don't mean other life"? So, you think we are the only life forms in all of the galaxy? Come on now...be a little bit more real here, thats just close minded and naive to say.

Do we know for sure? No, but if we were the ONLY life forms, in ALL of the universe, on this ONE planet, then we would truly be a miracle.

 

[seabs]

Also since this seems to be getting a bit more philosophical I'll expect Crayo before too long.

 

[Meshuggah]

Also since this seems to be getting a bit more philosophical I'll expect Crayo before too long.

Because he likes that type of stuff, or he doesn't?

Edit: Im sorry, but be real...a football does not have tiny robots on it, it's a man made object. The Universe, however, is not. The Universe was here before humanity. Now your just using silly theories to make my theory unjustified.